This will be a bit long... Ok, so I am going to be a senior in college, and I ran into someone my age over the summer that I went to high school with. I was playing basketball. (she wasnt good at playing) I did a tiny bit of flirting before she had to go on a run. The next day, I asked her out on facebook expecting no response. here is the convo:

June 25 ME
hey ****. Hope your run wasnt as hard to handle as basketball Good seein you. we should hang out sometime. maybe I can improve your game ....

June 25 HER
Haha yeah well you'll have to start with the basics like dribbling. It was nice running into you too. Yeah we should catch up! Just let me know when!

June 25 ME
sweeeet you free tomorrow or wed?...

June 25 HER
I live the glamorous life of a babysitter so I'm guessing I'll be done around 4 or 5 both days. Does that work?

June 26 ME
ya. I know a really good place to take a walk by my house. there's also ice cream, and coffee close by the trail. just hit me up girl! 847-530-8730...

After this she texted me, and I was able to set up a walk on a bike path to a coffee shop followed by a walk back. The date went well with good conversations and vibing. I made sure to use kino, but I probably didn't do it enough (the most I did was an arm around the shoulder and playing with her hair) at the end of the walk, we sat on a bench and I thought about going for a kiss, but I decided not too (this was probably a mistake) overall however, I thought it went well.

The next day, she was getting ready to go to vegas for 5 days, so I decided to do some flirting through text:

Me:Hey something happened today that reminded me about you...

Her:What?

Me:Well, I tried something completely new that turned out to be a mistake. But dont worry, I didnt lose my room keys of fall asleep in a club (Referring to the story she told me when she first tried pot brownies)

Her: Ha what did you do?

Me: I ate raw sushi. My stomach aint happy .

Her:Another reason Why I'll never try sushi.

Me: Hahaha ya it's pretty wierd. So how are you? Getting excited?

Her: I am but I haven't packed yet

Me: Well how long's the trip?

Her: 5 days which means I need like 20 outfits lol

Me: haha well I guess your screwed

Me: I g2g . Have a lot of fun, but not too much....

Her: Lol thanks

So 6 days later (A day after she got back) I texted her to try for a second meeting:


Me: Yo....

Her: Hey There. What's going on

Me: Nada Mucho....What's your schedule like this week? Ive got the coolest best possible thing to do.... of all time.... when your free

Her: What did you have in mind? I'm not completely sure of my schedule yet I'll find out by tomorrow

Me:Lol ok i guess youll have to wait til tomorrow let me know....

The next day was the 4th of july, and she didn't text me, so after securing a fun time at the beach that night with a group of guys and girls, I thought I should invite her to that:

Me:Hey I was joking about the best day in the world thing, but I kinda wanted to c u again. Im going to the beach with my friends 2nite, and your free to tag along

Her:I'm sorry I already have plans for tonight

Me: Alright cool but we need to hang out again.... Otherwise our relationship is over! You get the dog, and I get the kids and house >.<

It's the next day in the afternoon and she has yet to reply to me. What should my next step be? is it over? THanks abunch for reading, and thanks in advance for any replies.

Anyone got any advice?? I know its my first post but cmon!

On the first date did you supply her with any kino? If there's no sexual chemistry you're less than likely gonna get another date with her. Every time you spend time with her you have to 1up the situation otherwise it doesn't become fun and exciting for her. Light examples of kino would be grabbing her hand to cross the street DHV as the leader, footsy brushing up against each other while walking, gambits, hitting her IN A PLAYFUL MANNER, you get the idea. & based on her body language you escalate.

To answer you're question either chuck deuces or hammer it out to the bitter fucking end! till she loses your number.

I'm not gonna wish you luck because i know you can make you're own luck. Have fun!

That's a pretty good opener.

After that, overall the convo was not particularly bad, altough there was nothing special about it. You weren't needy, but you didn't really show anything that's so awesome that would make her soaking wet.
This is bad... The bold part is needy, and totally unnecessary in this text.
Spitting on the forest fire won't do much...

So let me sum it up to you:

What was good:

-The opener
-You kept your frame for quite a while
-You didn't jump through her obvious hoops
-You were pushing forward to a meet-up.

What was bad:

-There was little to no sexuality in these texts
-You did jump through her less direct hoops (like she not texting back)
-You apologised for no apparent reason
-You offered her the time of her life and then you said you were joking. wtf??
-You lost control and became needy in the end.

Italic parts are critical.

I say this one's pretty much over. You can try, but be sure to game other girls as well.(It's never a good idea to concentrate on one anyway)

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your texting has been way 2 needy in my opinion. saying u need to hang out again makes u look like your investing in her and trying to win her over (a sure way for drive her away). You texts are also 2 long... notice how short her texts are compaired to yours... she is winning the text game.... she is getting you to chase her... you need her to start texting you.

Give it a few days... i dont think youv blow yourself out just yet... but try and make a day 2 simple... nothing extravagant... and kiss the damn girl (your not in h.s. anymore). If you dont kiss close on the day2 its done.. your in the LJBF zone. Im not sure you built a lot of attraction on the day1.... make sure to do this on the day2!

GL
Duke

Thanks for all the replies. I'm gonna wait a few days to see if anything happens and take it from there

Its not over by any means, but you need to create more attraction. I suggest waiting for a day or two if she doesn't text you. Text her again, make it playful and fun, try to flirt with her. Instead of putting the the emphasis on hanging out or a date, put it on flirting and building some sort of attraction and sexual tension.

The hanging out part should come naturally, you need to give her a reason to want to hang out with you rather then just responding to your request for it. DO NOT use the words " relationship" "sorry" or anything along those lines even if you are only joking. You've already hung out with her once, so you should have a decent rapport, its all about keeping her interest now.

I'd suggest making a strong statement the next time you chat with her. Something like " hey I really enjoyed your company, I think you are beautiful woman inside and out, not only are you incredibly sexy but you have a great personality. You're the second coolest person I know

When she replies with a "thank you and asks "who is the first" you reply " me of course". This should set the tempo for a fun flirty conversation, be sure to get her talking about herself, or her interests. Then when you bring up hanging out, make it something you both want to do or that you already talked about.

It's important that you demonstrate your attraction to her before you invite her out again. It's pretty easy to find out if a girl is attracted to you even through text. All you have to do is casually start talking about kissing, petting, sexual passion, etc etc.

Be flirty and sexual with your next text convo, she will either show signs of interest or not. If she's not showing interest in the convo, it's a safe bet that she has lost interest.

Be sure to gauge her interest before you ask her out again and if you don't get the right reactions and signs from her, don't ask her out. Leave it to her to contact you next, if she doesn't it's time to move on. NEVER EVER leave the conversation with you in a needy or desperate frame.

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"sweeeet you free tomorrow or wed?"

Concerning that. I've often found that it's best to ask something like "how does your week look" or "what day would work for you", something like that. Else you run the risk of ending up in the annoying day marathon. "how's wednesday for you?" "Can't on wednesday, reason X" "How about thursday?" "Can't on thursday, reason Y" and so forth. Whereas with an open-ended inquiry to schedule usually leads to the person figuring out a day on her (or his) own.

update: Ok so after 5 days without a response, I decided to use that long opinion text. I texted her at around 7

Me:Hey! I need to ask you something that has kept me sleepless and I want you to be totally honest with me. It might be awkward between us after this but I have to know how you feel. I have kept this in my mind for a while now but I think it's finally time I'll be straight up and just confront you.... I hope this doesn't ruin the relationship we already have. I just need to know and I don't see any other way I could get over this. It wouldn't be fair on me if I don't get an answer. I want you to tell me truthfully, no matter how harsh it is. I just want your honest opinion... Do you prefer beer or liquor?

(3 hrs later)

Her: Sorry I haven't gotten back to you too much shit going on. Someone broke our house windows and dealing with a lot of police reports.

I wasn't expecting a response like that, so I decided to wait till next day. I had no idea what to reply. Finally at 1 oclock, I texted her back.

Me: Thats understandable. I deal with police all the time... People report me cus im just too irresistible

(45 min later)

Her:That has got to be one of the worst jokes I've heard.

Soooo. that was a half hour ago, and I don't know anything good to say to follow that up. I really am not sure of her interest level at this point....

Thanks for reading, and please reply!

" hey I really enjoyed your company, I think you are beautiful woman inside and out, not only are you incredibly sexy but you have a great personality. You're the second coolest person I know

When she replies with a "thank you and asks "who is the first" you reply " me of course".


IS fantastic. Im stealing it haha. i will shorten it to send via text... but still the concept is great.

Keep it casual... keep buildind the sexual attraction. you will be fine.

GL
Duke

too needy my dude... first off, dont use any emoticons... free text as u please... second, act cool, calm and collected... your coming off as too needy to a certain degree. If you are able to meet up with her again, i suggest you go hard with kino but only as hard as she complies with. Escalate and try for kiss close . be confident with it, a kiss to a girl is sort of a paradox. they label it as a big deal but subconciously it isnt. it also takes this to a new level of escalation naturally and after kiss closing her, if u have played the set well, and not come off as needy, she will b more enthusiastic with texts and notioning to to ask her to hangout. good luck mann

its not over by any means, stop texting and pick up the dam phone, talk to her about something non related to sex, whats going on in your life whats going on in her life build conversation, set up a date. Then take her, bang her then dont contact her again for a week unless she contacts you first