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this is just sort of a rambling rant about my inability to fully understand the A2 process.
I don't have any DHV routines. I chatted up this slightly older HB8 indian woman on the train. She sat across the aisle from me in a really uncomfortable seat, and 5 seconds later asked my permission to sit in the 3 seater with me. As soon as she sat down I asked her opinion about jewelry on men. From there we chatted about sex and relationships, attraction, etc. My body language was really good. I was very comfortable in my seat, I never fully invested my attention in her by turning my body to face her, because we were sitting beside one another. There was always the space of the third seat between us. She proceeded to touch my arm a few times when she was stating a point. It never really felt like an IOI, but i took it as a green light to do the same to her and so I did. The conversation, at some point, turned to past relationships and she also mentioned her current "Sweetheart". I found it odd that she only referred to him as "sweetheart" and never anything else, particularly never using "boyfriend".
I know a bunch of you are in the same boat as me still. Approaching is not the issue anymore. We've jumped in the water, now we're just treading water trying to feel the direction of the current in order to know where to swim. I'm going from never ever having understood women, to having to figure them out based on these instructions. I feel like I need to actually see it done. But the video footage of these pick up artists actually doing this from start to finish is either non-existent or super expensive. And the lack of footage revives my skepticism in the whole community.
Sounds like you did a very good job. But you didn't take the next step.
The term is 'escalation'.
You opened her, you attracted her, you built some comfort, but you didn't escalate by building a time bridge, n-close, etc..
You have to lead where you want it to go. 99% of the time, for most of us a woman will not lead for you, she will only follow or not. And if you fail to lead (what we call escalation), it ends at that point.
The situation was obviously not conducive to physical escalation on board the train, so if you desired to see this woman again and don't have anything in common with her you should have made such arrangements before your conversation ended.
Like I tell everybody, the biggest mistake I see most guys making isn't opening or in building attraction. Almost any guy can open and build attraction with some girl, and most have. The biggest problem most guys have is location and physical escalation.
And if you can't or wont escalate, nothing else really matters. This is the area where the greatest risk of rejection takes place. And it's a tipping point. Because after this point both of you know 'it's on'. And not just another casual conversation.
In other words at some point you have to put your cards on the table and ask her out, get her number and talk her into meeting you at a more favorable location at some point in the future. So you can proceed into the MM C-2/3, S (mystery method comfort building and seduction phases).
Simply think of any goal, and the steps you need to take to get there. If, for example you want to have sex with a girl in your apartment, and you live on the second floor, at some point you must lead her up the steps to your apartment. See what I'm getting at?
So think of the goal with the particular girl, then work out the steps that you need to take to reach that goal. Then implement the steps one by one. In no time you'll be where you want to be.
But if you fail to take the action required by following these steps, then it's a 100% guarantee of failure.
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