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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:48 am 
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This is my first field report to date. I have been on the forums for a days and I cant thank every enough for all the advice and information that they have shared. Thank you.

Now my report includes briefly a friend and wing of mine who I will call Martini (my suggestion for his screen name) for the purposes of the report.

Background- Friends birthday starting at a pub where I did some "warming up" then moving onto a club.

Nitty Gritty- As part of the newbie mission I have been trying approaches. At the bar there was a set of two girls a blonde 7-8 and a brunette 6. Martini made bar talk with the brunette and I took the opprotunity to move around to the blonde. Paying spe ial attention to my voice and my body language I used an opinion opener; about how my friends had been teasing me over drinking vodka and cokes. I gave time restraint and got her talking about what she thinks. At this point I believe she shit tested me by talking about some guy friends that were with her and what they think about different drinks. I smiled and said I can relate to that with my current predicament and moved on. I now used a routine Martini and I came up with regarding white watches and a fake backstory about how we had both been approached by the same guy at different times who propositioned us. Getting her opinion on the matter and making her laugh in the mean time. It all ended with me pulling up my shirt sleeve, and showing a concealed second white watch and me saying "so if one watch indicates possible homosexuality what does this mean?" she replied with "Oh no one watch means gay buy two means straight" I laughed and replied with you just earned 10 cool points there we can definetly be friends now. At this point her body language changed and she turned her body to face me and leant in IOIs I believe. I started fluffing about how she knows the other girl and what she does before finding out her age which she congratulated me on jokily. I replied by using some ESP and guessing numbers she was thinking of. The main word being thinking but she said it outloud I negged her about jumping the gun and getting to excited. I got the scond number wrong but laughed it of and making the comment that Derren Brown taught me wrong. She commented " your brain is better then your magic" I replied with a simple thank you. At this point her friend (Martini hadnt done so well) wanted to go. She tried to drag the girl I was speaking to away but she resisted and said her friend wants me to go but she hopes she sees me again in the night. She told me her name was Kate and asked me mine before I said it was a pleasure to meet her and could I have a kiss on the cheek which she happily gave me and left.

In conclusion the white watch story worked excellently (I can post in more detail if wanted)

Afterwards I regret not speaking to her friend, although I tried to make some bridges the bitch shield was strong with that one. How would I go about ridding it and getting her on side? Change of position or negging?

Im not sure if the time was right to ask for a #close? How do I know when to ask?

Thanks for your time and any advice would be warmly welcomed.

-Masterstroke


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:44 am 
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Nice post Masterstroke, well laid out and fun to read. Sounds like you had a good night mate.

Sounds like your game with Kate was pretty solid man: use of your own openers and routines, false time constraint, DHV with an amusing routine (you might have to elaborate on that white watch routine mate - it was epic and I might steal it lol :) ), and you showed that you weren't intimidated by her by being the one to hand out the cool points to her. All in all, nice work. Congrats man.

Now for the sticking points. A bitchy friend is really annoying if you can't win her over, and can easily block the way to more satisfying closes (kcloses and fcloses) if she's really bad. No matter what though, you should still be able to get the #close if your rapport with the target is strong enough, and I think you probably should have gone for that before Kate got dragged away.

Asking for her number is, obviously, a pretty huge IOI on your part, so you have to be careful with when you do it. If she's about to be dragged off for reasons other than disinterest, it's best to just go for it then, in case you don't see her again and you lose her. This isn't ideal though. In my (limited) experience, I think the best time to ask for her number is in the middle of a conversation that is genuinely interesting. If she has just given you a pretty big IOI, reward her with your huge #close IOI, saying that you guys have so much to talk about, and in case you don't finish tonight, you'd like to know you can meet again sometime. If you do this with confidence, and then go back to what you were doing before when she's done, I think this generally feels pretty natural. Another small point is that a command sometimes bypasses the social conditioning that makes her freeze when someone simply asks for her number. What I do is hand her my phone with 'new contact' selected, and say "Here, stick your details in there so we can continue this another time." or something to that effect. That works well if she's just made you laugh a lot actually. :)

As for disarming the obstacle, I find it's often helpful to run game on her as well. If she understands her friend's admiration of you, she will be less likely to stop you isolating her later, unless she is a jealous bitch. Run routines on her, and DHV as much as possible. Another bonus is that your target will see you being confident and outgoing with another girl as well as her, showing that you are well socially adjusted and that you have options. This might create jealousy in your target as well, which is probably a good thing. The other night (field report pending), I left the target for a few mins and isolated the obstacle. I made her laugh, and then whispered in her ear that I thought the target was cute, and asked if she was single. The obstacle replied that I was 'in there', and that she was going to leave the two of us alone. lol. This won't work on every obstacle though, so I was lucky. An alternative that might work (untested, though) would be to compliment the bitch on her bitchiness (fire, fiestiness etc.), thus disarming the bitch shield? I would be curious to know if anyone has tried this successfully.

Anyway, hope that helps mate. Well done again Masterstroke, and here's to many successful sarges in the future!

-Darkfield.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:16 am 
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Thanks mate, very good night I decided to go out sarging again and use some of the tips you gave me in your post. the results have been exceptional I got a #close with a blonde 6/7 I used you shock tactic on the number close. Ill be writing up my field report shortly. Thanks for your help.

Now the watch routine works with a wing.

It can be used as an opinion opener (lthough after testing it the lack of rapport already built hampers the effect) I used it as a way to build raport as shown on my field report after already opening.

Me- So I have a question, me and my friend have an idea about white watches (not sure if watch colour matters further investigation needed).
Her- okay what is it?
Me- So my friend and I (Gesture at friend for social proof) were at a bar before here and my friend was approached by a man who complimented his white watch before proceeding to talk to him for 15 minutes and ending with the phrase "Would you like to come back to my house"
Her- Wow really?
Me- Yeah strange right? anyway although my friend was flattered (Increasing his value by shwing he wasnt phased) He turned him down
Her- Okay (Or some other standard response)
M- It gets better the same man came up to me (Pause) And complimented my white watch.
Her- Your joking? (Showing interest, IOI?)
Me- No he then started flirting with me before I explained im not interested.
Her- Thats crazy I cant believe it
Me- Exactly you see where Im coming from with my assumption (Making her work for me) So what do yo think of that?
Her- I think your right...
Me- (Cut in) it gets weirder if a white watch points towards latant homosexuality then what does this mean (Pulling up sleeve and showing second white watch)

I then proceed to laugh and make a joke of it increasing my value? Its still in its early stages but so far Ive had a 2/3 success rate. If you try it out give me some info with how it went or how you changed it.

- Masterstroke


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