So one of my goals in life is to date women in Western European countries. Unfortunately or fortunately, I ALWAYS do my research before I do anything else, I want to know what I am up against.

Apparently, unlike us Americans, I have found that the French or the Italians or Germans or Spaniards or Swedes are SIGNIFICANTLY different. While here in the US I have improved my game enough to the point that I can approach any woman, I have heard from one of my British friends online that if I try that in Italy I may get ATTACKED if they do not know me.

I have also heard that people in Western Europe generally hate "outsiders". Being that I do not look European (im an american of indian descent) and that I am not European by nationality, I guess that is somehow two strikes.

I need YOUR HELP to help me get my thoughts together. How would you approach this situation if you were me?

I am going to Sweden soon.

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I am interested in the replies as well, as a Caribbean person of Indian decent. I have now started studying in Manchester and it seems the British girls stick to the british guys.

dude, its the UK, you'll be alright, I heard they are open minded

I am talking about continental europe like france and germany and italy

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Hey dude,

It's not so much the girls who are the problem, but the AMOG douchebag guys who don't like foreign guys coming in and taking their girls. If you can deal with the douchebags without sucking up to them (i.e. being Beta) then you're half-way there.

I just got back from Spain and I found the girls there are quite easy to open (avoid mixed groups with guys if you can). I had the most success opening by approaching groups of girls and asking them if they speak English. They usually get embarrassed and point to the girl who is best at English. Even if she is not your target, you can use her as a pivot to sarge the one you like and isolate. Avoid 2-sets for obvious reasons. Speak clearly and slowly (especially if you have a strong regional accent) and use simple opinion openers. I'm not really into routines, but if English is not their native language, they probably won't realise you're doing a routine.

This is me at a club in Spain with a 3-set, I used a simple "Is this the best club in town?" opinion opener and then went from there.


Swedish guys tend to be shy, so you have an advantage here. Read this article for some more tips on Swedish girls: http://uk.askmen.com/dating/love_tip_38 ... girls.html

Good luck bro.

AFC Hunter Foxe
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this is my forte ill just leave you with some points to consider.

- Strong body language is KEY when there is language barriers... if you cant say it you can still portray it.

- People in europe KNOW how to party. Be prepared to stay out all night til the early hours of the morning. Great fun! You need to be willing to go with the flow, be OPEN to new things and step out of your comfort zone if required.

- Just be friendly and tell them why youre travelling, (you want to see their beautiful country/ you love it here/ the women are beautiful) Theyre usually more than happy to take you under their wing and show you a good time if youre friendly and explain why youre so happy & excited to be there.

- I find theyre less fridgit. They usually will want to have sex with you, many on the first night, but if not they are pretty open to seeing you again on a date. (Less bitchy and stuck up than americans from what Ive found)

- Learn some of their language. Even just general greetings. 'Hello, My name is ____. how are you'. You dont have to go right off the bat with this it might seem a bit corny, but maybe somewhere at the beginning of the conversation. If you fuck it up they will probably enjoy it regardless and they can help you correct it! so the conversation begins already...

- The guys I met there arent the typical Jock, douchebags that do gym and think theyre better than everyone else. Theres plenty of skinny friendly guys, who have the hottest girlfriends you will ever see. (Italy may be an exception )

- Be interested and ask questions on the area / what should you do while you're there. They will be willing to help you! maybe even show you, or come with you.

- Teach them some of your own things. While its good to adapt to another country and enjoy all their ways of living, dont forget to offer them some of things you do back home that makes you different. Dont just take, give a little as well... This will make you more interesting than the other guys that theyre used to and they will enjoy being around you. You have something to offer that the guys there dont! Im Australian and simply talking about our way of life amazed them! Even just mentioning that we have kangaroos hopping through our backyard got them excited... We were giving girls surfing lessons in Greece and they loved us. We taught them how to play cricket. While they didnt like that as much haha, it was still a lot of fun. In return they might take you out to their favorite traditional bar, place to eat, teach you to salsa, whatever, its all a LOT of fun when people from different cultures come together. + the sex is a whole different experience Ill leave that for you to find out.

Enjoy man. Im really jealous of you and I wish I was back there.

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BULLSHIT! Girls are girls, they are all looking for an alpha man, some are harder and some easier. The only problems you can have are language and fake AMOGs.

Here in Barcelona and surroundings language is not a big deal, in the south Spain English is less common. The problem with AMOGs isn't really a big deal, but there are a extended group of young people (15-25 years) that are very possessive with girls. They act as alpha males, but recently, as I became more alpha, I have noticed that most of them are actually very insecure man that try to look "cool" to women. If they see some debility in you they will try to disqualify you making fun of it in front of women, but they don't use to be violent if you don't provoke them. Don't be afraid of them. But this is like 5% of guys, so most people is "normal" here.

If you have the opportunity come to Barcelona, here girls are usually open minded, and it is a beautiful city too.
NOTE: All about AMOGs here is my opinion based on observation, it is different in small villages.
good luck

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As Good As It Gets (1997)

Some Europeans absolutely love Native Americans. If you can play up that angle, I think you could definitely roll with a bit of rock star status.

I met a DJ once who had lived the life, and he said that in Spain girls were down to fuck. Even if they had boyfriends, they would still go home with him and everyone was cool with it.

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False, I don't know where he went, but here the concept of loyalty is almost the same as in USA, and as I said, a lot of men are very protective with women.
The difference is that here is not so usual to be in a serious relationship, within the young people there is a majority of Fuck buddies, so they aren't actually in a relationship. But girls with BF are loyal, I guarantee

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"When I first saw you, I thought you were handsome. Then, of course, you spoke."
As Good As It Gets (1997)

totally true, since you're american it will be impossible for you to meet foreigners.. IMPOSSIBLE!! they will attack you on site dude, and you better not try to talk to them, they don't know you, could be bad news bears for you if you do

also you're british buddy has your back, listen to him, he probably got attacked in italy cause he was trying to meet people (he was probably dodging fights the whole time he was there and couldn't even talk to one girl, he knows all the italians, he knows whats up, good lookin out)
it's true, and if you let girls know you are interested in them either verbally or through body language... that's strike three man, you're totally fucked, girls won't fuck you cause you're an outsider, they're all just racist and will stereotype you, every single last one of them, millions and millions of of prude violent racists, just stay inside and keep safe, if you approach women you'll be attacked and shunned,

it's just like how I couldn't get laid if I went to india cause everyone there is rascist, billions of them, all racist, even though I'm a tall good looking white guy, Indian's hate white guys, so I'm fucked, lets just stay safe together

cmon paramount man, just give these silly threads up, girls like guys, it's no secret, just go out, don't have bad intentions and try to have some fun and meet some girls, what could possibly go wrong if you're not doing anything wrong, just let go of all these irrational fears, you're just building insecurities based on stereotypes, let go and enjoy yourself man, find yourself a cute foreign girl and do it up

no matter where you go there will be people who show you love, and people who hate on you, just ignore the haters and focus on the positives instead of the negatives

A slightly different tract for the original question; how do you deal with opening in a country where you don't speak the language?

"Do you speak English?"

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"When I first saw you, I thought you were handsome. Then, of course, you spoke."
As Good As It Gets (1997)

I went to the Netherlands last year, and it was so awesome!
Not only the girls are very beautiful, but they're also very open minded and free with their sexuality..
The only problem is that not everyone are speaking English :/

It's completely false. Girls love knowing that they are not going to see you again. I have sometimes tried to tell girls I am foreigner and I speak in English to them (It's funny when they tell "secrets" in spanish as if I don't understand ). I did it to test some NLP patterns and some other stuff when I discovered how much they love foreigners. Now, oftentimes I do it for fun, and I promise you that it is easier for you to pick up them than for a local.

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"When I first saw you, I thought you were handsome. Then, of course, you spoke."
As Good As It Gets (1997)

Fair enough! What sort of success rate do you tend to get?

Yo guys i'm from holland and i can tell you, if you've got game you can get woman all over Europe... and it is not against the law the have sex with girls under 18