if all you are concerned with is talking to less girls, and sleeping with more, then probably sleeping with 1 girl out of 10 would be having a tight game, some guys literally do 100s of approaches before they even get laid, also the problem with your success rate question is success is subjective to the person's goals, this may also seem sort of paradoxical, but one guy could get 9/10 phone numbers and leave his sets with warm feelings of acceptance and sleep with 0 girls, using a more friendly safe approach, while another guy could get 1/10 phone numbers, piss off a bunch of girls and be harshly rejected by most and end up banging one girl because he was just being extremely aggressive and persistent and wouldn't leave until a harsh rejection or sex, it really depends on how you view success, is success banging a hottie?, is success banging the most women possible?, is success finding an awesome girlfriend who totally matches you and is fun to be around?, is success finding bi-sexual girls for threesomes?, is success talking to less women before sex happens?, is success spending the least amount of time between lays?,

there are ways to improve your ''success'' based on your goals, but it really depends on what those goals are, in terms of pickup, I like to think if you actually are enjoying picking up girls and meeting them and the process is actually fun for you instead of some big stressful task, then you are successful, especially if you're meeting girls you like regardless of how other people judge them, if you're happy, that's all that really matters, more so then are other people impressed by you, or how quickly and safely can you get this over with, that sort of thinking just puts a whole bunch of pressure on you to reach an outcome and then you won't actually be enjoying your time with these girls and they'll sense the desperation and neediness from a mile away, just focus on making your task fun, easy, and requiring as close to 0 effort on your part as possible, if 0 effort to you is trying to develop a perfect approach and hanging in there as long as possible girl after girl after girl and trying to improve the perfect approach and sleep with them the same day, then do it up, if 0 effort for you is just making a million approaches and shooting out your little 3 sentence routine and following up on the numbers you got for dates, then do it up, what ever you enjoy doing man, just make sure you get out there and get to work if you're still single and you're not making at least 1 approach a day, you are seriously wasting your time

I understand what you're saying about getting started also, starting daygame is very intimidating, especially if you are not used to stating intent or feel like it's weird to just talk to someone you don't know during the day but you will get used to it, just have to do it alot more, once you get over the idea that it's just talking to girls and most of them appreciate being appreciated, you can start to just relax, stop worrying about the outcome, and have some fun with it and develop your own game

wreckingball15
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:58 pm    Post subject:
This def won't work w ur avg chic. There's no comfort w it, this make you come off like a serial killer.

big.bird
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject:
I may be over thinking it, but does anyone else think 'cute" is overused in pickup?

if all you are concerned with is talking to less girls, and sleeping with more, then probably sleeping with 1 girl out of 10 would be having a tight game, some guys literally do 100s of approaches before they even get laid, also the problem with your success rate question is success is subjective to the person's goals, this may also seem sort of paradoxical, but one guy could get 9/10 phone numbers and leave his sets with warm feelings of acceptance and sleep with 0 girls, using a more friendly safe approach, while another guy could get 1/10 phone numbers, piss off a bunch of girls and be harshly rejected by most and end up banging one girl because he was just being extremely aggressive and persistent and wouldn't leave until a harsh rejection or sex, it really depends on how you view success, is success banging a hottie?, is success banging the most women possible?, is success finding an awesome girlfriend who totally matches you and is fun to be around?, is success finding bi-sexual girls for threesomes?, is success talking to less women before sex happens?, is success spending the least amount of time between lays?,

there are ways to improve your ''success'' based on your goals, but it really depends on what those goals are, in terms of pickup, I like to think if you actually are enjoying picking up girls and meeting them and the process is actually fun for you instead of some big stressful task, then you are successful, especially if you're meeting girls you like regardless of how other people judge them, if you're happy, that's all that really matters, more so then are other people impressed by you, or how quickly and safely can you get this over with, that sort of thinking just puts a whole bunch of pressure on you to reach an outcome and then you won't actually be enjoying your time with these girls and they'll sense the desperation and neediness from a mile away, just focus on making your task fun, easy, and requiring as close to 0 effort on your part as possible, if 0 effort to you is trying to develop a perfect approach and hanging in there as long as possible girl after girl after girl and trying to improve the perfect approach and sleep with them the same day, then do it up, if 0 effort for you is just making a million approaches and shooting out your little 3 sentence routine and following up on the numbers you got for dates, then do it up, what ever you enjoy doing man, just make sure you get out there and get to work if you're still single and you're not making at least 1 approach a day, you are seriously wasting your time

I understand what you're saying about getting started also, starting daygame is very intimidating, especially if you are not used to stating intent or feel like it's weird to just talk to someone you don't know during the day but you will get used to it, just have to do it alot more, once you get over the idea that it's just talking to girls and most of them appreciate being appreciated, you can start to just relax, stop worrying about the outcome, and have some fun with it and develop your own game

I may be over thinking it, but does anyone else think 'cute" is overused in pickup?

I'll try it when I get the chance. I gotta crash now was up late working on some shit.

Here is something I started out with for my daygame back in the day. I fall back on it every once in awhile when I am feeling too lazy to make rapport. Works decently.

Redsky's quick number close:

I started out just saying, "excuse me."

If they stopped then I would say, "I think you're cute, do you wanna get coffee sometime?"

If they said yes I would ask, "Ok, what's your number?"

Then I'd tell her my name("I'm -so and so-.") and get her's, along with the number.

If she said, " let me get yours." Then I would say, "I honestly think it's the guys responsibility to call the girl. If you're not interested then just tell me."

After I got it, I would say, "Alright, I gotta meet up with some friends but I'll hit you up later."

It works decently. It's pretty direct, short, simple and you sound like a gentleman.

The worst she can say is no.

Good luck.

Success rate depends on the person. Lots of factors, if you look like a good guy, or come off too cocky, if the girl's horny or attracted to you, If you look rugged or high class, how comfortable and confident you appear. lots of factors. Some days I get a number of almost every girl I approach and others I get maybe 1/3. It ranges between 1/3 and 1/2 I'd say. Maybe 2/3 on a good day, when your mojo is strong.

What if the girl is with a friend? Do u still use this approach? I just feel like the friend would get pissed and try to cockblock you. Lol

I understand what you're saying about getting started also, starting daygame is very intimidating, especially if you are not used to stating intent or feel like it's weird to just talk to someone you don't know during the day but you will get used to it, just have to do it alot more, once you get over the idea that it's just talking to girls and most of them appreciate being appreciated, you can start to just relax, stop worrying about the outcome, and have some fun with it and develop your own game

I tried this at a club tonight and got a make out with my second approach (HB8).

Me: Hey I like your dress
HB8: thanks
Me: where did you get it?
HB8: dunno
Me: you've had to much to drink! We're going to do a hand eye coordination test.
(I did a hand eye coordination routine here its a breaking rapport technique I learnt at an Adam Lyons bootcamp)
HB8: Giggles
Me: you wanna hug it out? lets hug it out!
Hug, make out number close.

(At least I think that was 30 seconds)