So I met this amazing, yet older woman about 3 weeks ago. She is 26 I am 22.
We have so much in common, life goals, marriage, hobbies, etc.... I never met a woman like this before, she isn't a bimbo either! She isn't a air head, she isn't on her phone when I am trying to talk to her.

What happen?
We went on two dates, one of those dates I cooked a duck for her, she wanted to learn and I showed her how. She really enjoyed it. We had a great time on both dates. We spent about 12 hours together on those two dates.

She went out of town for 2 weeks for family issues, I told her to call me when she gets back and shes been back for at least a week now, no call...

Problem is she has loads of male friends, (red flags) she says she feeds a bunch of people, and people "bum" off her.

A lot of "not going anywhere" male friends in her life, some guy is like 29 and still in college, not working/no car. Etc...
Problem is they stay the night at her place!!! she even has female friends do this also. I do not think she is sleeping with them, because she said she "isnt like that".

The problem is I am so attracted to her as a person, we click and so much in common. I would like to keep this going but she never called me back. My #1 rule is to DTB a woman if she doesn't call. So I havn't called and isn't worth my time if she wont.

IOI would tell me she would call me back and really wanted to see me again.


Why do women do this? someone special like this, common interests and doesn't call back?

I know I have no money, and still in college.
I really felt like its almost a "to be thing" the way we met was unbelieveable. I wasn't supposed to be where I was that night as I was supposed to be somewhere else but played bouncer insted with a friend of mine, she was just standing near us and we got to talking.. I didn't use game or anything..

was there any physical escalation on either of those dates? if not, she might think you are young, unable to go for what you want, and basically friend-zone material.

as for the guys sleeping over, it seems weird that she told you.. some kind of shit test probably. how did you react?

you say you clicked. I know the feeling. problem is, it has to be mutual. did she click with you as much as you did with her? apparently not, since she is not missing you.

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"It's disrespectful not to bang them when they sleepover." (Hellhound)

She had one friend over when I cooked the duck, because the night before she had a big house group party from a lot of her friends, even her sister/female friends where there. etc... I was sorta invited but didn't say either way. No physical stuff, I didn't push any of that. I was being a nice guy.. She is very independant[so am I] she has her own business etc... I didn't mind the guy there, he was way older and didn't sound like pontinental for her. He's like 3 years away from finishing school/no job.

Yes we both clicked the same amount.


Attraction wasn't a choice with this one, we went to dinner the first night we met, she gave me her number with no problems. She did give a first sh** test right away when at dinner. About some other woman was she cute with x hair style etc...

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It is not AA that scares me or affects me anymore, its leading a conversation forward and keeping her interested. AA is nothing.

Nice guys don't get laid.

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nice guys don't get laid
"It's disrespectful not to bang them when they sleepover." (Hellhound)

yes no physical = your a homo.

your connection was real and it clouded your mind, you were hesitant to push for it because you thought youd fuck it up with her but look where it got you now

let me make this clear, youd have better chances if the following took place: while cooking the duck, you took her hand and led her inside, once inside you proceede to lead her into your bedroom telling her you gotta show her something, once inside you pull your dick out make sure she sees it and throw her on your bed. again, youd have better chances doing that compared to what youve done and hey by the time ur done fucking her youd have her budy already cook for you three but instead of that youve got a sad mans life to live for a month, you live you learn.

just fyi i always noticed that older women are more hesitant of young guys and you need better game to overcome their doubt of you

So, she never called back. Just DTB?

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It is not AA that scares me or affects me anymore, its leading a conversation forward and keeping her interested. AA is nothing.

im sure you want to procedee with this girl and i would encourage it you wont lose anything its a valuable experience and hey you never know she mite give you another chance who knows. ive been in your situation before and i pushed till very end just to learn and try...but if you continue with her your very likely to get hurt its a slipery slope from here so whats important to you not getting hurt or a learning experience and just seeing what would happen.

bear in mind that if you dont become very needy you are likely to see her again one day and redeem yourself later in life, but if you become very needy and supplicating you will burn the bridge and there will be no hope in the near future.

my word of wisdom to you, let her go, next time you see her at a club make her jealous than roll up on her and be a complete scum bag looking for nothing but sex, seriously thats wwhat id do.

Please remember if you go down that puppy dog and ice creams route then that's what she will see you as. A nice guy to talk about puppy dogs and ice cream. Meanwhile she's out getting used probably physically and financially. That's what she likes.

So be that.

In some cases, it has nothing to do with you. Out of town for family issues? And then doesn't call? Sounds like ex boyfriend threatened suicide and now she's back with him.

Who knows what the reason actually is. Just look in your mirror and realize that you are good money and you are the prize. And she didn't win the prize.

the only thing missing from those dates was a chaperone and a church revival meeting.

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!