CLIFFS:
-seen girl around for around 5 months, always thought she was hot
-didn't really make effort to speak (thinking that would make her more interested in me seeing as though literally EVERY guy was trying to get in there)
-seems to have worked, in the last month she starts talking to me, flirty conversations, friends say she doesn't even make an effort to talk to them
-friends say she's looking my way every 5 secs one particular night

-party a few days ago, we kiss at a bar then i go back to my boys and don't see her til later (in the meantime she apparently started crying to her ex lol wut)
-see her later on and we kiss/talk for hours/go back to hers
-we get under the sheets and put a DVD on, kissing the majority of the time
-she smiles and says "i'm not gonna sleep with you"
-mind is full of fuk - she was smiling so idk if she was joking or not
-I smile back and say "i'm not gonna force you into anything"
-decide not to make too much of a move because it's nearing early morning hours and i have to get back
-also decide not to advance sexually because she doesn't seem over her ex/i feel i need to gain her trust because of that AND i don't want to fuk things up, been wanting to get with her for a while
-she kisses me at the door and i make my way home

Now I was a little drunk/tired and not thinking so straight but now I realise her saying she wasn't gonna sleep with me was just ASD and I should have kept on escalating.

Is it possible to recover? Things weren't awkward when we spoke in person a couple of days after and she texted me out of boredom before.

I'm pretty sure I can recover because all of the IOI's of her being into me are there. Should I initiate a meet up or just wait until the end of the week when we'll both be at a bar and see if I can get her to one of our houses?

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I'm not sure you have to 'recover' from anything. To recover would make it seem like you lost and you're looking to reclaim something. I think she's still open for ESCALATION.

If she didn't tell you to fuck off, then... GAME ON still.

Initiate a meetup by telling her, (NOT asking) her to join you for a coffee, drink, a walk, something.

Something like, "hey listen, since you're super cute and I'm fuckin awesome, I thought I'd invite you to join my awesomeness for a drink. Cancel ALL your plans and Come join me." Something like that. This was off the cuff.

Could you see yourself shooting her a text like that?

Really what I needed to hear and reassuring lol, thanks.

Would you say inviting her out on a random weekday evening would be better than waiting to see her at the bar? I guess it would make things easier seeing as though it would be most likely just us 2 and none of her friends etc. to encourage LMR. Or would inviting her to my house in the daytime if I have it free be better? (18, we both live with our parents)

What do you think? Other suggestions greatly appreciated too!

Yeah... invite her out ASAP. Why? B/c by this weekend she could have "forgotten" the feelings you've made her feel. Since you're still "fresh" in her brain, strike NOW while the iron is hot/warm.

I try to push for a meetup ASAP, whenever you meet a girl. Texts should be limited to about 10, up to AND including sex. Don't get caught up in being the guy that sends 1000 texts. Send a few and let it be KNOWN that you thinks she's sexy and that she's going to WANT to hang out with you. NO DINNER, NO MOVIES!

Be a bit cocky. They like it!

is 2 days ok? It's a little late now and we'll both be at this performance thing tomorrow.

Yeah, 2 days will have to suffice.

Just don't wait til' the weekend is what I'd suggest.

Get more phone numbers in the mean time.

ok would you suggest i avoid her tomorrow if possible? that means in a few days i could text something like "i know you missed my company yesterday so cancel this evening's plans and join me for a drink"?

If you like her why avoid her? You could send that text (did you miss me) to her IMMEDIATELY after you see her the next time.

I know some guys don't want to "seem" too interested, it's just that SOMETIMES you NEED to show you're interested. The SUPER hot chicks I might not let them know I like them. 99% of all girls aren't SUPER hot, so it's OK to let them know you think she's sexy, cute, etc..

If you see her and don't have time to talk, go high-five her, smack her ass, smile and walk away. ESCALATE ESCALATE ESCALATE.

invited her out yesterday and we met up, went to a bar and met some friends there.

similar story, on the way back we were making out for hours/enjoying each others company.

i came up with a decent excuse to go back to her house (plausible deniability) but she said not tonight (she had to go in to campus to pick some work up early in the morning). as things got more heated, i.e. conversation got a little dirtier and making out got more intense i suggested i go back again but she was serious.

hopefully it's going to be 3rd time lucky because this is the 2nd time things have heated up now to no avail, i realise i could have gone for it first time however.

thoughts?

bump

The only thing i can say to you at this point is, if she says no, DON'T beg for it!

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You gotta escalate and make her want it. One step forward, two steps back. She's obviously down to hook up, you just need to disable any ASD and make her unable to resist. And use Mystery's techniques for getting rejected in bed/LMR. Tell her YOU won't sleep with HER. When she tries to slow things down, tell HER it's a good idea. If she tries to slow things down, slow them down ever further yourself. I've been in this position, and it's frustrating, but with girls like this, after them rejecting me and me spending the night not phased by the rejection, we almost always have sex the next morning. Just keep at it.

Well said. Good luck dude.

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