Hi guys,

There is a playette type girl (age 19) that hit on me, out of the blue. I caught her
interest (she was checking me for a month now), and she did confess me all these.

I tried to bust her balls (a lot), she is a hot girl, that has the attention of many guys.
Also, I did try a lot of NEG and she tried to return some of the negs to me..

Vin Di Carlo is quite right with her character. She has her walls up, she is being really
hurt in the past and now she is not let herself be attached with any man (me too).

I tried to friendzone her BUT i didn't work that much, she considered it as a "rejection" ..

Now, she is cold ...

Any ideas for a playette and how we can turn the game?

stop playing so hard into it, I assume it is just a young flirty girl with options,

you gotta realize, that it is not as complicated as these books make it out to be, use some common sense, if a girl shows interest in you, she is already chasing, to keep it up, just don't let her think you are fully sold on her, also don't use negs when you don't understand why to use them

a girl showing interest in you is almost the absolute worst time to neg, think of this from a classical conditioning point of view, if you punish good behavior, you will discourage it, if you reward the behavior, you will encourage it

when you are negging, you do so when a girl is acting like she is better then you (not giving attention), or when she is being rude (not giving her approval/breaking the rapport), the only point of a neg is to get a girl that is not reacting to you, to start reacting to you, it is not a magical technique that makes girls fall in love with you, if you are going by the mystery method, you will have more luck with some funny/interesting dhv stories then you will with negs if you already have the girls attention, especially if you don't quite understand frame control yet

not only that but you said you were negging alot, did you know mystery actually says in his own book, not to neg more then 3x and it is only meant for when you are at the very start of a social interaction and only to be used on girls with high self esteem (hb7+), also, negs are not insults, they are disqualifiers, if you are insulting a girl, then you have the wrong idea

next time a girl shows interest in you, just say thank you, then ask her some questions about herself and show some interest back in her (as a person, not nessicarily in her looks), then start building compliance (donno how? check out chiefs guide to outer game posted in the pua lounge *stickied*), she gives you the green light, you move forward, she gives you the red light, you move backwards, maybe even tease her about it and try again later

if she is responding well to you, and you are seeing ioi's this means progress sexually not break rapport on her, that is uncalibrated, don't get stuck in a validation loop of it never being enough either, seriously, just assume she is attracted to you from the start, if she is comfortable time to get that kiss on the go, check compliance and trust yourself

and when dealing with female players, your best bet is to game them as normal and don't be weird (incongruent), but have other options (more girls) or a life that is full of other things, they just want a guy that is different then the rest, don't fall in love, treat her like a bratty little sister that you can hit on and tease, but don't go too far with the teasing to the point it becomes insulting, it should be fun to hang out with you, not annoying, and kiss the girl before it is too late, show her you got a dick and actually know how to use it (figratively speaking of coarse, before literally)

Thanks for your reply..

Well, with "negs", I mostly mean teasing & playfull filrting, not insulting.

As about common sense, you are right, I already had her chasing me, and after
that is my duty to step up things.

She is a sweet beautiful lady, and I didn't want to compliment her like all the others,
so I tried the other way around.

But, as far as I can see, her most difficult issue may be to trust someone, so she
opens herself.

We did had some drinks with her friends, but I can see she is resisting to be alone with
me, even from the very start. Just staying cautious with me, to figure out what kind of person
I am..

dude, you don't compliment, and neither do all the others, here is a social experiment, go out during the day, give a random girl an honest genuine serious compliment, then ask her how many times a guy has just stopped her in the street to let her know he found her attractive, you can bet it is less then 10 times for her whole life

the majority of men can't even open a woman, let alone show their intentions, unless you are talking old ass experienced men who are way past their prime and now super comfortable with themselves and over confident, the majority of guys just meet girls through social circles or work and are just introduced by some chance that the ice is broken, and they escalate at the rate of a slug race, on average most are needy and indirect, and the times girls are most likely to actually recieve some honest interest are from drunk guys in a setting involving drugs or alcohol and often they can smell neediness off the guy from a mile away and he has been going around giving the same drunken compliment to every girl he meets

that shit just doesn't happen (or at least I don't ever see it)

the best compliment game you will see from most average guys that are not drunk or high is just cat calls, or some guy kissing a girls ass without rhyme or reason, or some guy letting a girl know his intentions but turning it into a joke, instead of just being serious and honest

but you have to balance the push, with the pull, you can't be all push (she will assosiate dis-interest and negative emotions with you), and you can't be all pull (she will find you needy and desperate)

and when showing interest, you don't want to be expecting some sort of reaction, just express yourself and move on, you are not waiting for her to give you the go ahead or agree with you and drop to her knees, you just compliment her cause it is true, change the subject and move on, consitantly teasing and complimenting her and getting to know her, this is often refered to as flirting

if you are doing the mystery method, a2 transitions to a3 after 3 ioi's man, you start to qualify instead of dis-qualify, that can seriously be in like one minute, you show interest in her for the qualities you fish out of her, you ask her questions about herself and tell her you like her for those reasons, that's right, you heard correct, you let her know why she is ''qualified'', you compliment her, you show interest

Good advice,

You were right for this playette, she acts like a little brat girl, seeking for attention
and validation. She has many orbiters, and she make them think they ll have sex,
BUT they are already in the "no sex zone" (for ever).

I can hardly make a date with her, just trying to act uninterested, like i don't really
care...sometimes it works, she acts jealous and angry with herself (not me).

A girl friend of hers told me that her "secret" is to bust her balls and uppear unpredi
ctable..

But, anyway, her way to "chase me" didn't caught my interest and i didn't find it
really honest...she just enjoying playing games with men and seeking attention
one way or another.

Any more "specific" ideas would be helpful, so I can enjoy the game like she does,
And if anything good comes up with this girl would be cool.

I have an idea...MEET MORE GIRLS.

Still associate with her as a friend if you will, but have other women in her life. You don't have time for her games(or maybe you do). Instead of trying to enjoy the game like her, enjoy YOUR OWN game. Go out start meeting and hanging out with other women. Don't pay her any mind, she is a young girl. I am 19 myself and i know how girls my age are(that's why i usually date older women). Most girls my age date older guys. Younger girls feel like they have options because they are youthful, and they probably get a lot of attention from guys, probably more older than their same age range.

So you just need to have the abundance attitude with this one, and don't play into it to much.


Sluggler

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Hi Sluggler,

Yes, she already confessed to me what she is looking for, if she says the truth.
She is looking for a guy, older than 28 years old, (i'm 29 she knows it).

Also, I believe the ultimate tool to "seduce" a playette is to appear uninsterested
in her sexually, but keep contact at the same time...And yes, the jealous weapon
works really well with this girl, she is taking this as a rejection and then she is
losing coolness with herself so she "runs" to you for your attention, to boost her
ego again.

Also, playing hard to get with her, is a real kick ass ...as I figured so far.
Well, I never enjoyed playing games with people, and when someome plays games
is because she/he wants to give you pain she/he tasted in the past from someone.

Exactly..So appear uninterested in her sexual and show her you have a life full of women and you don't NEED her like most of the guys she is probably dealing with.

I wouldn't give it much thought man. The way to get a Playette is to be a Playa yourself.

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Show your DHV´s and demonstrate interest or disinterest by quality her. If she is interested to you and don´t demonstrate interrest to you or chase then you have to maker feel that she might lose you for another girl. Show you masculinity that you have a lot of energy and you can lead and frame control people, make plans with your friends and stay busy too a lot of your value can increse or decrese by your social proof.

Can't really listen to what she says she wants. Women are unpredictable and go w/ their feelings. If you MAKE HER FEEL attracted to you at a certain time, she will go with that feeling etc. As the other poster said, meet more women. She will definitely feel your nonchalant attitude and that she is in the presence of a guy who has many options. Mix this in with telling her she reminds you of a bratty little sister and you may have a winning combo.