ok here is my sticking point,

i was never really hugged much as a child, i feel pretty uncomfortable touching people a lot, i find it strange, my problem is that because of growing up like this i dont really know anything about kino or kino escalation, could any of you fine peeps help me out here, tell me what it is/ best way to do it because i really struggle to understand it


thanks again

Carl

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I'm not a kino expert, in fact I'm dealing with kino situations very often.

Anyways.

Good ways to get rid of the discomfort of being hugged

1. You be the hugger (even if it feels weird to you because you dont hug or don't get hugged often) People tend to find it natural, normal and even desireable to be hugged.

2. If you live with your family, hug them, even if they're not that used to it. They surely wont reject you badly and it gives you a place to practice the proper way.

3. Even with my kino situation, I can tell you something (because I didnt have this problem before)...

Kino is something that you do from your balls. Being touchy and daring to touch a woman is a matter of how big your balls are ( in a way). Do not rationalize the act of touching her arm, leg or hands. Just Do it. Your brain wants to touch her, your body wants it too, your heart might even want it as well, so what do you need? Pull the trigger; grabb your balls and do it.

Strech your hand while you talk, place it on her shoulders (like you're going to hug), squeeze a bit, smile, take your hand away, keep talking, that's it.

Do not focus your attention on the touch.

Just do it: Example. You're sitting at a coffee shop, next to each other. Both your hands and hers are on the table, you're talking about something, you know, just chit chat. Try grabbing her finger while you tell her a story about how amusing and crazy your cat/dog/turtle or whatever you can think of, is, let her finger go.

Think of it this way. We, as babies, start taking small steps in order to learn to walk properly, right? So you need to take small steps.

Be a hugger, be confident that people won't be troubled by a guy that likes to express gratitude or affection with a hug. This is, to my opinion, one of those things that we men do have in comon with women. No one really dislikes to feel affection, even if it feels weird at times.

Just try it man, just be confident to touch her in a friendly non-agressive way (by non agressive I mean, non sexual way).. If you aren't used to kino you wont be able to handle sexual touch that easy.

Trust me men. Women like to be hugged and touched. Period. It's just a matter of getting rid of the anxiety and going for it

Just remember.

Be a hugger.
Be friendly.
Do not concentrate on the touch.
Talk, smile or laugh while you hug or touch her
Small steps: First squeeze her shoulders, then her waist, then her butt (but not yet)

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thanks for the advice mate

been trying to touch people more when i talk, and you are right people do respond to it in a positive way usually . so im going out again tonight with my new wingman, gonna try and keep it up


thanks again

Carl

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Glad to read that..

Some People do not respond well to touch but that should be no excuse for you not to try

Keep it up, be touchy and confident You'll do better every time, that's for sure

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think it worked so well because i was smiling or laughing as i touched them

gonna try using some of adam lyons directindirect game, it looks interesting and it could help with my situation

thanks for your help

Carl

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Play a game where you touch each other, for instance go behind her back and say: What am I drawing on your back? Draw a circle and give it a smiley face and say (or make her guess) its a moon or something.

I use several tactics for kino, because I believe it is important to establish a physical connection early on, which helps to avoid awkwardness later. Here's some things I do:

Walk next to her, lean in like you are trying to listen to her as she talks as you're walking. While doing this you want your arms to brush into hers. You can then guage her responsiveness and then do it more and more, or stop doing it if she intentionally distances herself each time you make contact.

When opening a door for her, allow her to enter then very casually put your hand on the small of her back as though you are pushing her through. You don't actually push, you just touch. It seems very natural in the context of opening the door and escorting the woman inside. It's a nice subtle move, and she'll like the feeling it gives her, being "ushered" in.

Hands. Make your hands a focal point. You gesture with them all the time no doubt, so she'll be looking at them often. Get a manicure. Wear rings. Wear bracelets. Give her a reason to focus in on your hands. I have wrings with tribal designs and "spinners" and the girls always fiddle with them to check them out. They'll ask if you buff your nails or manicure them, and probably grab your hand and feel them if they look nice and shiny. Once she is touching you, that's her kino'ing YOU! That's so money!

One last one, which is a personal fav, is showing them self defense moves. If you know martial arts this helps greatly. If you bring up the topic, you can offer to "show her" a move. Now you are touching her under the guise of teaching her how to defend herself. I've literally got to touch women's breasts while doing this before, it's amazing. The move I always use is simple, but hard to explain in words. Basically, have the person grab your wrist or forearm and turned your hand over their wrist breaking their thumbside grasp, and using their arm as a fulcrum. It always has to be thumbside. They'll never know how to do it unless you show them, which means you do it to them, and they do it to you. That's a lot of touching already. This move is so money it's not even funny. You can grab them and pick them up and toss them around at that point if you want because they'll be use to you touching them. This sets up kino escalation for more sexually oriented touching as well.

Btw, I've personally used all of these moves many times and they always work.

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thanks for the tips guys appreciate it very much been working hard this past week on my kino, trying to use it more and escalate, had quite a lot of success so far puaninja did something similar to your self defense routine, but with dancefloor game basicly got some chicks on the floor with me and maccerana'd with them (90's dance for anyone who doesnt know) it went really well now im trying to use kino escalation to help me close, any advice on this subject would be most welcome

thanks again guys, really i do appreciate it

Carl

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