Hi guys!

I am in a very complicated and emotional situation. I really need the help of well experienced persons in relationship.

Firstly I would like to introduce myself. I am a 21 years old French guy. To be honest I am not used to have problems with girls, I have a pretty good looking and I am a cool guy. May I ask you to be indulgent with my English ?

Now I would like to introduce my target. She is a 23 years old Mexican cute chick from the federal district of Mexico. She has very powerful facial expressions (she can get all she wants by smiling) and she is quite smart. She is very mysterious and I am almost sure that she isn’t herself always. She is the kind of girl who can have a specific behavior intelligently depending on the situation in order to get what she wants. I think she has a boyfriend (but I’m not sure that it’s serious, she never talked me about him).

The relation I have with her. We communicate without any problem in Spanish. She is the first girl that I felt love with since I left high school. I met her when I was in Chile (she studies there) at the beginning of the year.

What occurred in Chile? When I was in Chile she was dating a guy that she didn’t like so much. When I was with her she was hugging me a lot and I was really feeling that there was an attraction. One day I was in her bed, we spent hour talking and kinoing the I tried to kiss her and she refused coldly which surprised me a lot and got annoyed (I supposed that it was because of this guy).

The actual situation. I went to study to mexico to another city that the Federal District. I took a 6 hour ride to go to see her and be with her for Christmas (she came back to mexico until February). I’ll live the Mexico DF the 25 of December. I am with her superprotective family (Mexican old school style). I’m sleeping in a room far from hers in the house. She doesn’t have cel phone. Her parents are always watching over her.
What happened today ? Hugs, touches, a lot of IDI from her part and I might have felt jealousy, not sure. She really likes me and enjoy my presence but each time I grab her leg or her hips she doesn’t get closer. I’m kinda stuck in the C1 level.

What do I expect ? To have at least a kiss because I hate to be refused. Problem : I will spend christmas with her and I am scared to ruin it if she refuses to kiss me one more time..

What could I do tomorrow ? Do I try to kiss her anyway ? Do I reveal my love again, thing that I already did by mail and verbally ? Do I wait ? I rally love her and I’m totally lost 
Thank you a lot for your help. …

sounds like you have one-itis on your part and it sounds like maybe you are in her "lets just be friends zone". time and time again i have chased women like this without results. this is why i got into pua lifestyle. you dont do any of the chasing. she does it. there is a problem that a lot of guys get caught up in. they get wrapped around one girl and do so much for this one girl and the girl doesnt have any input. all this means to her is that you are a nice guy and she enjoys you as a friend. my guess (based on this little information) is that she doesnt feel the same way towards you.

here are your options (and i have done this many times in the past so i know where this can go):

1. keep chasing her until one day you realize you are wasting your time or she ends up telling you to back off or she completely starts to ignore you

2. you can completely ignore her. she may come back to talk to you because you guys are just friends but if you ignore her, you will get over her the fastests and you can grow in your life and not be held down.

or

3. (your best option) is to give her some space to herself and realize that she is not the only woman in the world. if you continue your pattern, you will just be drained emotionally because you give her so much and she doesnt give any in return. she doesnt feel the attraction. go after other girls and treat her as you would any friend. if she responds to you negatively, then respond to her negatively. if she gives you good responses, then give her good responses. if she gives you something emotionally (like drives hours to see you) then give her something emotionally (like take her to dinner). its a big game of tug of war. right now you are losing because you just give her so much of your time and energy and she hasnt earned it. its nice at first for her but eventually it will get boring because it is so easy. keep your ground and go about your life and if she really is interested, she will pursue you.

good luck with you buddy. this may sound a bit harsh but it is what i have found out in my life. i have been in your boat for soooo many years and eventually i just got tired of wasting my time, energy, and money. i hope you can take my advice or figure this out on your own sooner rather than later because it really gets depressing if you continue down your road.

i wish you well and let us know how things turn out!

~lucid

lols the fact you joined a forum of pick up artists for advice is evidence enough that you have oneitis. To be honest she seems horrid, and to you she probly seems like an angel. I see absolutely no attractive qualities there.

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'Oh my, you sir are the Moriarty of self awareness and personnal refelection'

What a title!

Normally I do not respond to 'This girl' kindof questions but since you took the time to write an easy to read post, I will answer it.
You fucked up here.... How many times? Don't answer that, more than one time was to many. One time, in your situation, was to many regardless of how you feel.

In a relation type of interaction with a girl, NEVER give more than them, Ever!!!!!.

Stop trying to get physical with her. The first time you tried to kiss her and she rebuffed it, you should have waited until she kissed you. She knows how you feel (Way to much) and would have kissed you when she wanted to. (I know how that sounds but wait)

Summation of right now.

You are at her parents house hanging out with her. You will be there for another three days? Do you leave on christmas day?

Here is what she is thinking. (Maybe)

You are a puppy dog. Cute, cudley, and willing to lavish her in attention. She enjoys it because no one else is around. There is no spark. What ever attraction she felt for you is either gone or declining.

Right up front, it is going to be hard as hell to get you where you need to be in two days. The techniques needed can easily turn her into thinking you're an asshole.

It really depends on her but you probably will not be able to provide the information needed to determine it.

You need to be playfull with her. Make fun of her. Give her a fun, playfull, hard time. But you still need to kino her (touching her) to let her know you still feel the same.

You are not in C1. You need to be in A2.
You will have to wait until Feb to get that kiss. Who knows, you may be able to get her back to attration and she will kiss you. Do not count on it though.

Next time, remember, NEVER give more than them, Ever!!!!!.

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

Hi guys,
I wrote this post at 5 a.m coming back from a party with this girl and her old college friends. I have been really honest; the few beers I took helped me a little bit. I was fucking tired so that I didn’t really give you all the details. It’s 11:30 and I have just read your responses. It’s the first time I write in a forum and I really appreciated your comments.

You might think that my post isn’t really appropriated to that forum. I am a pure newbie in seduction. I just read the game, the mystery method and sexcode during the last 3 weeks and I thought about applying some tricks I learned to get this girl during my time here. When I told you that I love her, that’s true but not entirely. I am captivated. I know that I’ll come back to my city and I’ll see and have sex with other girls (here in Mexico that’s not heroic, girls are easy…Except her). She will be totally out of my mind in a week but still, she is the one I preferred during the last 2 years of my life. In fact, I am sure that if I have sex with her (I wouldn’t bet my life on that), I will totally forget her once I come back home and I’ll feel more than satisfied. I haven’t any oneitis, I just feel her resistance and complexity very very attractive. I have already realized that her physical are not the things that make me feel like that, it’s just her behavior…shit ! she really put me a spell 

Firstly I will clarify the way I tried to play the game. I would appreciate all your comments and please tell me what I did wrong. Since I read those books I am eager for experience and I really want to improve myself.

- First day : I arrived to Mexico city at about 8p.m, I met her parents and her syster. She was happy to see me (I hope she wasn’t acting it, as I told you she’s a good actress). I was really talkative, I showed them that I have a strong personality and I try to relax everyone. I think I did it well. I didn’t pay the so much attention to the girl and she was trying to get it. We went to dinner with her parents…I followed acting like this. I showed her parents that I am well educated and cultured. (may be too much, she might have thought I’m a nerd, what do you think ?). We came back home, I asked her if she wanted to see a movie with me. She accepted but her mother ordered her to go to bed (she is 23 or 24, welcome to mexico). Still, I noticed she was upset and she made me understand that she wanted to be with me. It was maybe the only possibility I had.

- Second day (yesterday) : We went out alone to visit the city. She took my hand first in a queue. I was thinking that everything was going right. I was using negs and I wasn’t at her foot, I think I passed well the A2 and A3. I think I was on the right road, I made her jealous sendind messages to other girls and other stuffs like that that I learned in the books. We keep touching each other for some hours (arms, leg, and hand in the pocket of the other) until we both got borred of this game I think. Since that moment, I was loosing her. We came back home and I felt we were going to the “let be just friends” state. 2 hours later, we went to that party (I decided to stay alone while waiting to leave). We arrived at the party, I didn’t know anyone of course and started I being cool with everybody. Everything was going very well, I was having 5 girls around myself who were laughing loudly all the time, she was in another set and she started being jealous of a girl who gave me her number. I thought I won her again. Then, I don’t know what happened, I started being bored and I think she saw it. She was having fun with her friends that she didn’t see for years (photos, dancing….you know) and she totally forgot me. At this time I think that I did a big bullshit. I told her that I she has a banal physic but that I am fascinated by her behavior and the way the talk (that’s what I called I told here I love her yesterday). However I admit I told her that I love her by mail some months ago when I was in Chile…I think she forgot it…Well, since then, nothing more…she started being very very cold with me. A little bit later, a fucking guy asked her in front of me if we were mates, she told him : “we are just friends”, she became a bit nervious and said “Are interested by him”. I didn’t respond anything. We came back home and stayed quiet during the ride, she was thinking in something else, I don’t what.

I still have today and tomorrow to do something. she’s arriving, I have to go eat with them, I come back in half an hour to finish.

I have to leave now, I think I told almost everything. I will try to ignore her as you guy says.

Anyway, I'll told you how the things are going.

Thanks

It's Not A bIg DeaL !!!!!!! but a hard mission !