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There seem to be serious trust and mutual respect issues in your relationship.

About this HPV point , did you ask her why she didn't tell you ? One explanation is that she got it during your relationship with someone, and that's why she didn't tell, putting you at risk.

I love my gf and do NOT put them at risk, even while cheating (which I do, but that's my own business). I'd better tell the truth with a chance of breaking up (after all, I'm responsible, so I must handle it if it goes unexpected).

I guess it's time for a log conversation with her...
This kid and many others are right, seriosuly keep us updated cause its time for a long ass chat as to WHY she didnt tell you and WHEN she didn't tell you, cause I have a really strong feeling she might have gotten it when you were together with someone else, "even if she didn't intend to sleep with the guy it just happened" kind of story.

I feel bad for you bro, I think everyone who replied her does, but I feel even worse to know a fellow PUA doesn't see the scenario he is in, even though he would easily be able to identify it if it wasn't happening to him. You know the answer that is why you posted it on here, you know what everyone was going to say, you even know what you would say, you just can't follow through with it cause of some sort of fear or some emotional connection, but do what is right you are only 24 its time to move on mate.

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If you've been with her for 3 1/2 years and she had herpes then why has it taken so long for her to give it to you? you catch my drift?
This is where Im coming from... I saw your answer and thats a possibility. Its also a possibility that she is sleeping with other guys. Ive had three solid hb9s GFs. Two had low self esteem and both cheated. The second was exactly like you describe.... 4 yrs cohabitational, smoking hot, guys everywhere. This is recoverable... Look man, I had a a serious gf come to me 10 months into our relationship and tell me she tested positive for HIV. It was from a sexual assalt...But I straight up asked her when we got together and she lied. I get why but I spent 35 days on my floor drinking and spent two months putting my mind back together and never got sick. And I have to be the luckiest fucker alive.

Dark One, I really respect some of your posts man... At some point you have to ask yourself what this is saying your you. Putting up with this is setting bad precedence. Once trust has been broken there no way to put it back together. Its over. I feel for you and its a hard pill to swallow but youre young and healthy. Be thankful! Im curious how this ends... let us know!

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Good advice in here! I have to say I respect and look up to Dark one, he has always given my self and others great advice! he has taken the time to talk to me in privet and saved my relationship many times! I have followed his guide lines many times and admire his real world advice.

Dark one you are a guru! SO WTF MAN? What gives?

On the other hand I want to understand where you are coming from, and I understand you live with this girl so this relationship is no joke, its not just a summer fling.

perhaps you have a deep emotional connection with this girl? which I believe is the case, if you do try to salvage this relationship I would do it 100% on your terms! this girl does not deserve any leeway! treat this like a new relationship and make her prove her self to your once again....and if she fucks up for god sakes dump her!


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DARK ONE, I have never posted on this forum before but after reading this I just have to... This is how I think:

If you don't want to lose respect for yourself in the long run, you HAVE to tell this girl to pack her things.
Yes, there is a huge chance the next months will be HELL and it might take you a long time to recover from it, but judging from your other posts/replies you seem to be a great guy who deserves a descent girl - and who does not let himself get f#cked over - No matter how much in love you are right now.

Let me make it clear: A descent girl would NEVER hide an STD from her partner and take the risk to get him infected -FULL STOP
Your girl might be a 10 in terms of looks, but character wise she's not better than a 3.
This girl has knowingly covered up about this STD, this is NOT ACCEPTABLE and there is NO (I repeat: NO) reason in the world to not tell you about it.
If she really loved you, she would never have exposed you to such a risk.

Yes, I believe she was afraid of losing you, however in that situation it is toxic: she rather lets you get the STD, than losing you. Think about it!
Do you want to tell your kids one day that their mom gave you STD to keep you around? If there was no protection during sex, she did exactly that!

I consider myself older than most on this forum and believe me, I know how hard it can be to break up with a LongTerm girlfriend you LOVE.
However I promise you, if you don't break up with her you will turn into a miserable piece of shit. You will lose all your self respect.
Trust is gone, there's no way your relationship will recover from it. If you are the strong, descent guy I believe you are, you walk away from it before it's too late.
I have the feeling it might be too late already for you to realize, please prove me wrong!


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Wow guys thank you! very flattered by the complements! As for my relationship, Im not sure were it stands at this point...I refuse to be the "jealous bf"! jealousy is destructive, and something I try to avoid! Its the worst of all emotions! I find my self at times thinking "Are there more lies I don't know about" or "has she cheated or will she cheat". which is not something I would have ever thought about a few weeks ago...in fact before I found out she had been lieing I honestly trusted her 100%! and in the blink of an eye it was gone!

This problem will most likely be the pitfall of our relationship. Do I Love her? of course I do, but do I trust her? hell no! no one would after such a big lie, and as much as it is hard for me to admit it the relationship might be doomed.

Love makes you do crazy f$cking things! stupid you might say lol

Why do I stick around? Well she is by far the most compatible girl I have ever been with! emotionally, sexually, and intellectually. Until she lied to me she was the women I wanted to marry so its not a surprised that this is a tough decision!

On the other hand I know of at least 20 girls who are 8s, 9s and 10s who I could call up tomorow and go on a date with, the same girls that I have had to say to "sorry I have a gf"....the girls who I turned down and ignored so that I could be faithful to my gf, the same gf who lied to me. lol I told beautiful women who wanted me "sorry I have a gf" haha not many guys would have done the same!

Part of me of me wants to say "I love you lets make this work", and part of me wants to say "Fuck you, Go date one of your looser ex boyfriends you ungrateful bitch, while I go date one of the many women who I turned down for you".



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Why do I stick around? Well she is by far the most compatible girl I have ever been with! emotionally, sexually, and intellectually. Until she lied to me she was the women I wanted to marry so its not a surprised that this is a tough decision!

I totally believe this. Tho I am sure you know there are girls likely more compatible than she is. It's not the first time you are having issues with her behavior and I think I remember you mentioning that if something similar ever happens again, she will be history.
Now something even worse happened and you are still struggling to show her the door. Of course this is common if love is involved.. Remember, she did not lie to you only once, she was keeping a secret for how many YEARS? She knew this would 1 day affect your health as well, yet she still chose to be dishonest for so long! She would never tell you if she cheated on you, because she is insecure. If you still even think about marrying the woman who knowingly gave you an STD, that is your decision.

I have seen a lot of your good advice to others and I could swear that you'd give yourself the same advice as I am giving you now.
She would not at all be ideal to give birth to children of a rare genuine man like you.
We all know there are better women out there, you just have to face the truth even tho it will crush your world...
If you leave her, you will be very happy in the long run that you did so. I know it's hard to understand right now, but you WILL get over her and find a better one. If you decide to let her stay in your life, you will turn very insecure no matter how many girls still like you.


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If your living with her then I highly recommend leaving for a week to clear your head.


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cmd is dead fucking on point. he nailed it.

also, i believe the only way to save the relationship, is to walk away, and close this phase of it, if this girl TRULY loves you and is intended to be your WIFE, she will find a way of WINNING YOU back.

then, and only then, will you be able to TRUST her.

and your trust will be stronger.

don't get me wrong, i'm not condoning hurting her on the way out. but the fact of the matter is that you are angry, you are hurt, you feel alone, you feel as though you lost a friend-a lover-a confidant, and your world has been rocked into a different reality that you didn't realize existed.

does that sound like a place where "love" can flourish?

sorry, it can't.

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Here's an important question, have you even talked to her about this yet and did she know she had it?
I got an std from my current GF about a year after we started dating, I was in the same boat as you and about to drop her, but I after talking with her she was unaware and it has made us closer now because of it.
Just communicate effectly and if she really did knowly withhold that information then I would say where there isnt trust there isnt a relationship


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