So my sticking point would definitely be kiss closing at the end of a date. I always feel so awkward considering I have a car and am usually the one picking them up. I drop them off at the end of the night, the date has usually gone really well but i freeze up when it comes to kissing them goodnight, it feels so weird to stretch my body over to her side of the car and lean in for it. I realize that I should kiss the girl earlier on in the night to get it over with and build comfort but how can i go about doing this? Does anyone have any routines or methods they use in order to establish that first kiss with a girl?

Thanks in advance, Flair

The short answer would be: Kino.

My long answer would be:

I would strongly encourage you to try and find your answer first on the forums before posting.

I see you are new here, by which I assume you don't have a lot of experience in the game / in field.
That is perfectly fine and I hope this forum can help you with the steps necessary to succesful game, but I also hope you do understand that if you don't take the time to invest some energy yourself you will be stuck forever.

This is a sticky point a lot of members will have, or have had, so I'm sure it is covered all around the board

Game on!

~Phate

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Ive read the game and im currently reading a bunch of SlyWalker's stuff on here which i find is very useful, hes quite the MPUA. So today i was with a girl and after we went on small hike to a waterfall and played my variation of 21 questions to build a little bit of comfort, we went back to my place for lunch and a movie (I should probably add that this is my second time with the girl, the first time we went for coffee and a walk and i choked on the kiss close). So my tv is in my bedroom which forced us to lie there and we started to cuddle a bit. She tried tickling me but im not ticklish so i tickled her back and she is. I told her "that's now two things im better than you at" and when she asked what the second one was i told her kissing (Since she told me she was a 9/10 kisser during 21 questions), since i happen to be a 10. She kinda sarcastically said "oh yeah?" and i replied with "yep, here ill show you" at which point i kissed her and we began making out. Througout the rest of the movie we made out a bit and felt each other up a bit but she had alot of LMR as i couldn't really get in her pants without her moving my hand... Although i got her topless for a bit. Maybe this will be my new sticking point... lol transitioning from make outs to F-Close.

Any suggestions?

for a nervous/shy girl this:

you: are you nervous?
her: yes
you: why?
her: not sure..
you: let's solve the problem
her: how?
you: close your eyes
*she does*
*you kiss her*

not sure how repeatable it is, but if you are at your place or hers, having dinner, and you have good vibes, the right IOIs, this worked for me, and is still memorable (J and I re-enact the scene sometimes):

wet your finger in the glass, and throw water at her.
she throws water back.
you start a water fight.
get closer to her as you do this (you're not threatening, you're playing the game, should help prevent ASD)
when you're close enough, lock your eyes into hers. her look will give you the green light.
kiss her.

it requires compliance from the girl, in that she has to play along. another girl I tried this with just shielded herself and did not throw water back.

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Wow, those are actually some pretty useful tips, thanks bro!

If a date is going well enough that you can kiss her at the end, then you should be kissing her during the date! Once you have a little KINO and IOIs from the girl you should start breaking her personal space often. If you are in a loud place, pull her into you and then move slowly like you will kiss her but instead whisper something in her ear. Doing this will increase sexual tension!

I typically project the kiss like a woman wants a man to do.

Peace...

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