Just so you guys don't think that Top contributor and Way of the Player columnist Eddie Fews has deserted you all.

I feel that since the admins have not gone to the effort to inform you, I will inform you now, provided that this post like my last one is not deleted.

Honestly guys, if you are going to ban someone very popular and helpful, at least have the balls to let everyone know that you are doing it, rather than just brushing it under the carpet and trying to make it look like they just quit.

Eddie Fews was banned for advertising his services on this forum, despite the fact that everytime we log on here we are flooded with adverts from Adam Lyons, who I have never seen contribute to this forum, the whole time I have been a member, which as you can see, is a very long time.

Why is it that someone who contributes nothing has the right to advertise, yet someone else who is a recognized industry professional who has helped countless guys for free is not allowed to modestly inform people that he offers a coaching service?

This is bullcrap. Is this forum really about bringing PUA's together, or just about lining Adam Lyons' pockets. I thought that this forum had some integrity but I was wrong, obviously everyone is just here to make you rich and the admins couldn't care less about the guys on here.

You people know who you are and you disgust me. You are frauds and you know it. so you take down natural guys with more talent than you could ever hope to have. Shame on you.

If you are reading this and know of Eddie Fews, then let your complaints be known to the admins before the Adam Lyons' Goons take this down.

I really couldn't care less whether I am banned as a result of this. I am done helping pieces of PUA sh*t profit off the naiive and hopeful.

Eddie Fews was the real deal.

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I've seen several times that Eddie Fews did not follow forum rules on advertising. He has been warned countless times but the guy just kept at it and ignored the rules. To be fair, a website like this has to be maintained and hosted. Those activities cost money.

If Gambler, Adam Lyons, Sinn and Carlos Xuma pay for advertisements so most of us can enjoy this website for free, then those guys are helping the small guys as well-- like Eddie Fews. If Eddie wants to earn money from his coaching service, he has to pay the business costs too like Gambler, Adam Lyons, Sinn and Carlos Xuma. That's only just and fair for those who pay to keep this website up and running.

Anyway, Eddie Fews got a fanbase from this forum. It's just the way it is. It's only just and fair in my opinion.

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Eddie Fews Has been helpful in the past and has really great advise and material. It only hurts this community that hes been banned. HOWEVER. Like the mod said Fair is fair and the rules are in place for a reason. It costs money to run this site and keep it free for all of us. You need to understand that AFC adam and the other guys are a business and support this site through generating revenue for it. You cant think of them in the same way or compare them to Eddie. Does not matter if they contribute or not they are busy running a business. They generate $$$ that helps all of us more than any advice eddie or any one single person can give.

I do have one piece of advice for the mods of this however.

Why not add a section to the forums for the little guys under the commercial section.
Maybe even charge a small fee to create a new post there....

This would solve the problem of people not have a place to offer services AND generate some revenue at the same time.

There is a section but it doesn't get many visits, why go pay for info when it's offered free here. It's the commercial section of the forum at the bottom.... So he was just using this for marketing.

I've been talked to about it to and I don't coach or sell anything, I was just offering links to my blog so people could understand the info I've written. All of my info is free and if I can keep it that way I'd love it, so it's not as if I was out to make a profit. Trust me Eddie deserved his ban if they banned him, they are very understanding and forgiving or a good chunk of us forum members would be banned (me included).

I find it funny that Eddie Fews is considered one of the top contributors on the forum, I've been here for 5 years never noticed him. I guess he didn't matter that much to me, I'm not saying Eddie didn't give a lot here but you guys should feel upset with Eddie not the mods on this one. He was the one out of line, it's expensive to keep this site running lots of info goes on and off here.

Eddie was being disrespectful to the forum not vice verse so I'd hope all of you would be more understanding with them.

Peace and Love

Vic

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I should also mention for those of you who are like "who the f*ck is Eddie Fews?"

Up until recently his handle was "Fuze" and if you have been on here in the last two years I have no doubt you would be familiar with that name.

For those of you who are saying that they need to advertise in order to keep the site running, I have news for you.

I am a web developer by trade and it does not cost anywhere near as much as most people think it does to run a website. In fact a basic forum site like this could be literally run for less than $200 a year, it's not like a car or aeroplane which needs to be serviced and maintained reguarly by a team of engineers.

All it takes is someone with a bit of web know how and once it's set up, (provided it was set up properly) it's set for life as long as they keep paying the hosting bills, which as I have stated above, is not a lot at all.

This forum is a cash cow for Adam Lyons and his buddies and I think that it is utter crap that they source a great deal of their business from here yet they contribute nothing substantial, asides from sleazy pop-ups and adverts trying to get people to buy their cr*p.

At least Eddie Fews gave something back and proved himself as a knowledgable and generous facet within this community. If anyone on here is in doubt about the awesomeness of this guy then just Google "Eddie Fews" and see for yourself why this community is at a loss with him gone.

Eddie Fews was banned for one reason. He was a threat to the passive income stream of Adam Lyons and co. Because no rational person is going to get help from the smiling snake oil salesmen staring down at us from the header when there are men like Eddie Fews with proven results offering their experience and guidance for free.

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it's understandable that you are upset, as eddie was probably generating a considerable amount of your traffic to your website by marketing it on this forum, but that is not what this forum is for, and if the owners of the website would like to put adds up for people that pay to market their products on this website, that is their concern

this has been previously discussed before, eddie has been given multiple chances, and he was a great contributor as well as a stand up guy, but there are only so many warnings you can get for the same thing before you get banned, if you would like to use the site for marketing purposes, then get in contact with the site owner, as the forum rules state

7. No advertising without explicit permission from the site owner .

if you would like to join the forum in order to repeatedly break the rules, you will be subject to a forum ban, regardless of your contribution, you are accountable for your own actions

now you have been previously asked to address your concerns with this issue to pm, please do so from now on

What I've got a huge problem with is the stupid fucking emails I get by being a member of this forum.

They read like a multi-level-marketing pitch. I mean seriously Adam Lyons, what the fuck? You're awesome at selling your dick to women but you make sales pitches like some cheesy door-door cleaning supply salesman?

My bad thought it costed more to run it regardless your issue with it is redundant, you sign up for a forum and agree to rules, he had the option to run it.

Go start your own forum if you wish and advertise all you want. Yes I do know Fuze that name I definitely know none the less if you are warned why get upset when the punishment takes place?

The argument is moot correct?

I wish he would have merely corrected his behavior always good to have intelligent forum posters but at the same time how often should one be warned before their behavior is excessive? Honestly at my work as a manager I fire you on the fourth offense. It's not my problem if you have a family my heart goes out to them but I'm not doing them or me any favors by being ok with poor behaviors. I feel the same about a forum ban, why should he be allowed to advertise for his business on the forums?

If others pay is it fair that he doesn't have to? It's horrible to take this personally when in reality his ban was incredibly justified as per forum rules.

Peace and Love

Vic

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I guess I had a wrong notion that this website is more than basic with lots of content and page visits. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pick-up-artist-forum.com#

According to URL spy this website is getting something like 567 thousand monthly page visits, http://urlspy.co.uk/www.pick-up-artist-forum.com

Yes, a basic website certainly costs less than $200 for basic hosting services. But I think a website like this (with huge volumes of content and page visits) requires a dedicated server which certainly costs much more.

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When someone is given multiple warnings and they choose to ignore them, they have chosen to leave they site.


I for one miss Eddie, although our philosophies in regards to early relationship theory (or pickup) did not run a parallel, none the less he was a solid contributor and am deeply saddened by HIS choice to leave the forum.


Being that it was a choice he made and a was conducted in an unethical manner, we see no point in airing the impertinence of unscrupulous behavior by an otherwise respected member of the community and am saddened by your choice to publicize the misconduct of a highly respected member (former) of this forum.


Perhaps in the future Eddie will see the damaging nature of his behavior and will pay the members of this community a gesture of atonement.


I would ask that any further concerns for members that have gotten themselves banned to please be done by PM to the moderator's out of respect the to the banned members.


Thank you

Vitamin-J

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You should be banned for the stupid crap you espoused. Everything you say is a joke.

What a steamy load of verbose sanctimonious crap you just dropped.

Replies like this will get you banned. Please read the forum rules before posting again.

I'm locking this thread because everything worth saying has been said. Both sides have expressed their views, and any further communication regarding the subject can be handled via PM.

Your boy,
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