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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:31 pm 
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Ok like the subject suggests I am struggling with my follow up game, I can walk into any club or bar and n-close or k-close quite a few HB7's and above, I am just as lethal with daygame. I go through all the motions; good opener, great kino, IOI's and a pretty great all round routine. The trouble starts after the initial approach.

I still seem to be reverting back to AFC mode as soon as I call or text a target. Like with this HB8 I met and played the 5 question game with anyway she lost so she gave me her bible "I am the devil" for 2 days and her number, after 2 days she came to my room to pickup her bible and I totally bombed out. She noticed my guitar and keyboard and was impressed but there was very little kino or eye contact at all, I also made it worse when she was leaving and I asked her for a hug, like an AFC and during the hug I asked her for a kiss to which she said NO. I crashed and burned spectacularly.

So gurus, masters, pua's I ask for your advice today. What can I do to increase my follow up game?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:41 pm 
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Just keep the same attitude you have during the approach/pick up. Also don't ask, just do, if she doesn't want it she'll let you know but will probably appreciate your boldness if your inner game is strong and you can shrug off her rejection like you don't care (which you really shouldn't care about, btw).

Man if you play keyboard and guitar the opportunities for kino and eye contact are endless! Endless! Play her a song! Teach her a song! Let her sit next to you so she you can teach her! Take her hands and place them! etc.

Don't worry too much about your "game". Just act like you act in approach, which is apparently with confidence and your own style as you are closing constantly, it is what got her interested in the first place.

Might also be something to do with sexual escalation and tension, might want to read up on that and see if you lack in that department.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:59 pm 
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i followed your advice and boy was it spot on, I got a different HB to come over to my place after a few texts. There was a lot more kino and eye contact, I also used social proofs and she hugged me that's when the fun started.

I used Style's neck-biting routine and she lost it, she even ripped my shirt open. the fact that I didn't want to f-close made her even more horny, I was meeting another HB who invited me to the theater, so I was pressed for time. Her boyfriend actually had episodes of the pick up artist on his laptop I felt evil but I have a choice of whether to f-close or not so it's a bit of a power trip.

I'll post a field report on the theater experience.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:43 pm 
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Ok the HB that invited me to the theater decided to bring her bf, which was perfect. I absolutely dominated the evening and even encouraged the bf to act more alpha. After the show we had shots and martinis for which i picked up the bill. Later we were joined by another group that consisted of 2 guys and 1 girl, she was a lot of fun and I naturally used the HB and her bf as social proof. I even started gaming the waiter.

After the drinking we went to crash at some rich old guy's place and since the HB had betrayed me by bringing her bf with her I felt I had to flex my newfound PUA muscles. When we went to the train station to catch a train back to joburg we saw a scantily clad HB10 sitting on a bench by herself. Cue 3 second rule, I attacked, I n-closed and have already arranged a date with her. So eat it! The bf and everybody in the group was impressed except the original HB who pretended like it never happened, her bf said I had balls of steel.

I have arranged to meet the HB that refused to kiss me tomorrow, we exchanged texts after that incident and I was able to redeem myself, she eventually told me she had a bf and I ran a beautiful bf destroyer on her. She was shocked and impressed and when I called her to confirm the date I made jokes about her wanting to get me into bed. So this time I am prepared!

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