Dating and Lifestyle

I just want to remind to everyone and to myself that pickup does not definit who you are. It's a cool set of skill to learn in order to better love women. Its not about the sex, it's not about feed your ego with this big pimp image. A balance life is the key to true happiness, but please dont use it as a pussy excuse to not going out. "I'm just gonna focus on my career, my look, my body right now..." NO!!

I receive some pm about how do I manage FwB/open relationship. I'm no way near a pro but in a nutshell:
1-You tell them exactly what you are looking for right now.
2-Dont see them as just a sex tool...

Honestly... Once you got the girl, the game is not over, keep running qualification, report, do the push-pull. Make her feel the full range of emotion constantly. Idk if any of you guys had that before, you are on a date but you are still scaning the room for more girls to approch... I used to be like that. But think about how much time you have to live ( remove all the time you spend sleeping, procrastinating, wasting, etc) You really dont have alot to wast on boring date...
I guess my FwBs stay with me because I give them this emotional roller coster that no buddy give them and constantly doing awsome dates, and yes, one day there may be some one better then me, well too bad. Dont get me wrong, I'm not rich at all, you would be surpris how many cool free places montreal have. Bring her to lazertag, watch outdoor concert, go to a improv class together, grossery shopping then cook together. Adventure!!

Go crazy for date, you are not doing it for them, but you make it awsome for you. Have some kick ass memorie! I dont really post alot of date report, mostly because the community only value FR/LR. how many girls you laid, like a retarded video game. Remember, you are in this to build a better social life not to surrend yourself with PUA's and go out cold approch girls every weekend. Yes, as newbies, you have to go out alot to get good. But one day you have to stop. Fuck some random girls might be nice but that is not the real long term goals.

Talk to guys or girls to make friends. Maybe enjoy a pool game, go meet friends at coffee shop, be gossip. Go have some amazing date!

Toronto trip/ Ambulance incident


So I went to Toronto last weekend, on saturday night we went to Sky bar. There is a mexican party going on, most of the chicks there are 9-10s. Honestly, I was scared at first, had some AA but still approch people and introduce myself and casual conversation.

I guess when you give a good vibe, people are just addict to you, there is a birthday party going on and a group of 7 girls where dancing in the middle of the dance floor. I went in and use the hand of god opener. They qualify themselves and start to take picutre with us. I got lock in with one of the girl but since my wings are not PUAs, they lost interest pretty fast.

one of the good sets, I did was a 3 sets mixte, a cousin with 2 sisters. So I was looking after my friend.

Me: hey, have you see a tall indian guy who look very gangastar?
Guy: no bros but for a sec I taught that was a joke!
Me: no no, he actually is a wannabe gangstar, btw you are one of the niciest person here.
I start to chat the guy, about 2 minutes into the conversation, the 2 sisters join in the conversation. the group split to 2, me with one of the sister and he with the other one. I dance a bit with the girl and keep taking to the other 2 while, touching the other girl and every time I talk to her, I give her a little smirk.

About 15 minutes later, I got isolate with her, she look at me like she want me, we made out. 3-4 minutes later, there is a chaos in the middle of the dance floor, we find out her sister past out on the dance floor.

The night end up in a hospital, their parents came and end of the story. Pretty funny night but give me a pretty good leason. Logistic justify 50% of the game.

Tourist Night

Date: 31 July
Member : Janador and Me
Location : Cafe Campus and Entrance of Foufoune Electrique

So we decided to catch up after my trip in Toronto at Fouf, but the club was full so we went to Cafe Campus. the night was fun, I showed Janador some new stuff that I discovered and learned. We bound with about almost every one in the club, we party closed about 3 girls each unfortunatly they are summer students from other country.

About 11h00, I want to show him the limbo belt routine, so I pull out my tie and use it with my own group of girl, then people start to join in. Was amazing, we made friend with the hole club. people just push each and other to join in the fun. I love to use those fancy stuff in club!

Later on that night we decide to take 1 more drink at fouf then go home. at fouf, we were chatting up two 18 yrs old girls from T.O. And B.C. one is a brunette with big boobs and the other one is a blonde with green eyes, both about 7.5HB. Fouf was full so no one can get in, we bounce them to the gay village, once again... everything is closed. So we bounce them to Janador's appartement for more drinks. I didnt got any connection or comfort with any of the 2. Janador had alot in commun with the brunnette, so I want to help him isolate once inside the appartement. However, my girl wasnt comply to anything I ask. So I dive into comfort and made friend. About 1h later, we both got NC and he got a date over the phone.

Once again, Sexual escalation and kino has to be done in the beginning of the conversation. Or else you show no interest to the girl make you fall into the friend zone. But I was glad that we are able to bounce random girls from the street to our appartement and even I didnt got any makeout that an improvement.

Dealing with Male Obstacles

So I been rereading my journal and find some good ways to deal with different type of male obstacles.

The nice guy/Beta
Usually they are not creepy, they are just the typical chump beta guy that stay with their group and try to seek value and approuval from the others. For example, they will dance in group but not ready enjoying the music and pretend to have fun.
In a relationship, they are usually the insecure type, very needy, try to call the girl all the time. " Do you still love me?"
They are constantly chasing value.

Solution


A good way to deal with them, its simply give them approuval and pay attention about what they have to say. no one usually give them value or try to give them some out of pitty, you should just treat him with respect. Basicly, just tell them " you are cool man! "
What I did from the past, it was a 2 sets mixte, the girl and her coworker. He was a cook, so we went on a conversation about cooking, and when the girl or other dude was trying to bash him on how lame he is, I just defend him and fight back for him. And I even introduce him to some other people of the room.

So just accept the needy guy.

Douchbag/Alpha male

Usually they come in gang, and he is often the one that come on to you and grab you over the shoulder, trying to AMOG you or try to make you look bad to make him to better.
They have higher value but they can not generate value from inside so they want to preserve their power so in order to do that, they put every one down to make them fell better.
They are usually the jealous boyfriend that try to over control his GF. They want to combat you for value. "im gonna fuck you before you fuck me!" attitude.

Solution

There is 2 ways to deal with them, either you fight them, so Out Alpha them or you direct their combativity somewhere else. I love better the second one, just cause I really is not the competitif type.
So what I do, its to DHV him in place that they dont even know they got talent.
Example, he amog me, and told him that he is a funny guy and I go to this local place for improv and how is awsome and how humor is a good way to solve problem.
Another good way to deal with them, its to miss interpret their intention to jokes.
AMOG: " hey dude, that my table, GET THE FCK OUT OF HERE!"
Me: " I love you too buddy! see you in a bit! XD"

A good thing also, dont use direct body language with them cause that creat tension between you 2 and make you fail direct into an argument with him.

In a nutshell, just approuve them.

Competitif guy/Status Guy

Those one are usually try to show off what they have. They always want to be better. "you go to the gym?" " I go there 4 times a week!" Compare to the other 2 types of guy, they already have value what they want is to prouve that they are the best at what they do, that why they are a better choice. They usually DHV themselve alot.
In a relationship, those guy usually try to be higher value then the girl to prouve that they worst the hot chick they are dating.
They are competing for more value.

Solution

I compliment them and use that as a starter to qualify them and make them to prouve themselve that they are that high value male.
Ex:
Amog: "I just came from NYC with my lamborghini."
Me: " Man, I love people who travel alot. Where you go else?"

Amog: "I bet I can do more pushup then you."
Me: " I bet you do, I havent had exercice since highschool... How many time you go to gym per week?"

Make them work for their value. Then reward them with propos.

The Cool Guy/ The Naturals

This is a true high value guy, he know he is the sh*t. He will give value to other people, do not qualify himself to you and have a constant positive frame. Always center, so he do not base his value on other people cause his reality does not and will not be shaked by other people's judgement. Almost like the stereo type of guy that every one know in highschool that is cool and approuve wich party is cool and bring the crowd with him.
In a relationship, he is constantly giving propos to the girl and do cool stuff with her. He's kind of the perfect guy that girl can deal with.
So they are constantly giving out value.

Solution

I actually have actually meet a few guys from the communitty that are like that. It is extremely hard to out game them. They are just there to give people a good vibe and so much fun and positive. For example, Swinth. he's just such a fun outgoing brazilian guy that people just cant resist his positivity. XD

Instead of battle him for who is leading the frame. The best way to deal with them is to be coperative and vibe with them. Befriend them and give them the value they give out.
They are usually the best instant wing you can find in a bar. When 2 high value male meet each and other they just naturaly bound and become good friends.

So I guess the best way is to become that kind of centered man and help them to get more value. You have go with a frame of "how can I give more value."


Conclusion

I guess the base concept is to give value to everyone around you. Also it is normal that you fluctuate between those 4 types depend on your state.

If you find any other type of guy and solution of how to deal with them please share with others

Otakuthon!!!

Date: 3-5 August
Location: Palais des congres de montreal
Members: The_Shark & Me

So yea, its our once per year geekfest. Me, The_Shark went as 2 characters in a manga call death note. over all we had alot of fun flirting with people, giving out random hugs and h5. Play some swords battle, watch some anime, pown some people on video games.

I have a small entourage there but wasnt that usefull. We did number close a couple sets. I guess one worth talk about.

Saturday night, there is a dance going on, since is all age, I cant just go in and try to fast escalate and make out with girls. (my wing would told me limited believe XD, but im not crazy enough to make out with 16 yrs old yet XD) So I just dance with a couple of them not really aim for dance with one in particular just self amuse.

There is a gorgeous girl dress as a sexy maid. Got a good vibe with her but her sister is there. I bounce her outside. All was great, the only problem, she's been in those conventions for 5 years... So basicly my mistake was not bounce her more farther... and that endup to a NC and not a kiss or maybe SNL.

I got a date out of the weekend, but the girl turn out very borring.

A little sad romance story

So all begin thursday, I meet up with a old wing of mine, JasonMtl (ProjectVoodoo). We decide to go to the mad hatter to do some game like the old time. on our way there, we are warming up with some street sets and we end up bouncing a 3 sets with us into the bar. Jason and I know alot of people that night + 3 girls with us. we are closing some numbers here and there. There is 1 girl in the group I want, a cute german brunette with green eyes.
I start with some general question on all 3 girls. we share a beer together and bounce them downstair.

Then Jason comes into the conversation, I split to my target.
Me: So im assuming that, unlike your friends, you are in a hard science program.
She laugh a bit
HBGerman: Do I look that much nerds?
Me: Well, after been into IB for 2 years, I have like a special power for finding science people.
HBGerman: woot you been to IB?
Me: omg you too?? (report)
H5 her, throught in a DHV story about how I survive IB compare to the movie 300.
Me: so you are pure canadian right?
HBGerman: no actually im half german.
Me: I dont believe you, say something in german. (small qualification)
HBGerman: I actually born here + My parents didnt thought me ... ( she qualify herself)
Me: You have to at least know a little.
HBGerman: yea a little, (german sentense)
Me: You have to be more loud when you speak german!!
I repeat the same sentense but more aggresive and lourder. (a small break report)
She laught harder this time.
We then transition into german beer and I got another story on beerfest in mtl 2 months ago.
Since Jason talks about bounce to a club after.
Me: hey I want to see something.
Put up my hand, she H5 me, I spine her.
Me: you are a pretty good dancer for a nerd.
HBGerman: thx.

Jason bounce the 2 other girls to meet his social circle. Left me with my target. I bounce her to the babyfoot table to test complience, we had a great time playing.
I tease again about how she play agressive.

She tease me back, how I play like a women. We start a little playfull fight. XD
No I know that I have attraction down and she is pretty much down for the kiss, I will need to get some good comfort to bounce her off her friends.

Jason had the lead of the set, we bounce off to a club, Entourage. Once again, we got preselected right the way, 2 girls come to us and open us up. I take one of them and start to spine her around and swap to my target then to another girl.
More people join us, we form a circle in the middle of the dance floor. I can fell that we are the center of the party. after 20 minutes of dancing, I was tired and decide to socialize with some spanish tourist in the smoking area. Out of the blue, my target comes to me with her 3 friends. (I guess they were bored, Jason was outside to get one of his friend.)
Had a great time chatting. We bounce to Thursdays next.

Thursday is know for cougar and 40s+ old man. However the music is much more dancy and they have moving dance plateform. I pull out my target, start to dance a bit of salsa with her and pull her close to me. and look at her in the eyes. (didnt kiss her was a big mistake for logistic later.) Bring her back to her friends.

A latino song start, I use the Limbo Belt routine, all the girls on the dance floor was on me, tell me how cool it was, and how creative I was, etc ( thx to AFC Adam once again )

we went on a table next for some more drinks, I was pull by some cougar to do a poll dance, LOL. Got more preselection from other girls.
I went back to the table and I know was time to do some comfort.

Me: Hey I thought you said you were a shy person
HBGerman: I dont speak much.
Me: yea I totally understand that, I was like that too in highschool. You know most of the logical people doesnt open up that much. But most of the time they are the wildest and most adventurious ones. (another qualification) Like their inner geek another person.
she told me some story about her and highschool
I start to question about why she is into biomed, does she want to be a doctor, and was she doing it for her or for her familly.
I learn that she got 2 biggers sisters who are very good in school, she fell bad to not be as good as them.
I give her a hug. pretty sad story actually
I start to question about living for herself not for someone else.
Transition to traveling.
Me: If I had money, I would just travel all the time, what your favorite place to be in the world? (qualification hoop)
She told me is Germany or Italia.
I qualify her further by asking why...
We had a deep conversation for about 20 minutes.
Jason bounce the sets out.

We set another date for saturday. (he was actually helping me to get more time.)

Mate, you have to pull the trigger. You're trying to rationalize why you didn't do it. It looks like she was pretty much into you...don't wait for logistics or the right time to kiss. There's never a better time than when she's enjoying herself and positive emotions are flowing through her body. If you do too much comfort and you telegraph that you want her, but you're not kissing her when you're too inches away from each other, she's not only losing attraction, but you're getting more and more in the friend zone. Don't forget, physicality is the only thing that separates a friend from a boyfriend. Force yourself to lounge for make outs when you think she's attracted, you'll advance your interactions much faster and you'll reduce your chances of getting in the LJBF zone.

FlaiR

A lttle Sad romance story follow up

Saturday night, we meet up for predrink. got a bit more escalation after predrink.
one of the girls forgot her ID, we went with her.
(funny part, the other girl was into Jason but he's not, he ask us all to help out the girl in order to isolate us from them. girls can play games some times XD)

So I got about 5 minutes alone with her, (again should have kiss here.) Did some talking and play with her hand.

So we went to Chez Serge, on the way there, we start talk about sexual experiences.

Arrive at Chez Serge, Janador was there waiting for us, introduce him to the group. However, I didnt know that Jason's friend was comming too... So make it umbalanced. 4 guys/3girls.

Did alot of sexual escalation between mech. bull rides. She is into me. All I need now is to find logistic. My way out would be the taxi. since we are 7 cant go all into the same taxi.

This is where all go wrong, Jason's friend didnt go into the taxi with the 2 other girls make it balance, me and Janador was going in one but the friend stay with us...(major fail there)
We bounce to Jason's place again, bring her and her friends to the hotel. since there is no logistic, I made out with her in front of her friends. Game Over.

I texted her : " That was a good fairy tale but with a sad ending."
She texted me " Dont need to be end like this, see me tomorrow morning."

Next day, around 9am, we made a date before she goes away, she told me to call her when I go to Toronto.

Pretty sad story after all.

That a good point, but this one, I know she was down for sex by constant kino complience test,(I was feeling her ass out during the dance floor and she took my hands on saturday) but the only thing is I was too chicken to try to bounce her without a valid excuses. Think too much about her friends.

Daygame Practice

So a lot of my wings told me that they dont have time for daygame. Here is a good way for doing daygame. Chat up some girls your way home or your way to work, just for 30 minutes.

Date: 14 Aug
Location: Subway/Street
Member: Me

I open about 5 sets and got 2 numbers and 1 fb.

First one, she was a gorgeous girl, about HB9, walking down the street to the subway. I ran over.
Me: you are the most adorable I seen in my entire day,
She giggle
HB9: thx you.
Me: you know most people dont really care about their looks in the day time, you definitifly look like some one who work in fashion or something like that related.
HB9: actually, I'm a history student.
exchange name then transition to McGill university and talk about Florida, where she comes from.
NC.
Then keep talking till I got the subway station

Second one, She was walking beside me inside the subway, had a cool tatoo on the arm, a Z with weird stuff around it.
Me: scuse me, I know this is random but I'm really curious about your Tattoo, why a Z?
She explain to me
Me: the way how you explain it makes you a art student from UQAM.
HBRedHead: I'm actually an art student from another city but just move to mtl for UQAM.
Exchange some cool stories about art and improv classes.
NC her for sunday improv.
Third one, I got into the metro. a cute girl with a tattoo on her leg.
Me: who is the man on your leg?
HB: what?
Me: your tattoo!
She laugh, tell me about it. Turn out to be a legendary country singer.
Talk abit about going back to school and about psycology. She had to get off, we exchange fb since the conversation was only 5 minutes.

Maybe not every day is going to be like this one but, if I do 30 minutes every day on my way home. The chance of getting a date on the weekend is pretty good.

The Gay Pride

Date: 19 Aug
Location: Streets
Members: Janador and me

Last day of the gay pride, I had a really busy week and I just wake up around 15h. Call up my wing Janador and we hit the street near the gay village.

Awsome adventure, He start to warm up by talking to 2 cute chicks near a bar. And ofcurse, I'm more rubbish so I open a gay couple XD
Talk a bit about their country and the guy start to ask if I was gay or bi curious, LOL.
We went into the main event, the outside rave.

As we going in, we open pretty much every one around us just for fun.
We end up with a group of french girls (one HB7 and 2 HB 7.5) that Janador open with hand of god.

We nc close them after about 15 minutes of interection about different school system in Quebec vs France and some tease about the girls IQ.
A group of guys join us. We start to turn the game into entourage, We close the guys too. Invite all 7 of them to clubing with us next weeks.

I open a mixte sets, 2 girls ( about both HB 7) and ... their dad XD
I open with a dance move, pretty simple, H5 spine and dance abit with one of the girls will Janador talk to the father, we start to switch back and forth with the father, about 10 minutes into the sets, I try to bounce them, refuse, and I NC instead for again, clubing next week. Use a small routine from AFC adam, 3x kiss routine, kiss the cheeks then a small kiss on the lips.

Still had the fun vibe going on, Janador open a single blonde HB8.5 sitting alone. I open a mixte sets again, just casual conversation while he finish his set.

Later on that night, we stay with a group of lesbian girls and use them as preselection and close random group of girls off the street for entourage.

I collect 12 numbers but how many of them will actually turn good, I really dont know but had alot of fun doing it.

Keep my skills sharp.

The Improv Class Incident

Date: 19 aug

I been to an improv class for over 2 months now. Every Sunday, I go there. Have some good friends there and there is a girl that from north carolina that I been slowly gaming for a bit, not anything serious just small conversation and a bit of casual teasing.

Today is her last day in Montreal, since I havent got a chance to date her yet. I wanted an instant date with her and maybe kiss her.
After our class, I will as always chat her up for a bit. In order to isolate her from the others, I ask her to go outside cause it quiet cold inside. We went outside, I start to qualify her in several things. I can almost fell that she is into me, I just grab her hand in the middle of the conversation and try to kiss, ofcurse that a fail attempt.

Me: I'm so sorry for that, sometime I do crazy things. But I do like to see you again, anyway to keep in touch?

Exchange e-mails and she was about to go back inside for the feedback session.
I grab her hand again.

Me: you know what, let go on a small walk, I promess I wont try to kiss rape you again XD

(I know I was miss calibrate but since I went direct there is no going back)

She was the shy type so took me a bit more times to bounce her.

We went down to the old port, in front of a beautiful view of the Montreal city. We were talking about Irish culture, and I start to spine her and ask her to do a river dance. Got a bit more of comfort and escalation, I finally kiss her.

Later on my wing Janador ask me :
Heart, why did you do that, there is no point chasing her, you could not lay her. Why wasting time on a dead set?

I honest dont know but what I do know is that I wanted to kiss her that night and I did. I just dont want to be that guy who told himself that he could do it all night long but didnt took any action.

Marry Me !!

Date: 20 Aug
Member: Janador and me
Location: Street

So once again, me and Janador hit the street for some fun. We did a couple sets around Radio Lounge and Janador even got some insane make out with an HB8.

But the highlight of the night was the "marry me" routine (credit AFC Adam)

The routine is very simple, you see a girl you like, you stop them and get on your knees, pull out a ring and ask to marry one of them. Your wingman arrive (high energy) and take over the cockblocks and act as the priest.
He marry you and the girl. You put the ring on the girl and kiss her on the cheek and on the lips if she give you IOI.

So we were about to leave to go home after the club. I saw 2 sets texting.
Me: Hey, team text, What up!
The blonde girl start to laugh at it but her friend ignore us.
Me: Are you ok blondie or you just had a little bit too much?
Her: A little bit, were you at Upstairs too?
hook into the sets.
Janador jump in with some weird comment.
I change the frame.
Me: He'S really a funny guy, we do improv and stand-up comedy together.
Janador jump in with another joke.
The blonde girl got some IOI with Janador.
I start to talk to the other girl, a latino girl. about HB7.5
Me: I havent done this for a while but, would you marry me. I love you!
Get on my knees, and take her hand.
She said yes, Janador, start to act like the priest and married us together.
I kiss her 2 times on the cheeks and a small kiss on the lips. Had some fun talking with them later but didnt NC them, simply tell them to hangout with us this weekend at cafe campus.