summary for the fast pased

- girl seems interested , i lay off for a while she asks to hang

- girl then enters " complicated relationship with guy"

- now i know some of you will say aw shes taken but cmon pickup is pickup

- i need any gold routines , info , ideas , gambits that could be suited to this
obviously your gonna be unaffected , dont acknowledge it run some value stuff

- perhaps i have entered , ljbf but even then friend zone could also be powerful here

so i talk to this girl start running a bit of game obviously i may have done something wrong so i lay off for a while slow it down , i run into her in town , i act busy maintain value quick interaction then leave , i text her later she then says we should hang , a day later facebook relation is complicated with a dude game on.

Run some BF destroyer on her! Sounds like that wall is thin anyway!

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yes but it seems impossible to be higher value then another guy shes already interested in while approaching and interacting with her

ok here are some ideas man,

1) forget the boyfriend exists, if she brings him up, just don't care, if she is using it as a wall, just use a boyfriend destroyer (there are a billion on the forum), the one that makes the most sense to me is just saying ''ok'' and forgetting she said anything, keep the frame of the interaction away from, ''two people, talking about some girls boyfriend''

2) get her alone with you, since she has a boyfriend, somewhere that she feels safe (no sexual threat) is a good place to start, it is good to have your intentions known as sexual towards her, but make the frame around the meetup non-sexual, so she has more plausible deniability to go, from that location, lead her to a more ''unsafe'' spot, don't go for approval on this one, just lead and see if the compliance is there, if it isn't she will stop you, she might test you, but don't mistake tests for non-compliance, a no is a no, a where are we going, or why are we going there is not a no, just act like it is no big deal

3) once in a spot where sex can happen, try to have sex with her (if you don't know how, making out with her is a great start), if the boyfriend pops up into her mind, then asd is an issue, lower it

-you will be discreet
-you will not judge her
-sex is no big deal
-she is important to you because of xyz (personality traits you like about her)

other then that, handle the LMR for what it is if it is there, agree and continue, progress as long as she is compliant and just ignore the tests, the more it is your fault the better, that way she can justify to her boyfriend if he finds out, OHHH IT JUST HAPPENED

GOOD LUCK

thanks dude one of the most in depth answers ive got on this forum i thank you for your effort / and help it begins to achieve the impossible