Andersonn's path to Demonic Confidence



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Day 14 mission:

For today's mission I have to approach 30 women and get their phone number to invite them for a coffee sometime in the future. I must not lie about myself (such as: i'm new in town, want to meet some people.), she will be going on the date with me. After I get her phone number I must delete it (or throw it away if it's on paper).


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Day 14 COMPLETE(2nd try):


Yesterday I only did 5 approaches out of 30 needed...the day went aweful. Again I started late and I cared way too much about the outcome. I thought about what I should say...how can I make her give me her number (what that clearly wasn't the mission objective), she I maybe compliment her after I say hi? When do I tell her my name? How do I ask her out for coffee? And other such bullshit...

However today I managed to get into the right frame. I just didn't give a single fuck. I didn't care if she gives me her number or not (i'll delete it anyway), i'm a great guy (her loss, i'm just offering her an oportunity to meet me and I don't have time to waste).

I started early...and I barely managed to make 4 approaches (in a few hours...truth be told it was indeed early and not that many people on the street).
Then, as I was talking on the phone with a friend I see a girl (hb9, I was expecting her to say no way), I end the conversation with my friend and think I should go anyway:
me-Hi, i'm Anderson (initially she didn't want to shake hands)
me-Wow...you're cold...
her:-What's this about? What do you want?
me:-I just saw you passing by, I was talking to a friend on the phone. I ended the conversation and came over to talk to you, I would of regretted it all day if I didn't at least get your name
her:(shakes my hand and tells me her name)
me:-I'd like to take you out for coffee one of these days
her:-Wow...you're really direct
Me:-Well..you know...life's short
Her:-I don't even know you...(ASD; anti slut defence)
Me:-That's why we're going out for coffee.
Her:-Hmmm...
Me:-Here's how we're going to do it: you give me your phone number and when I call you if you feel like it you answer and we go, if you don't feel like it that's ok too. If you're not having fun and you want to leave while we're heaving coffee that's fine too, anyway that's what I'm going to do.
Her:(when she heard that I'm willing to just walk out of a date in the middle of it if it's going badly) -Kind of rough...

I take my phone out and give it to her to put her number it, then asks me to call her so she has my number. I told her "I hope you won't be calling me all day now" (I can't remember what she said, something like "don't worry about it"). We said goodbye and I moved the the next approach.

Balance(or..what's the word?Summary?):
-30 approaches, 9 phone number (it could of been 11 but I failed 2 at shit tests (especially the age one...maybe you guys can help), ALL OF THEM ARE GIRLS THAT I'D DEFINETLY WANT TO FUCK (mission selection criterion), 7 of them being girls that I considred up until today to be out of my league.

This is an approach that I failed at shit test:
Same opener, she was a bit cold and I tried to make her to tell me her name
Me:-I ran all the way here to talk to you, you can at least tell me your name
Her:You were going this way anyway
(can't remember what else we said)
Me:-I should get some points for coming over at least
Her:-Nah...you were really going the same way
Me:-No really, how many guys came over like this to you today? (here I tryed to underline the fact that I had the balls to approach her sincerily etc.)
Her:(hesitates, of course it's not ok to say you're not approached)-...you're right, today nobody
I convince her to give me her number, when I pull the phone out she asks me how old I am:
I tried to be slick and make a joke(that would make her think about sex):-Don't worry about it i'm legal....you can drink coffee with me legally.
She then changed her mind saying that i'm too young (I can't remember if I told her my age, anyway I said 20 or 21 (2 times I lied and said 21 instead of 20...I forgot about it for a second, other then that no lies all day).

Another sticking point -help-:
A few girls(about 2) asked me why I would have felt bad all day (or regretted) that I didn't approach them so I explained it to them (in different words probably, but the ideea is the same): if I see a girl that I like I can't just look at her and let her pass by, I need to go to her and try (I just have to know, I can't ask myself "What if?"). She needs to tell me YES or NO (I can't remember if I said that to her); then none of them gave me their numbers...Did I do something wrong or 2 girls it's way to low number to draw such conclusion.


Advice for newbies: Always, always and I mean ALWAYS push every interaction to it's conclusion (until she leaves); you never know: I could of missed about 2 numbers because I assumed she will say no. One of them refused to even tell me her name then she gave me her number even thought I asked for her number saying "i wanted to ask you out for coffee but since you didn't even tell me your name..." she then said YES (she said she didn't know what I wanted from her initially so she was defensive). Other girl said she had lost her phone (so I said ok, np, a good day to you too; I didn't believe her), she then said "no, no...I really want to go out of coffee, but I really lost my phone yesterday, here's my messenger ID).
"ALWAYS....ALWAYS PUSH IT EVERY INTERACTION TO IT'S CONCLUSION. ONLY CONFIRMATION YOU NEED IS THAT SHE STAYS" (60 yoc.*)


Now, looking back I probably should of told her my age and act like I don't care and it's a non-issue. What do you think I should of done?

I can gladly say that today I managed to get past a huge psychological barrier, a new world just opened to me today.

This is Anderson and I keep walking.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:27 pm 
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I've been posting also in a journal on a forum from my country and I've been busy translating and posting here too past few days...so here comes big update:


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Day 15 mission:

Today I need to approach women and invite them for coffee(or tea...), this time I can keep their numbers.

Mission is considered to be complete if one of the following happen:
-I convince one of them to go and have coffee or tea with me on the spot
-I approach 30 women and get rejected 30 times or get 30 phone numbers (or anything in between)


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Day 15 COMPLETE:

Summary (24 approaches):
-insta-date after 22 approaches
-another insta-date in a park right after 22nd approach
-4 phone numbers
-1 facebook (one "shy" girl didn't want to give me her number...but her girlfriend kept pushing her, and she told me her facebook as I was walking way), I told her girlfriend I don't play with facebook (I really don't waste my time with it)

How it went: I started approaching...not in the best state despite yesterday's succes, after 3 approaches I got a number (I wasn't 100%) and I already wasn't interested in her number, I wanted insta-date.

I gathered a few phone numbers until I approached a girl (I've only seen her from behind before I went to her...I noticed she was a milf, definetly older than me, you could tell by her face) in a group...her friend were just pushing her to say yes to insta date+number...but she really wanted to buy something from a clothes store (I approached her right at the entrace), her friends kept telling her to go right now (it's no problem for them, they don't mind etc.). She told me to wait 15 minutes. I said i'll wait for 10 maximum. Or to give me a call when she's out and if i'm still around we'll go (but she didn't ask for my number and I didn't offer to give it to her). They tried to put me in AFC frame "you'll wait for her if you really want her blah blah", I can't remember how I replyed but I handled it quite well...her friends loved me at least).

In theory the mission was complete at that moment...I just had to wait for her to come out of the shop (I didn't want to come with, I don't think I offered to come neither did she ask)...go have coffee and done. BUT I JUST COULDN'T sit and wait for her for 10 minutes like an average chump...so I decided to approach more girls as I was waiting for give her a call later on if nothing better comes along. Next approach was park insta date (I was close to a park, not in the park at that time)...she just didn't want to go for coffee...she said she has to meet a friend in the park in 30 minutes (blonde with big tits, that's how she described her friend hahaha) but she'd like to spend em with me.

So I went to park for the insta-date...talked to the chick, she was 18. I'm 20 but I look younger. When it comes to mental age i'm way older than my age, so chatting to her wasn't much fun for me, she just wasn't interesting, I made her laugh etc. (but because i'm good like that). Then i've tried something out of 60yoc (build tension), it was working somehow but I failed to escalate properly.
Soon enough her friend showed up, big tittied blonde just like she described her. Got a friend to call me to bail out, got the 18 year old's number and I bailed out.

Today's mission said that I need to approach+insta-date while maintaining a non-sexual state. It was easy with her, I just couldn't make myself feel attracted to her. Body was ok (nice ass, tits, not fat blah blah), blue eyes...face was ok (nothing special)...clean girl. It's hard to escalate if I don't get in a sexual frame. Maybe next time.


Mindset: I'm a great guy. I give you an oportunity to meet me. Whatever the outcome I won't feel bad, I just have to know.
Looking back: milf girl was probably more down to fuck than the park date. But there will be plenty of opportunities.


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Day 16 mission:


Today I need to chose 3-5 objections (or excuses why I can't approach women/why I can't be with beautiful women, from the initial list) and go to a place where women and somewhat stationary (not in a hurry to get somewhere).

Once there I need to chose one of the objections, go to a woman and ask her: "Excuse me, quick question: have you ever dated a *one of my objections).
I must not ask the question as if it were an excuse, I'm genuinely curious about her answer. I must pay attention to her answer. If they say they dated an (ugly/fat etc.) guy I need to find out why, what made them go out with such a guy; if not, I must ask them if they ever would date such a guy.

I must ask the last 10 of them to join me for a coffee sometime: (if she says yes, I dated fat guys before) -Good, so you won't say no if I invite you for a coffee this weekend.;
(if she says no, I never dated a fat guy before)-Great, so i'll be your first. Let's get a coffee this weekend, give me your number.

Today's objective is not to pick up these women.

Short description: I talk to these women about my shortcomings to see if they are really a reason for women not to date me...or they are just handicaps in my head.
Scopul acestei zile nu este sa le agat pe aceste femei.

Now...the hard part: I need to look in the list and see what excuses I have left (most of my excuses where about my irrational fear of rejection and being risible, which I surpassed). Regarding the way I look...i'm neither fat nor very short (i'm 1.73; and when I made the list I didn't think of this as a reason for women not to date me), and I only wear my glasses around the house (outside I wear contact lenses).
I'll see if I can find any objections to talk about today...


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Day nr. 16 COMPLETED(i'll consider it so):

I've only asked 10 women, but I'll consider the mission completed because:
-I had no objections that regarded my physique (short, fat, ugly, whatever.) in the initial list that I still considered valid, in fact...I'm not sure I have any objection left from the initial list that is still valid...maybe the one about fearing being ridiculous (I somewhat felt uncomfortable asking stupid questions)

Even so...I asked 10 women if:
-3; if they'd date a guy wearing glasses (even though I was wearing contact lenses): 2 of them said yes (one of them laughed and said obviously...why not), one of them said that the question seems stupid (she was right...why wouldn't she date a guy wearing glasses)...I explained to her that I wear glasses and I think they might be an impediment to me dating beautiful girls...and i'd like to know if that's true. Then her boyfriend showed up, he was wearing glasses (hahaha).
-6; if they'd date a guy shorter than them: it was kinda hard to find women taller than me...even if they were high heels, anyway it wasn't on my initial objections list (i'm 1.73 but I don't consider myself short)
-1; if she'd date an ugly guy: she gave me the obvious answer - "he can be beautiful for me". I can't say I consider myself ugly, or that this is an objection for me, especially considering last days experience.

I couldn't really ask them out for coffee with the program suggested line "Would you date a short guy? Perfect, then you won't refuse my invitation for a coffee"...because most of them were shorter than me. I wasn't wearing my glasses (I don't wear them because I like to wear sunglasses and they are uncomfortable, you can't play sports etc., soon enough i'll fix my eyesight with surgery and that will be out of the way). Regarding "ugly"...I'm not sure they'd see the connection between "Have you ever dated an ugly guy" and "Let's go out for coffee"; I just don't think i'm ugly or that they'd see me as ugly...so there was no reason to get into that mindset.

Looking back at the last day's results...I just couldn't have anymore valid objections. I understand that I can't predict how an approach will go...I was surprised many times past days...so I'm willing to approach any girl that I like.

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