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i dont usually vouch for anybody but but i can for steve jabba i used to hang around with him years ago hes a cool guy

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Dude, I watched some of your videos on YouTube. I do have to say your style is incredibly direct borderline creepy.

I have a question or two.

What is the success rate with this? As in how girls would you close (Number or kiss or fuck) on a typical night out with your approach?

Thing is, I imagine a lot of women will be turned off by your over-directness and call it creepy. I'm not judging, just curious, because, fuck, if I said what you say to women in the way you say it, I imagine a lot of them would turn me down (and I'm not bad looking).

You say what you feel in the moment, your intention is absolutely clear. I like that, but the way you say it, I would never say it like that, or even some of the stuff you say. Seriously, I would never have imagined this to work on a consistent basis with a high success rate. But I don't know you. I can only perceive you through these videos.

I like directness, but I don't want to come across creepy. And I feel your style can turn a lot of women off. Is it true or am I mistaken?


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Steve, you are very direct in your approach and i don't think i could be as direct as you are, but i like the fact you have the confidence to just walk up and be that direct. it is amazing to watch, keep up the good work buddy!

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Dude, I watched some of your videos on YouTube. I do have to say your style is incredibly direct borderline creepy.

I have a question or two.

What is the success rate with this? As in how girls would you close (Number or kiss or fuck) on a typical night out with your approach?

Thing is, I imagine a lot of women will be turned off by your over-directness and call it creepy. I'm not judging, just curious, because, fuck, if I said what you say to women in the way you say it, I imagine a lot of them would turn me down (and I'm not bad looking).

You say what you feel in the moment, your intention is absolutely clear. I like that, but the way you say it, I would never say it like that, or even some of the stuff you say. Seriously, I would never have imagined this to work on a consistent basis with a high success rate. But I don't know you. I can only perceive you through these videos.

I like directness, but I don't want to come across creepy. And I feel your style can turn a lot of women off. Is it true or am I mistaken?
You are completely mistaken

Re nightgame ratio : usually between 1-3. I dont count. Guys who are successful with women dont.

I have never been called creepy.

Read up some some of the stuff I have posted on my website. You will begin to understand more I think.

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Fillipino Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNxZJKieCMg

Why you should be honest and authentic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq_fKQEbrw

Dominance and leading (no sound, sorry but you can see from the BL and vibe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inY4P2C4KUA

Russian Girl Pickup - self amusement (not dancing monkey)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCNPf2BNGI

Approaching women at underground station

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SenydNYKHWo
:oops: :oops: sTEVE YOU'rE my new hero.

I would train with you but I'm in NEw yORK.

planning on coming to NYC anytime soon>?

are you willing to critique in-field videos?

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Fillipino Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNxZJKieCMg

Why you should be honest and authentic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq_fKQEbrw

Dominance and leading (no sound, sorry but you can see from the BL and vibe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inY4P2C4KUA

Russian Girl Pickup - self amusement (not dancing monkey)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCNPf2BNGI

Approaching women at underground station

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SenydNYKHWo
:oops: :oops: sTEVE YOU'rE my new hero.

I would train with you but I'm in NEw yORK.

planning on coming to NYC anytime soon>?

are you willing to critique in-field videos?
I will have to think about training in New York. I've had some other enquiries about NYC too. Infact my current girlfriend is coming to NYC in 2 days time for fashion week so i'll have a think about it :-)

I don't really critique other people's stuff, no :(

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Dude, I watched some of your videos on YouTube. I do have to say your style is incredibly direct borderline creepy.

I have a question or two.

What is the success rate with this? As in how girls would you close (Number or kiss or fuck) on a typical night out with your approach?

Thing is, I imagine a lot of women will be turned off by your over-directness and call it creepy. I'm not judging, just curious, because, fuck, if I said what you say to women in the way you say it, I imagine a lot of them would turn me down (and I'm not bad looking).

You say what you feel in the moment, your intention is absolutely clear. I like that, but the way you say it, I would never say it like that, or even some of the stuff you say. Seriously, I would never have imagined this to work on a consistent basis with a high success rate. But I don't know you. I can only perceive you through these videos.

I like directness, but I don't want to come across creepy. And I feel your style can turn a lot of women off. Is it true or am I mistaken?
You are completely mistaken

Re nightgame ratio : usually between 1-3. I dont count. Guys who are successful with women dont.

I have never been called creepy.

Read up some some of the stuff I have posted on my website. You will begin to understand more I think.
I don't think you look creepy in your videos but creepy people normally don't have any idea they are being creepy or they wouldn't be creepy in most cases. I also don't know how regularly the word creepy is used in the UK to refer to men in comparison to the US where it is said just to get guys away sometimes.

Tr@veler the space is different in London because people are use to being close together, rural people are known for needing more space to be comfortable than people from big cities like New York City. I very much doubt that he would be able to stand as close to woman where I am and have as much success, he would be called creepy with regularity off of his space unless it was night game. In London however that wouldn't be nearly as intrusive, a little tension building but not overbearing. Always take the body language guidelines into consideration when reading it or you could misconstrue it.

Steve seems to know what he is doing no doubt, I never questioned his skills just how would it help the less physical looking fortunate. He seems to read women pretty well, better than most. I'm hoping to find someone who starts conversations with a bit more naturalness, where they are just walking beside them on a street and before you know it a bull blown pick up happened. Not stop and talk. I've gotten women to introduce themselves while walking down the street bsing but I haven't found anyone who had kind of a system for that style.


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Dude, I watched some of your videos on YouTube. I do have to say your style is incredibly direct borderline creepy.

I have a question or two.

What is the success rate with this? As in how girls would you close (Number or kiss or fuck) on a typical night out with your approach?

Thing is, I imagine a lot of women will be turned off by your over-directness and call it creepy. I'm not judging, just curious, because, fuck, if I said what you say to women in the way you say it, I imagine a lot of them would turn me down (and I'm not bad looking).

You say what you feel in the moment, your intention is absolutely clear. I like that, but the way you say it, I would never say it like that, or even some of the stuff you say. Seriously, I would never have imagined this to work on a consistent basis with a high success rate. But I don't know you. I can only perceive you through these videos.

I like directness, but I don't want to come across creepy. And I feel your style can turn a lot of women off. Is it true or am I mistaken?
You are completely mistaken

Re nightgame ratio : usually between 1-3. I dont count. Guys who are successful with women dont.

I have never been called creepy.

Read up some some of the stuff I have posted on my website. You will begin to understand more I think.
I don't think you look creepy in your videos but creepy people normally don't have any idea they are being creepy or they wouldn't be creepy in most cases. I also don't know how regularly the word creepy is used in the UK to refer to men in comparison to the US where it is said just to get guys away sometimes.

Tr@veler the space is different in London because people are use to being close together, rural people are known for needing more space to be comfortable than people from big cities like New York City. I very much doubt that he would be able to stand as close to woman where I am and have as much success, he would be called creepy with regularity off of his space unless it was night game. In London however that wouldn't be nearly as intrusive, a little tension building but not overbearing. Always take the body language guidelines into consideration when reading it or you could misconstrue it.

Steve seems to know what he is doing no doubt, I never questioned his skills just how would it help the less physical looking fortunate. He seems to read women pretty well, better than most. I'm hoping to find someone who starts conversations with a bit more naturalness, where they are just walking beside them on a street and before you know it a bull blown pick up happened. Not stop and talk. I've gotten women to introduce themselves while walking down the street bsing but I haven't found anyone who had kind of a system for that style.


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Stop criticising something you don't understand. Also stop KJing away. Every time I visit a new forum I have to deal with this kind of nonsense.

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You are completely mistaken

Re nightgame ratio : usually between 1-3. I dont count. Guys who are successful with women dont.

I have never been called creepy.

Read up some some of the stuff I have posted on my website. You will begin to understand more I think.
I don't think you look creepy in your videos but creepy people normally don't have any idea they are being creepy or they wouldn't be creepy in most cases. I also don't know how regularly the word creepy is used in the UK to refer to men in comparison to the US where it is said just to get guys away sometimes.

Tr@veler the space is different in London because people are use to being close together, rural people are known for needing more space to be comfortable than people from big cities like New York City. I very much doubt that he would be able to stand as close to woman where I am and have as much success, he would be called creepy with regularity off of his space unless it was night game. In London however that wouldn't be nearly as intrusive, a little tension building but not overbearing. Always take the body language guidelines into consideration when reading it or you could misconstrue it.

Steve seems to know what he is doing no doubt, I never questioned his skills just how would it help the less physical looking fortunate. He seems to read women pretty well, better than most. I'm hoping to find someone who starts conversations with a bit more naturalness, where they are just walking beside them on a street and before you know it a bull blown pick up happened. Not stop and talk. I've gotten women to introduce themselves while walking down the street bsing but I haven't found anyone who had kind of a system for that style.


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Stop criticising something you don't understand. Also stop KJing away. Every
time I visit a new forum I have to deal with this kind of nonsense.

I was defending you dude. I said you weren't creepy.... I'm not sure I understand how this was against you. I was explaining to Tr@veler about the space and how it's different depending on where you are, yes you standing that close where I live would be too close but in other areas like NYC it's not too bad.

I even said you knew what you were doing. I wasn't at all putting you down so I don't know what your malfunction is. I was mentioning a couple of things about creepy because yes most guys have no idea they are creepy and I don't know how often the word Creepy is used in the UK. In the US a lot of women just throw around the word creepy to get guys away from them.

I apologize if it seemed negative but I said that you know what you were doing and gauging women well. I mentioned my earlier argument in case someone mentioned my previous statements I made against you. It's how I kill arguments before they happen.

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good videos and shit, this is how it's done, standard


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good videos and shit, this is how it's done, standard
Gracias Pumpington

I shall have to upload some more soon

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This is how I do my day game. DIRECT and straight to the point.

I get physical right off the bat when I approach though, and that works for me.

All these guys saying it's too direct, or creepy... you guys obviously don't go out much.


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Yes definitely

this is what a good approach looks like, or something similar


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I've added all my PUA Videos (with explanation) here

http://www.authenticpua.com/pua-videos/

I'm going to have to make some more soon!

I'm going to do a week long secret footage product I think and show how it should be done!


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