THE SPOT: gym, outside, jacuzzi

THE GIRL: fake blonde, 5 feet tall, nice tits, looks a little older, Argentinian.

Long workout, were both in the jacuzzi with two other guys. Its a large jacuzzi.

I start off with a line saying - "doesn't it feel like were in an elevator, stuck next to each other yet not talking"

She doesn't hear a word i say because a train passes by at the same instant... I think that was a good thing, terrible line. should have just said hi.

Good thing is, she didn't hear what I said, yet she responds promptly, "I can't hear too well I'm a little deaf on one ear. "

We talk for an hour. We click. We have plans, we both love the beach, volleyball, she wants to go skydive. She has issues, shes been in 4 failed engagements. Shes 30. She seems to like me. Shes asks my age, I'm 25, she no longer shows interest.

Shortly after we get out of the jacuzzi, and we end up chit chatting a bit on a bench, I tell her i want to grab a cup of coffee with her someplace. Get to know her better.

She makes age an issue, I tell her its no big deal, its just a number.

By the way, I don't have my phone its in the locker room. I ask her to grab her phone and call me, I told her I'll text her back something funny and we'll go out. Or she can just ignore my text if shes not interested.

She focuses on the age again. She calls. Call does not go through, no reception. I ask her to send me a text. She fakes it.

We have a small discussion about the age thing. I say bye to her.

Where I fucked up: I focused on the bad. I tried to make her feel better about her age. Which in turn made her feel older.

Stupid. So stupid I can't stop laughing.

What I learned from this:

1) If a girl has some kind of insecurity, such as her age, don't try to make her feel better about it, because then you are acknowledging something is wrong. Instead, brush it off as no big deal, because it really is not.

2) Always carry your phone with you. ALWAYS! I had no exit strategy, I wanted to cut it short. But I couldn't leave until she did, because she had the phone.

What I should have done: In my opinion, the way to go here was to make her feel stupid about it. Indirectly. What I should have said was "look, im 25, you are 30, yet we still had an awesome conversation for more than an hour, but if you don't want to talk, thats cool."

I pushed too hard to prove her wrong. Lesson learned.

BTW I'm very new at pickup.



Thoughts?

I know virtually nothing about pickup (at least in field) but when it comes to theory I think I'm great. Here's my opinion, and tell me, oh masters of the pickup, if I'm right:

It seems like you tried far too hard and put far more effort into it than she did.

dude, making mistakes is a good thing, if you learn from them! looks like you did so keep up the good job.. and yes you should have brushed it off like it's no big deal, in fact you should not bring up anything that has to do with age, just focus on good things and turn to a quick routine. I'd do the travel bag routine, which is a great way to let a woman know your interested in her with the cheesy "your so pretty" stuff (only after attraction when your in comfort building) .

travel bag routine (credit:mystery)
hey, lets say we have known each other for like what? half a year, were just walking hand hand talking about how we enjoy life. and we'd have ourself going on auto-pilot, and the thing is I always end up at a travel bag store once I go auto-pilot. And you be like, babe? why are we here, what you need a bag or something? And i'm like no, I dont.. But it's just something about travel bags, you know they are very handy, It's hard to explain but something is just always attracting me to them, you know you can just zip m up n go, put everything in them you want and start travelling the world, they just always come in handy. So basiclly, what im trying to say is.. your like a travel bag..

she'll be all confused and thinking about it, believe me it works. But dont wait for her reaction for to long, and dont try to explain the story, if she's like what do you mean?? just be like we'll you'l figure it out later bla bla bla. thing is you never want to explain youself, cuz your actually lowering your value, cuz you didn't tell or explain the story right. if you dont answer her, she'll feel like the stupid one, cuz she didn't get it. Just pass on to the next routine!