are pua's latent homosexuals?



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:47 am 
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its possible isn't it?

either that or they have commitment or intimacy issues, no?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:51 am 
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Well, unlike you, most of them still lay women...so I'd have to disagree with the gayness from intimacy issues....Most of the "latent puas" I know don't frequent gay bars for polite conversation Mr. Ruffas!


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Well, unlike you, most of them still lay women...so I'd have to disagree with the gayness from intimacy issues....Most of the "latent puas" I know don't frequent gay bars for polite conversation Mr. Ruffas!
lol. maybe they are kidding themselves. maybe when they are inside the warm, wet female hole they are imagining the hotness of a man's anus and just havent admitted it to themselves.


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You might be onto something there....Judith Butler wrote about gender melancholia, and how we come to identify with the gender that is forbidden to us. Men identify as men because we are forbidden from desiring them, and there is a sort of melancholia experienced over that loss. We can't even be sad over the fact that we're forbidden from this, because our society constructs gender and sexuality such that it was never even an option in the first place.
Freud himself was a pretty misogynistic guy, but he also suggested that there was a lot of tension and ambiguity when it comes to gender identity. Men identify as men because they fear their fathers; they both identify with, and hate, the object of "man" at the same time, while they love/desire the object of "woman" while, at the same time, disavowing woman as a source of identity.

Basically, a lot of psychoanalytic theories (which I see a lot of semi-conscious threads of in some PUA material) suggest that we all have a love-hate relationship with both genders.


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lol. maybe they are kidding themselves. maybe when they are inside the warm, wet female hole they are imagining the hotness of a man's anus and just havent admitted it to themselves.
I disagree, I know If I've ever resorted to a stand off in frame control on occasions just to fend off some AMOG asshole from preying on me and my target, it was never a case of I was playing hard to get, because I 'secretly wanted him' that's for sure.

I take charge of the situation and make my newly founded female friend, work for me and make him kindly piss off.

I'm pretty confident if any pua out there ever wanted to know what the 'hotness of an anus' is like (if they haven't done it already) they could get it from their female counterpart.

I've got nothing against men who decide on an alternate lifestyle choice, they are entitled to it and I respect that, I wouldn't still be friends with a guy I know if I was that shallow and hung-up on it.

Rest assured as long as their advances aren't aimed at me or interfering with my game, I really couldn't give a shit.


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Rest assured as long as their advances aren't aimed at me or interfering with my game, I really couldn't give a shit.
What if their advances are aimed at you, what is your reaction then? (Seriously curious, not trying to antagonize here)


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What if their advances are aimed at you, what is your reaction then? (Seriously curious, not trying to antagonize here)
No worries, I see it as a genuine question, I'm just comfortable with my sexuality and in my own skin.

It’s only ever happened to me in one specific scenario, when I took the above mentioned friend to a gay scene so he could 'come out the closet' I was there purely as emotional support with a couple other female friends.

If a random guy came up to me I just maintained my frame and explained why I was there and deflected saying that I was there for my friend and proceeded to introduce them both (almost like merging sets).

This part is on speculation, but if this happened in a scenario where I wasn’t expecting approaches from men and I didn't have that deflection I needed, I would just let him know where he stands (politely) and state your orientation and that you’re not interested. If that doesn’t get the message across, then start freezing him out (turn your back on him) unless he is persistent that would probably be enough.

If that didn't do it and he starts to reinitiate, I'd kick it up a gear an be a little less subtle, give him a ‘fake’ compliance test such as an empty glass or non valuable item to and say something like “here, hold this for me” and again go into your freeze out again, unless he genuinely has no clue what is going on (unlikely, as this is social awkwardness building by this point) this should give him the message.


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What if their advances are aimed at you, what is your reaction then? (Seriously curious, not trying to antagonize here)
No worries, I see it as a genuine question, I'm just comfortable with my sexuality and in my own skin.

It’s only ever happened to me in one specific scenario, when I took the above mentioned friend to a gay scene so he could 'come out the closet' I was there purely as emotional support with a couple other female friends.
If a random guy came up to me I just maintained my frame and explained why I was there and deflected saying that I was there for my friend and proceeded to introduce them both (almost like merging sets).

This part is on speculation, but if this happened in a scenario where I wasn’t expecting approaches from men and I didn't have that deflection I needed, I would just let him know where he stands (politely) and state your orientation and that you’re not interested. If that doesn’t get the message across, then start freezing him out (turn your back on him) unless he is persistent that would probably be enough.
this is all very well, but my point being -what if your homosexuality is 'latent'. that is, it's there but you're just not conscious of it...yet.

you might very well have convinced yourself and others that you went to a gay bar as emotional support but what if unconsciously you went because deep down your homosexuality was trying to get you to 'come out of the closet'...?

as for freezing out unwanted attention from a male admirer, wouldnt he be justified into thinking you were just shit testing him?


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What if their advances are aimed at you, what is your reaction then? (Seriously curious, not trying to antagonize here)
No worries, I see it as a genuine question, I'm just comfortable with my sexuality and in my own skin.

It’s only ever happened to me in one specific scenario, when I took the above mentioned friend to a gay scene so he could 'come out the closet' I was there purely as emotional support with a couple other female friends.
If a random guy came up to me I just maintained my frame and explained why I was there and deflected saying that I was there for my friend and proceeded to introduce them both (almost like merging sets).

This part is on speculation, but if this happened in a scenario where I wasn’t expecting approaches from men and I didn't have that deflection I needed, I would just let him know where he stands (politely) and state your orientation and that you’re not interested. If that doesn’t get the message across, then start freezing him out (turn your back on him) unless he is persistent that would probably be enough.
this is all very well, but my point being -what if your homosexuality is 'latent'. that is, it's there but you're just not conscious of it...yet.

you might very well have convinced yourself and others that you went to a gay bar as emotional support but what if unconsciously you went because deep down your homosexuality was trying to get you to 'come out of the closet'...?
I appreciate your question but I genuinely have no better answer to give you other than I know realistically in my current mindset that it just would never happen - as said before I'm comfortable with my own sexuality.

That being said, I also wouldn’t be giving out advice on how I would handle and disarm an approach from a guy without going all AFC about it such being verbally offensive to him or resorting to violence. I also wouldn't be posting any advice on this site if it was something I’d actually be unwilling to do myself – Again, this has never happened to me in a regular everyday scenario as I purposely put myself in that situation for the sake of my friend, but I also told my friend I wouldn't be willing to do that again in a hurry as I was extremely bored, but he appreciated what I did for him.

I didn't have a lot to talk about when I was there without story telling (which in turn I'd be DHV myself) so I avoided it.

Later that night we all went to the regular strip where all our usual clubs are and the night picked up for me.

The female form is desirable to me and I want a larger ratio of high calibre women in my life, I make no apologies or excuses for that - It’s the whole reason why I joined this site.

Literally a few months ago, if somebody pointed out one of the best looking women in the room and told me I actually had a chance with her I'd have laughed in their face, now with the coaching of the PUA community I know that this is certainly obtainable if you apply yourself correctly.


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