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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:01 am 
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but

- SS, Nlp or OMS works in the online sarge?.. If answer is yes, how could this be done?. I think that his would be an very intersting challenge. Get all her attention by chat.

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Hypnotism however, is an awesome art and I'd very much recommend looking into it if you're going to strongly incorporate NLP into your game. Hypnotic principles are quite easy to learn and fairly simple at heart, the hard part is trying it and learning through trying (and in doing so developing your confidence that you can actually do it). The powers of hypnotism are in many ways quite unlimited, if you know how to make it work. I attended a psychology conference last year in London by the guy who taught the magician Paul McKenna. He performed hypnotic 'tricks' on the audience, including myself. Some of the things he did you just wouldn't believe unless you were there - for instance, he made himself invisible to certain people. He'd then pick up a girl from the audience and fly her across the room - the poor volunteer participants thought she was actually flying. As you can see, the art requires a lot of responsibility.

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Where can I learn some of these hypno tricks? I have been trying to learn some but I can not find anything on the net.


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I've been very interested in hypnosis and nlp for quite some time.

I just recently started self learning hypnosis and have had very good results. I'd say 8 out of 10 people I tried I have hypnotized, I just need to work on my deepeners.
I've got them to do positive and negative hallucinations.

Anyways I'm now tryin to focus on NLP, I know even though I'm not that great at Hypnosis yet lol. I just like NLP because its more under the radar.

NLP seems way more complicated to learn than hypnosis.

I got the hang of Hypnosis after a week of studing and a couple of test subjects.
Instant/Rapid Inductions are really cool lol.

My main point is one that has been covered twice in this thread already.
Getting my Ex-Gf back.

Reason being is we have a 1yr old plus I've been with her for 10yrs, so I am very attached to her.

I am learning these skills to try and win her back. (crazy I know)
Learning all this for a girl lol

We still talk and see each other she still gives me IOI's like holding hands and hugs, etc even when I brush her off.
We've been apart for about 2 and my kid lives with me.

I'm not into SS or anything like that I just want to save a family.
I also read through the whole thread, good info on it.

Also got a copy of Introducing NLP that you recommended. (wow alot of reading lol)

Any help would be great, I figure if I can somewhat learn Hypnosis I can learn NLP also.
Which is hard to learn?

Sorry for the rant, hopefully you can can sense of all this gibberish

Last thing
Hypnotic Poetry, does it really work, and can you just read it? (with feeling ofcourse lol)


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RG, I have a question. I am a rAFC, 18 years old. I have mediocre game but when I frame things well from the start, they just seem to flow effortlessly. Anyway, my question is : What is the most useful and effective tool that I can learn as a beginner ? And how best to apply it? I have seen anchoring in a few videos of other things (Derren Brown) etc but I am not aware of how to incorporate NLP into my game, without going overboard with patterns, tricky language etc. THANKS

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Also, if you could recommend the top 5 most useful books to an aspiring PUA that would be great.

I already own Frogs into Princes , I know you highly recommend Introducing NLP, what other 4 should i read?

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i just started being interested on nlp.i ll read "introducing nlp" and then some ross jeffries material. what do u think i should do next?im really passionate about this,how long would it take until i become good at this?not only for the game but also in my life like influencing people? thanks man,great topic.


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NLP is so much more than PUA, however, understanding that that is what so many people are looking for...

Books to recommend:
For language patterns:
Patterns of the Hypnotic Language of Milton H. Erickson by Richard Bandler and John Grinder
Structure of Magic Volume 1 and 2 by Richard Bandler and John Grinder
Sexual Key by JD Fuentes
Gut Impact by JD Fuentes
Persuasion Engineering by Richard Bandler

Programs that will knock your language into another level:
The Power of Conversational Hypnosis by Igor Ledochowski
The Art of Covert Hypnosis by Steve Peliari

Great Reference Books Are
The Big Book of NLP
The Language Pattern Bible
Mind Control Language Patterns

Of course there's a lot to learn, however, you can get a full working knowledge in two to three days of study, of course the more you learn, the better you'll become.

Onto Landen2009,
You want to get your girlfriend back. Take a look at Season 3 Episode 2 of Leverage, though it's fun and done in one night, it's a great showing of seeding and embeding thoughts. Blair Warren came out with a great book called The Forbidden Keys to Persuasion in which he says, "People often doubt what they are told, but never doubt what they conclude."

Your goal with regaining your girlfriend can be attained, through using your language in a way that makes her conclude that you two belong together, without you ever telling her that. Of course, there's also a way to simply soften your suggestion as well. You may want to start off now with subtle hinting to reconciliation.


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Not really PUA orientated but anyway it's all life related etc:

I am looking for a pattern that can be used to enhance sports performance at a coaching level.

Just a small one that can be repeated as a motivational type of pre-game pattern that will be effective.

Thanks.


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