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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:44 am 
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I don't know what it is but I can't get anything going. I can open and start a convo but I can't continue and carry one on. I am a staunch realist and I'm honest. I know that women can't converse about topics I'm genuinely interested in so I don't know how to actually have a genuine conversation with them. I have no idea how to build attraction and rapport no matter how much I read. I just can't get into a groove with a female. There aren't any interesting girls out there for me. I see loads of girls that I know are uninteresting bimbos. I don't know what to do about myself to be friendly and converse about stuff they can be interested in. I just can't do it. I can't be fake. I think I'm lost and there is no game to cater to me. I'm not talking about closing. I just can't build rapport or attraction with a female. I don't think I can ever be helped.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:56 am 
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why don't you just talk about her, her interests try to get to know her more.. sometimes when i encounter myself talking to a girl alone i would talk about certain topics that would lead me to have a connection with her.
im in college im 22 i find alot of things interesting from video games to neurolenguistics.
so i direct the conversation towards one of the things we have in common...
i bet there are good amounts of girls that would love to talk about what you do, or what are you pasionate about.
you just need to build more attraction by coming up somewhat mysterious, playful and put into her head that you are an alpha male.. this basically would make her ask you about the things you do and you like...

i been there where all i said and the way i acted was fake...
but eventually i got to replace those fake stories with real ones.
and i grew confortable walking tall and relaxed all the time..

you gotta fake it till you make it.
or else you gonna keep getting the same results.

Don't say that you can't be helped. you already are sabotaging yourself saying those things.
everyone can learn anything wether is how to run game on girls or learn complex math
all you need its to go out of your confort zone in order to see what really works.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:44 am 
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I don't know how to change myself. I don't know what I have to become to succeed at this. I'm always a staunch realist. I have an extremely hard time connecting with women because I just never share any interests with them. None of them are into cars history sports video games or politics. Any of those subjects bring them down. So I don't know how to speak genuinely about anything else because I just don't care or know anything on other subjects of interest to them. I have a huge difficulty being fake. I just don't know what steps to take to change. I'm completely lost. I don't have nearly enough money to spare on flying myself out to a boot camp. Where do I begin?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:40 pm 
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Women like to talk about relationships and the unknown. Not Barack Obomney and Diablo III. I talked to this girl for 2 1/2 hours the other night on the phone. It was admittidly probably mostly her talking to me, but I was able to keep the convo going. I think I actually ended up going over to her crib afterwards and fucking her. That's how you build rapport and comfort and turn it into a fuck close.

Here's a trick I do. I pretty much find most women vapid and completely uninteresting. But I realize conversing with them is critical if I want to bang them. So get them talking about themselves. Just ask basic probing questions. "What do you do for fun?" Almost every dumb broad will say she likes to travel or something like that. This is where you get all excited and say something like "I LOVE New York City!!!" She'll be like "Me too!" and then yammer on about it for 45 minutes straight.

What you've done there is created a commonality and built rapport. You've also shown that you have personality because you became animated and excited during your conversation. And you only had to say a few words to do that. You can apply that strategy to any topic or with any woman. It will work.

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But there is a fine line between being the rapport building common ground guy and being just the regular intervewer guy. You know? There's so much to think about. No matter how much i read and read, when it comes time to sarge, everything is forgotten and I hit a wall shortly into the conversation. I dont know how to go from opener and inital joking to rapport building and atraction building. I cant naturally do these things. I always end up trying to think and think what next, what next, is this working?

Maybe i'm not learning the right way. I cant pinpoint what im doing wrong. I think i'd do better if i had someone with me helping me out like a bootcamp but they are collosally expensive. I could never afford them. Not in the near future.

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You're too "in your head" about the whole thing. You're obviously a cerebral guy, but you can't overthink it too much. You need to relax a little and not worry about saying everything just right. Maybe just slow down a bit and let things develop naturally.

If I met you in person, would you be able to talk to me for ten minutes and keep the conversation going? That's all you have to do at first, just small talk them. That will build rapport. Then hopefully the natural escalation into kino and attraction building will flow from there.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:22 pm 
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you need need to visually learn.. not everything can be done just reading...
watch youtube, id seen some of the videos from people that are in this forum and mimick the way they lead a conversation.
this will help you more than just reading..

use some nlp to change you mindset. seems like your to hard on yourself..

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:27 pm 
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you're thinking to hard about the conversation and getting specific girls,

instead of focusing on the ''right thing'' or what you are saying, or doing that ''right thing''

focus on how you feel, if you feel good, by default the person you are talking to will start to feel good, after you are getting the vibe that things are going well, take note of the compliance you are seeing, and try to make out with the girl, and see if she is available logistically to move to a location conducive to sex happening

less thinking about what to say, more focus on the girl in front of you, how to get her horny, and how to get her to a spot for sex to happen, if the location is a no go, get her number and focus on the good time and getting to know her as a person so she knows you (not on attraction, just on the ''rapport'') if you and her are both having fun and she understands you have sexual interest in her and is in a good mood, the ''attraction'' is taken care of, you just have to use an invite out or her number as a bridge to create the logistics, then sleep with her before you do something to turn her off, or lower her perception of how fun you are to be around

if you are met with a girl who is offering bad logistics, not enjoying your company, and not willing to build rapport, chances are she doesn't want to have sex with you, in that case you should save some time, cut things short, and find other girls who are offering better opportunities and keep approaching and meeting new girls on the regular instead of focusing on the specific girls, the more you meet, the more opportunities

less thinking about how to do it perfect and get that specific girl, more thinking about how to get laid with any girl that tickles your fancy and actually taking any form of action towards leading to that end, your game will develop more quickly as a result and you will notice similarities between girls you are meeting on a regular basis and girls you have met in the past


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