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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:32 am 
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Good work number closing Smooth! It looks to me like your big sticking point is really building that attraction once you start talking to them. Have you thought about the indirect approach in clubs? The direct approach doesnt seem to work to well from what I am noticing. Dont forget to pay attention to everyone in the set even when you go direct. Some of your post werent very detailed so from what I read it seemed like you were always leaving out the obstacle in the conversations. Control the frame and then go for the kills. Even though you have some sticking points I can say you have way more number closes than me but im working on social proof and networking with groups of women. You should try it with the group of women you went out with. Befriend the mother Hen. ;)
Well I primarily try to do daygame anyway and go direct. My issue is that I number close, but it's constantly a flake or I get a few text message responses, but never get them to hang out and eventually it goes cold. I need to build a better connection during my interactions, but it's not easy. It sounds like your attempting a slower method of becoming friends with the girl and work on her circle of friends. Im sure social proof works wonders, but primarily in small bar settings where everyone can see you. But I will try your method of moving a bit slower and sort of friend a girl and see if I can get her to hang out again.


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Thursday June 14, 2012
I went out to the club and managed to do numerous direct approaches. As soon as I walked upstairs I approached a two set. We managed to fluff talk for a while. I managed to get the interest of one of them and she said she'll see me inside, but I never saw her again. I feel like I should start number closing as soon as the girl tries to eject. My next approach was a two set and we talked for a while. I managed to get the interest of one of them and number closed since her friend took her from me to join her on the dance floor. My friends wanted to change scenes at this point so we went to a different bar. We know one of the bouncers there and he introduces my wingman and I to a two set. We dance with them on the dance floor. Then the girls wanted to get alcohol. I could tell the woman I was with was uninterested, but my wing's girl showed him interest. I pre-occupied the friend for a bit longer then ejected. I opened a nearby three set. We fluff talked, but I could tell it was going anywhere and ejected. I went back to the previous club and opened a two set as soon as I re-enter. We fluff talked and all of a sudden the club was closing. I just number closed and ejected, but I wasn't able to build much rapport. At my car before leaving I approach directly on a woman who was sitting in her car about to leave. We fluff talked for maybe three minutes and I tried to number close, but she said “no thank you.”

Friday June 15, 2012
I went to the mall with a friend and we tried the “GO” game that simple pick-up recommends. I gave him forty-dollars in five dollar bills and he would have to point to a woman or set and say “go” and if I did not approach he would keep a five dollar bill, but if I did approach he had to give me one of my five dollar bills back. I did the same for him. It worked well for both of us. The only issue with this game is I found him choosing women I was not really interested in, but I would just tell them I thought they we cute and moved on. We found ourselves having to almost run to catch up to some of the sets. I managed to do about seven approaches in total. I got some really good responses from some girls such as one saying “omg you just made my day.” My only really bad approach was when a woman before I could say anything to her after “excuse me” said “no thank you” and just bolted. We managed to have a good ten minute interaction with a two set, but they were uninterested in following up with us. Two of my approaches I should have number closed, but did not try to because I was creepily chasing them for the open, but they were surprisingly very flattered. I was thinking failure before doing the approach since these particular approaches appeared overbearing. So now I know it really does not matter how you approach and even if she sees you running up to her; you can still win her over. Next time we go we plan not to leave until we get at least one number close. This will force us to work on mid game even if we are uninterested in the girl since we did well with the approaching aspect of the interactions. It was definitely a fun game and a learning experience. You really never know which woman is going to be receptive to an approach so its best to just do it no matter how “creepy” the approach may come across. I look forward to playing this game again and thankfully I did not lose any money.


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Hey Smooth,

I think the idea of the "GO' is very good. You will get more motivated to approach girls. Me and my friend are going to do that once he visit town.


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Good work number closing Smooth! It looks to me like your big sticking point is really building that attraction once you start talking to them. Have you thought about the indirect approach in clubs? The direct approach doesnt seem to work to well from what I am noticing. Dont forget to pay attention to everyone in the set even when you go direct. Some of your post werent very detailed so from what I read it seemed like you were always leaving out the obstacle in the conversations. Control the frame and then go for the kills. Even though you have some sticking points I can say you have way more number closes than me but im working on social proof and networking with groups of women. You should try it with the group of women you went out with. Befriend the mother Hen. ;)
Well I primarily try to do daygame anyway and go direct. My issue is that I number close, but it's constantly a flake or I get a few text message responses, but never get them to hang out and eventually it goes cold. I need to build a better connection during my interactions, but it's not easy. It sounds like your attempting a slower method of becoming friends with the girl and work on her circle of friends. Im sure social proof works wonders, but primarily in small bar settings where everyone can see you. But I will try your method of moving a bit slower and sort of friend a girl and see if I can get her to hang out again.
I really like your daygame approach and I need to try that myself. I will admit that social proof is a way slower way of developing game but it seems to fit my style. I really need to step up my day game and do more approaches. Even numbers that are flakes are good because you are getting field experience. You are way ahead of me for sure in that aspect. I like your field reports man. You are making progress. Good luck sarging!


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I ended up going to a bar/club and with my wingman on the first approach I managed to get the two girls off of the dance floor so we could chat them up. I said something like “you girls are adorable, I had to meet you, lets go chat!” I isolate and focus on the cuter one and my buddy kept the other girl occupied. We ended up with these girls the entire night. I did some kino, but did not kiss close. She did not really resist anything I did either so I'm rather disappointed I did not escalate much more. I did manage to number close her at the end of the night.


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I have started online graduate school as of last week and this may limit the number of days I can go out for both day and night game. I feel it is still necessary for me to spend time to go out for the sole purpose of gaming to help deplete my approach anxiety. Since playing the “GO” game with my friend, I have noticed that it worked so well, I unfortunately have lost motivation to go out during the day and approach on my own. I feel the idea of doing day game alone is not as effective at eliminating approach anxiety. I am now in the process of searching for a day game wingman who will not have a conflicting schedule with mine. This way my wingman and I could go out and play the “GO” game often. We could make numerous approaches which would diminish my approach anxiety at a much more accelerated rate than if I were to go out and try to day game on my own.


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I went out with a bunch of friends and had no intentions of gaming. So I'm with one of my female friends and a man walks up to us. It was obvious that he was drunk, but he states “is this girl your girlfriend?” I tell him no and he then proceeds by asking her “where are you from?” It was just a little fluff talk then she dismissed him by saying “nice meeting you” and he stumbled off. I noticed a few things about this. The fact that he appeared drunk already put him at a disadvantage before he even said hi. When approaching, it is essential that you are confident. He also ruined his approach with boring questions and making it seem like an interview. Cold reading truly works wonders and he did none of this. He also never qualified or negged her, which could have aided his approach with respect to increasing her level of interest. I think if he would have done a few things differently I think she would have given him her number although I did not pay much attention to the indicators of interest she may have been giving him. My friend is a great woman and to think that a drunken fool almost succeeded in picking her up has motivated me to really get out on the field and work on game. I would like to completely get rid of my approach anxiety and really master picking up some of the amazing women out there in the community.


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I ended up going to a bar/club and with my wingman on the first approach I managed to get the two girls off of the dance floor so we could chat them up. I said something like “you girls are adorable, I had to meet you, lets go chat!” I isolate and focus on the cuter one and my buddy kept the other girl occupied. We ended up with these girls the entire night. I did some kino, but did not kiss close. She did not really resist anything I did either so I'm rather disappointed I did not escalate much more. I did manage to number close her at the end of the night.
Keep it up Smooth! Your getting good. I still need to get out there and make more approaches. But looks like you are getting more experience.


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Saturday July 7, 2012
I ended up at a bar/club and did not do so well. At first I chatted up a few guys to see if maybe I could recruit a wingman, but they were all drunk or weird. I am still in the process of finding someone I can introduce game to and use as a reliable day and night game wingman. I managed to make about three direct approaches inside. I was shut down on two of them, but the third one went well. Unfortunately, her drunk friend had to use the restroom and therefore she had to go and assist her. I should have just number closed at that point. I thought I would bump into her again, but did not. Whenever the set has to leave I think I will attempt to number close to prevent the issue of loss of contact with the set for the rest of the night. Outside I manage to run into a friend who was with his girlfriend and her friends. I chat them all up for a little while and I guess one of them found me attractive. I get a text from one of the girls later that night because my friend gave her my number.


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I am actually attempting to complete homework sitting in Barnes N Noble right now as I report the approach I just made. So I see this woman in the relationships section when I first enter. I walk over and say something random like “having guy troubles?” She says yes and while shes talking I pick up the book she is reading from her hand and she was a bit resistant due to embarrassment. It's a book titled “Why aren't I married yet” or something. So now she tells me she is thirty and her boyfriend is forty and they fight a lot. I was telling her it's better to talk it out than read books on relationships. I was a bit uncomfortable in this approach and did not really game her. I only teased sparingly. I probably could have gotten her on an instant date if I asked her for one and we would be talking over coffee instead of me writing this report at the moment. I did not pursue an instant date because I felt like my inexperience would have had us talking about her current boyfriend and it would have been a therapy session instead of a date. If anyone has tips on how to game a woman who is currently having troubles with her boyfriend please share. I always had the idea of “oh she's in an unhappy relationship right now, so this should be easy.” Well it was much more difficult than I originally thought.


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I went to a city I have never been out in before. One club was crowded and I managed to approach this one woman who was with her friends. I go direct and we fluff talk for a while. I used some kino and eventually I tell her to take my information. She takes my e-mail, and I leave. Out in the street a woman comments on my outfit. I manage to talk to her, but her friend steals her away before I could number close. I managed to do a few more approaches in the street, but was rejected. I am continuing on seeking a reliable wingman for day game.If anyone has any suggestions on how I can find a dependable wingman for day game please share. I would also like your thoughts on the differences between day game and night game as well as which one you find to be more efficient.


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Thursday July 19, 2012
I went to a club and the first approach was positive. I ended up with her for the majority of the night, but did not number close. I had opportunities to kiss her as well, but did not capitalize. I did use a lot of kino and teased her. We ended up on the dance floor later and I eventually lost her. I managed to approach another girl and we just fluff talked for a bit then she stated she had to go to the restroom and ejected. There was no connection therefore I did not attempt to close.

Friday July 20, 2012
I went and played the “GO” game with a fellow pick up artist at a mall. I managed to go direct and the first approach I was a bit nervous and stumbling. She basically just ejected herself immediately. He had me approach another girl who was on a bluetooth. When I stepped in front of her to open, she just ignored and walked around me. The next approach gave me her name and then told me she was in a hurry to meet with someone and ejected. The final and best approach was in a store and she was browsing in the clothing section. I go direct and she introduces herself. We fluff talk about her schooling and then I tell her I'm in a hurry and to give me her number. She stated she does not give her number out. I should have dragged this final approach a little longer and set up a future meet up before trying to close. This approach was my best opportunity as she demonstrated more indicators of interest than any of my other approaches.


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I went to a city I have never been out in before. One club was crowded and I managed to approach this one woman who was with her friends. I go direct and we fluff talk for a while. I used some kino and eventually I tell her to take my information. She takes my e-mail, and I leave. Out in the street a woman comments on my outfit. I manage to talk to her, but her friend steals her away before I could number close. I managed to do a few more approaches in the street, but was rejected. I am continuing on seeking a reliable wingman for day game.If anyone has any suggestions on how I can find a dependable wingman for day game please share. I would also like your thoughts on the differences between day game and night game as well as which one you find to be more efficient.
Smooth, I love the fact that you approach so much and often. Im about to do some hard core approaching tomorrow hopefully. At clubs and bars I usually have a friend or I am with a group where typically I have some good social proof. I tend to run the group set pretty well. On my own or with just a wing man I havent fared too well myself. I have sent my current wing man the ebook of the game so he can get what I am trying to do so I feel your pain. I would say look for a single friend that wants to meet women and have them read the game. If they really want to meet women and see that your successful they will be a good wing. If your ever in Houston I would be more than happy to sarge with you man. Day game is all about direct approach but it seems like you do that already in night game. I havent really tried indirect approach which is supposedly the best way from what I have read but I cant say I have tried it in field myself. I open sets but have not isolated at clubs. I still have work to do but you have way more mileage than me on approaches. Experience is key. Indirect is asking a question and then continuing the conversation. I think the difference is gong direct can work well on both but direct works best during the day because you are one on one often with the girl.

Keep up the good work brother!


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Thursday July 26, 2012
Just a follow up from a date I had. I ended up meeting up with a chick I number closed from a previous post in this thread. We met up at a bar in a city close to each of us late Thursday night. She was constantly texting me first after we exchanged numbers so I ended up calling her prior to setting this up. I asked her via phone what she was looking for and she responded not a relationship and that she just wanted to have fun. We decided to meet up and I gamed her pretty well as we talked about school, sex, and I did kino her. I planned out my logistics before the date and realized they were not in my favor. I was basically going for a hotel close. Later in the night I suggested we go to a hotel and she said no. I was persistent however, and mentioned it again later. Eventually the bar closed up while we stayed outside and talked a bit more. We ended up making out and then I threatened to leave, but she recommended I go to the back of her Acura. The parking lot was empty and the windows of her car were tinted so I complied and well you know the rest.


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Just a follow up from a date I had. I ended up meeting up with a chick I number closed from a previous post in this thread. We met up at a bar in a city close to each of us late Thursday night. She was constantly texting me first after we exchanged numbers so I ended up calling her prior to setting this up. I asked her via phone what she was looking for and she responded not a relationship and that she just wanted to have fun. We decided to meet up and I gamed her pretty well as we talked about school, sex, and I did kino her. I planned out my logistics before the date and realized they were not in my favor. I was basically going for a hotel close. Later in the night I suggested we go to a hotel and she said no. I was persistent however, and mentioned it again later. Eventually the bar closed up while we stayed outside and talked a bit more. We ended up making out and then I threatened to leave, but she recommended I go to the back of her Acura. The parking lot was empty and the windows of her car were tinted so I complied and well you know the rest.
Bad ass! Good job man! You didnt even have to spring for a Hotel. I think this is a good idea since I dont have a car this might be something I need to get get right when it comes to logistics.


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