The Path of Action

While meditating I had a realization and just ran to my computer to put this on paper.

"They have already been slain Arjuna, you will only be my instrument". - Krishna to prince Arjuna on the eve of battle, Bhagavad Gita

This took me at least 8 readings of the Gita to finally understand and internalize. I glossed over that seemingly unimportant passage and moved on, never realizing just how important it actually is.

The universe provides

One of the founding principles of CMP is to internalize the knowledge that we are only in control of one thing - ourselves. Everything else is outside our control and thus not our business. What does that mean in practical terms? You see the girl you want, you go and talk to her. However she reacts to you is HER business and none of yours. Once you relinquish that responsibility, you earn a degree of freedom to act the way you truly want to, simply because you have no control over the outcome.

So why has this particular quotation stood out to me lately?

Because it perfectly exemplifies the above mentioned principle. In this case, prince Arjuna is reluctant to go into battle, even though he has a kingdom to gain and not much to lose. In his discussions with God, God explains to him that the decision has already been made - he is merely the instrument.

In English please?

She has already decided weather or not she will sleep with you. Let me repeat that SHE HAS ALREADY DECIDED WEATHER OR NOT SHE WILL SLEEP WITH YOU.

How do you feel? Your answer should be "Free" because thats what I just gave you. Freedom. She already knows that she likes you, all that's missing is for you to take action. It's the natural course of things.

"Seek refuge in the attitude of detachment and you will amass the wealth of spiritual awareness. Those who are motivated only by desire for the fruits of action are miserable, for they are constantly anxious about the results of what they do. Whenever consciousness is unified, however, all vain anxiety is left behind." -Bhagavad Gita

As of today I want you to start doing things differently.

In sales, we are taught to love the word no, because it is both a challenge and on step closer to yes. We are going to take this a little deeper. From now on, when you approach a beautiful woman, you do it as a man who's natural duty it is to appreciate women. There is no such thing as a blow out or a rejection, because you never offered yourself in the first place. You are merely looking for that girl that will love you. She's already out there, now it's just a question of where? Go out! Talk to everyone! Do it like a child that is curious. Get to know people. I see SO many posts of people who have utterly lost hope, who are beaten down by brutal "rejection" and its SO sad because they forgot what this is - A GAME.

Go and have fun! Take ACTION, things will turn out as they should. Trust me

"They live in freedom who have gone beyond the dualities of life. Competing with no one one, they are alike in success and failure and content with whatever comes to them. They are free, without selfish attachments; their minds are fixed in knowledge. They perform all work in the spirit of service and their karma is dissolved". -Bhagavad Gita

I was walking downtown last night with my wing, Zan and Cliff (from Cliffslist). It was fashion week and so we were enjoying the scenery and talking about Zan's travels (btw, what an interesting fellow, check out his stuff if you already havnt). While walking, my wing points out a blonde walking away from us and he says "she is just your type". He knows me too well. I walk up to her and start talking to her, she was adorable. What a sweetheart honestly. She asked me to walk her back to her car and we got to know each other a little bit along the way. I told her I was leaving for Armenia soon and she should call me before she leaves, she asked me for my number and promised she'd call.

Will she call?

Who cares. She's an adorable girl and is always welcome in my life. She has my number, it's out of my control. If she wants to see me, she'll call - simple as that. Things will turn out as it should.

Men: Learn to let go, it is the most beautiful freedom imaginable. Take action because as a man it is your duty to appreciate women, and to invite them along in the adventure that is your life. Don't be possessive or jealous, don't get angry or hurt when she flakes.

I was having a conversation with a natural friend of mine last night at 3 am. He is probably the biggest promoter in the city and has a different beautiful girl, every night. He told me something that really resonated with me; "We often forget one thing man. In the end, SHE chooses, not us".

"They have already been slain, you will only be my instrument"

Whatever action you want to take in life already has an outcome you are not in control of. The universe tends to work itself out the way it should, you are only an instrument. Take action, it is your duty as a man.

Love and lot of it
Mack

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I see what you did there.

Finally this is a topic I can relate to because I lived it from the baby steps to the end.
But with a different perspective: she was the possessive one.

What happens when the girl you are with is the one possessive and jelous about what you do? And this is something I see everytime I find a girl interested in me.

This is not because I hang out with other girls merely, this takes place even with my regular schedule; for example when doing your activities gets in the middle of the relationship, in her words of course.

I say to girls everytime they are control freaks, and that I won`t let my life aside and my dreams because I`m in a relationship, but this seems to hurt the girl pretty down.
She realizes I`m free and that`s a part of me she won`t be able to change, it`s a huge turn off to them.

On the other hand, since I`ve been judged by those jelous eyes, I`m if not fully, almost there, aware of what a control maniac I would be if I use the same attitude.
As an exameple, I got the number from a girl working at a bookshop and she flaked on me twice, I stopped trying after that attempt. Like you`ve said: if she`s really interested she`ll give me a call.

Hey mate

It really seems like the problem you have is one of managing expectations.
Very simply put: Watch how vincent chase in Entourage is (pre-season 5). No matter what happens, good or bad, he is never upset, worried, defensive or affected. He always has that big "I own this place" smile on his face and everyone just kinda falls into line with that.

Very unsimply put: Every woman in your life should know 100% whats going on at all times. I have played around with a variety of ways. You can either straight up tell them "My life is full of passions, I am always all over the place. I believe life is an adventure to be lived. You are always welcome to join in on that adventure, but if it's something you can't handle, I understand. I will be sad, I will miss you, but I'm going on anyway". Or you can reward her behavior indirectly. After one of my girls left my place, I texted her saying "You know, Im really happy with what we have". She answers "What do you mean?". I tell her "Its just so cool how you can come over, we could have not seen each other in weeks and it feels like it was just yesterday. We talk to each other about girls/guys in our lives and we help each other out... then we do horrible things to each other. Its really cool how non-judgmental you are and open, I love it!" Simple, clear.

Its normal that she flips out at you at times, and Ive had my fair share of crazy girls that just couldnt understand, but I can hardly blame them. Emotions arnt something anyone could control, they're just there... Listen, she WILL flip out at times, she WILL yell at times, SHE WILL threaten at times, but you just look her in the eyes, pull her in and hug her and let her calm down. Think Vincent Chase... eventually she'll fall in line with your reality. Jealousy is a feminine quality, just see it for what it is - part of her construction. Its a good thing, it shows she cares. Understand that if her mood swings and jealous outbursts are potentially harmful to your relationship and growth as a man, then you need to realize that she will not change and move on to better things.

Love and lots of it
Mack

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Desires versus Need

this is a topic I've wanted to write about for a while as it encompasses one of the founding principles of the Centered Man Project.

"For those who realize the Self are always satisfied. Having found the source of joy and fulfillment, they no longer seek happiness from the external world. They have nothing to gain or lose by any action; neither people nor things can affect their security." -Bhagavad Gita

I had reached an all time low in my life. I was failing college, I had lost the vast majority of my friends, girls were not answering my calls, and I was overweight. I had finally reached a point in my life where I decided, enough.

After discovering the Bhagavad Gita and many other texts, meeting the right people and putting the right work in, I developed an entirely new way of seeing the world and social interactions. The Centered Man Project is the result of this awakening.

One of the most powerful conclusions I came to was that Need and Desire are two entirely different things. One is bad, the other is good.

Need

What is need? We have been conditioned to think there are certain things that we absolutely need. You ever feel lost and sad without your cell phone? Exactly.
It took me a while to realize this and once I did, my life took an incredible turn.

Are you ready for this? Turns out... we actually need... NOTHING.
... Well, not exactly nothing, but let's face it, besides food, water and air, there is very little we can't live without. Think about it for a second. If you cant sit down for a few minutes without checking your phone, without getting attention for someone, if you cant just ENJOY your very own presence, there is a problem. Make it a point to sit still for a couple minutes every day. Take ONE night a week where you date yourself. No girls coming over, no friends, just you and yourself spending some quality time together. You'll be surprised at the beauty of those moments.

So Step 1

...is to recognize that you are okay RIGHT NOW. That currently, as a man (or woman) on this earth, you are naturally missing nothing. You are happy. The most beautiful moment I had last summer was lying in the grass in the pouring rain with my cousin and singing 'Stand By Me'. Im not even kidding! We were just having so much fun, nothing else existed. If we had a couple girls blowing us while we were singing, I wouldn't have said no. But did I need it to be happy? Absolutely not. I was 100% in the moment. Happy, pure, blissful.

What about desire?

Desire is natural. Desire is pure, and is free of need. Recognize the difference between the two. You want a woman, and that is normal. Do you need her to be a happy person? Absolutely not. If you apply JUST this simple concept, I promise that your results will skyrocket. Why do you think Naturals who have no knowledge of the community do so well?

Think of it this way; You ever seen a baby reaching for a cookie? I've given this example countless times before. The kid can't have the cookie, but can you get mad at him? Absolutely not. You can learn alot from children. The baby doesn't want the cookie for validation, he does not need it to show off to his friends, or be happy. The baby is already happy. The cookie came into his field of vision, he saw it, he wants it. Simple as that. All that exists for the child is himself, the cookie and the energy of desire that flows between the two.

Ride that pure energy of desire

Once I discovered this concept, I immediately put it to the test and the results were staggering. I found I could go up to just about anyone, in just about any situation, say just about anything, and still end up surrounded by beautiful women, and great new friends. I no longer felt the need to text or call people constantly, I no longer had to have all the attention on me, I no longer had to have women texting me all the time to feel good about myself. I was just... happy.

"Better indeed is knowledge than mechanical practice. Better than knowledge is meditation. Better still is surrender of attachments to results, because there follows immediate peace." -Bhagavad Gita

I remember walking down the street once and seeing this stunning blonde girl walking home. I didnt know it at the time but she was having a terrible day. Like a child, free of need but full of desire, I walked up to her, touched her arm lightly and then - She turned around looking SUPER aggressive and screeched "WHAT?!". I looked her in the eye, smiled and said "I think you look lovely, and I just had to come up and tell you". She looked at me, relaxed, smiled and we spoke for a little bit. She was having a terrible day and as I was leaving, she turned and said "Thanks so much for making my day better".

How can you take away from someone who needs nothing?
Love and lots of it
Mack

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Wow. Just wow. This is the third time I'm rereading this whole thread and it makes so much more sense every time I reread it. Now, time to put it into practice!

Btw dude, I'd shoot you a PM regarding this project. Fantastic work man!

I would like to announce that after many months of work, I am pleased to invite everyone to check out our website, www.centeredmanproject.com

We focus mainly on self-development as we believe that being the best you can possibly be is the key to being a more attractive man.
Take a look and let us know what you think!

Love and lots of it
Mack, Carbon, OliverKing

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This is so fucking clever, and i agree in everything you are saying, although i must say some of this is getting a little to spiritual for me!

it really reminds me of this video of kong talking about confidence

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h64TFQpX5cM[/youtube]

and i can't help but think, that mystery really mentally fucked up a lot of guys out there! his logic says "if you have high value, you will not tell a girl about your true intentions nor that she looks freaking hot" my logic: why the fuck would i not tell her that she looks like the hottest girl i have ever seen, if i really do have high value i will get her anyway, and to be true with you intentions just shows you have balls and dare to be the person you are, not some fake as idiot you is trying to manipulate you!

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My mind have an idea of what i deserve - i will go beyond it

I want to be clear here that I am in no way singling out a pickup method over an other and calling them wrong. Mystery Method is actually nothing short of brilliant if you know how to look at it properly. What we teach at CMP is meant to compliment the way you do things, not destroy it. I still use some MM here and there, and I have personally seen other Gurus, coaches and MPUAs in the field use it in the field. There is nothing wrong with it if you know what to take from it and what to leave out. The thing that most people forget is that its called Mystery Method for a reason... it's MYSTERY'S method. It works for him because it is built around his identity, not yours.

This thread isnt about bashing one method and preferring another, its about appreciating, loving, and bringing back a sense of adventure and identity to the people here. It's a modest attempt to wake us all up.

Love and lots of it
Mack

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Fuck me. This thread, I can't even explain exactly what from it, but it's kind of blown my mind open on what's been wrong with my game. Despite getting better across the last year I still sometimes feel really in-congruent when hitting on random girls and reading this it just makes that seem stupid. I'm sure most of this stuff has been said before on these forums but the way you've put it across really hit at my problems. Cheers!

Remembering this is a game.

You can learn a lot about game from music. A lot of people don't realize this. Most just listen to music and get nothing out of it besides temporary entertainment, often forgetting that music is the international language of romance. Music reminds us not to take ourselves or life too seriously, to just enjoy and flow with the moment.

Listen carefully

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpyZEzrDf4c[/youtube]

"I'm known for taking what I think I deserve, and you're overdue"

One of my favorite song lines of all time. If you understand the mindset behind it, you no longer need to learn anything to get good with women. If you internalize that mindset and approach every new situation with that in mind, you'll notice the difference immediately.

Try it. Walk around life with entitlement from now on. You CAN talk to that stunner surrounded by 4 big muscled guys. You can go straight up to her and ask "Who are you? Im curious about you?" and take her hand and pull her away. You CAN do that, because you deserve this. You CAN go up to your boss, look him in the eye and tell him you deserve a raise "and here's why...". You start to live you're life with a delusional sense of entitlement and all of a sudden the world you live in stops being so scary. All of a sudden you feel like you have a grip, because you can and you WILL achieve your potential.

Have fun

A big problem I see in people nowadays is that they forgot this is all a game. There are rules, but they can be bent or broken. There is a winner and a loser. There are players - although not who you think they are. You see the two players are your higher self, and your lower self. Your higher self is the man you want to be, the man you should be. Your lower self is the man you let yourself be. The fat slob on the couch, that stays at his dead end job for 20 years not wanting to move up because he fears his own success. One winner, one loser - choose one.

People tend to take these things too seriously. I often notice people get caught up in their pursuits and lose sight of what this should be - FUN!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdtdRj_TYts[/youtube]

"Baby, you're playing hard to get but... oh if I get you, oh if I get you!"

If a girl doesn't call me back, she's just playing hard to get. If she looks away when I'm talking to her, she's just playing hard to get. It's just that simple to me. I don't care about the how or why. I am attractive, I am a man, and I take what I want. Everyone has the right to invite, everyone has the right to refuse. She can play whatever games she wants, but she better not find herself alone with me, because she'll be mine. I know it. That knowledge makes everything so much fun. I no longer need to work that hard to get what I want. I know it's a game, it's meant to be fun. There will be some back and forth, there will be some difficulty, but in the end, she's mine. She knows it, I know it.

Don't lose sight of yourself, relax, have fun, invite her into your life and allow her to play her game. It's all a dance.

Love and lots of it
Mack

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The_Mack is totally right about stand up for what you want. Train to that, give you amazing confidance.
Tyler's new video actually support that point pretty well.
He stand up to 4 policeman officer and still did his video.



However, be smart about it, as in the video he is polite to people and give value to everyone, express your passion, be 100% honest saying exactly what you think is absolutly right however, have tact, saying things the right way. Since every one is equal, treat them equal.

Remember, other people deserve respect as much as you.
Cheer guys

But what if I see her again??

You’re hanging around downtown, or on your way to work, or just having a coffee, and you look up and notice her.
Tall, slim body, cute smile, just the way you like her. You hear her voice for the first time and she sounds just adorable.

Ok dude, enough of this, get off your ass and go approach! Wait, what is it? Your legs wont move? SNAP OUT OF IT, SHES BEAUTIFUL AND YOU WANT HER.

“okok, Im going!” says the voice inside your head. You walk over and say hi, she smiles, you two start talking and you hit it off. With shaking hands, you give her your phone and with a mumbling voice ask her to put her number in. SURPRISE, she accepts! You now walk away with a brand new phone number and feel on top of the world.

3 days later, you decide to finally call her, but to your dismay, she doesn’t answer. Okay, it’s not the end of the world, maybe something happened? Who cares.

Fast Forward - this isnt a post about flakes.

The above is a situation that’s far too common to many people, and the recurring question is “If I run into her again, how should I act? What should I do?”

The answer to the question is rather complex and obviously depends on the situation, but the general advice I can give is; Don’t think about what you should do, think about how you should feel.

The average man gets rejected tons of times. The player gets rejection hundreds if not thousands of times by women. What makes the difference between the two? The average man takes the rejection as a failure, and feels as if it is a testament to his abilities with women, while the player takes the rejection for what it is: Just a part of the game, and keeps enjoying the process.

You see, the true player has a deeply ingrained sense of reality. In his mind, he is a charming person. His charm doesn’t depend on the reaction of one particular women, just as the hockey player knows that the 3 shots he missed will be forgotten due to the one goal he scored. The player is in love with his love of women, not their reactions to him, and that love defines his interactions with women.

In English please?!

So you’re at a party and there she is sitting with friends, and all of a sudden she points at you and they all look silently. The average man will look away and try his best to get out of their field of vision – he makes excuses for his desires as a man. The player, on the other hand, lights up at the thought of the challenge. He straightens his back, puts on a smile and walks smoothly across the room.

Player “Hey guys! How do you know this little dork?”
friends: “bla bla bla”
Player “That’s cool, shes adorable, I tried to pick her up a while ago, fell hopelessly in love with her. I even sang songs outside her window on many occasions and yet she rejected me. I’v been half the man I used to be ever since”.

Said with powerful eye contact directed at the girl, with a relaxed posture and a cocky grin, this can go a long way.

So remember this

“Blessed be the man who is alike in both victory and defeat, for he shall never know pain” - Mahabarata (Hindu Epic)

If you come from a place of reaction rather than action, you leave yourself at the mercy of others. Don’t ever let your surroundings define who you are as a person and don’t ever be ashamed of your desires as a man. It is your job to be attracted to her. Let me repeat that – IT IS YOUR JOB TO BE ATTRACTED TO HER. That does NOT creep her out. What creeps her out is when you make apologies for desiring her, which means that you were NOT being genuine.

Love, and lots of it
TheMack

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Damn. I am just SO baffled by the quality of these posts. I can tell lots of work and thoughts have flown into this. You, sir, are clearly on the mental level I aspire to be one day. Favourited.

And... Congratulations and thanks for sharing. It´s people like you that make this community great.

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This was a response to someone on another forum but I thought it relevant to post here.


The post begins like this;
"So I got this lay by being completely normal and spitting zero game"


WOAH!! Back up... You mean you managed to get a girl WITHOUT all this PUA stuff? You mean that, just by being your natural self, you managed to get a complete stranger to be interested in you and eventually, exchange fluids with you? Now THAT is something worth discussing...

I'm not attacking you specifically here, but rather a general mentality that permeates the seduction community.

Listen up gentlemen!

This mindset that you create attraction in a woman is flat out WRONG. It just doesn't stand up under scrutiny. Scientific studies have proven that the attraction process is created within seconds weather you like it or not. They studied that people with platonic relationships tend to make eye contact about 40% of an entire interaction, by contrast, those with romantic interests held eye contact for a minimum of 70% of their total time together and above! So what does this mean? You want her to be interested in you romantically? Make eye contact. Eye contact doesn't significantly increase your levels of attractiveness... It is what makes you attractive to begin with. (source: Leil Lowndes; How to Make Anyone Fall in Love With You)

So what do I do with all these tactics?

Throw them out the window and start being a genuine human being. Everything else is a waste of time. Once the eye contact is established and you two have joked around a bit, find commonalities. Scientific studies have proven that upon discovering commonalities, chemicals are released in both potential lovers' bodies which causes an effect similar to being high (falling in love anyone?).

What Next?

Just that. Be a man and find out what you want in a girl (those commonalities shouldn't be faked), go for it with no fear and no presumption, and build an experience together like you were meant to.

Stop being surprised that you are enough. There is nothing extraordinary you need to do to get a girl. She either likes you off the bat or doesn't. All you really have to do is not fuck it up. That means be genuine, be clean, and learn to shut the fuck up. No games, no gimmicks, no lame jokes. Allow yourself to just flow. The rest is easy

Love and lots of it
Mack

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This post make me glad to have joined this forum.
Thanks dude, i really feel at home now.

I used to follow an other forums, and most of the guys are pure narcissist assholes with fake developed confidence.

Thanks again.