Dear Tripp,

1) How was the trip?

2) Is there such a thing as revealing too much through conversation in comfort? What do you believe is the optimal ratio of you:her talking here?

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1. You know, spelling it that way doesn't even look right to me anymore, lol.

2. Yes, you CAN reveal too much. And EASILY too. You have to be careful with that. You should ALWAYS leave some mystery there. In comfort? The optimal ratio? Hard to say because it really depends on each specific girl. Some girls LOVE to talk, so in comfort you can bet they're gonna flap, lol. Some girls LOVE to be quiet, some in comfort they are gonna let you make them feel comfy, and that's about it. They'll talk some, but not near as much. I'm not really sure you can put an optimal ratio on that exchange to be honest. You'll probably hear 50/50 though from a lot of people. But realize that's a guideline, not a cold hard fact.

Fashion advice, lol.

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LOL. Fashion advice from me, eh? Hehe. Are you sure about that one? LOL.

Monday was my first night of actual sarging and it went surprisingly well. I used the "Who wants to buy me a drink" opener twice and neither went extraordinary but at least I did it. Anyway, I was talking to these two dudes I know and I see this chick talking to my friend, all of a sudden this chick comes over and gooses me in the junk. I played it cool, mostly because I was so surprised, I did not want to react because I figure that might be DLV. Later in the night, I approach the same girl and she splashed a drink on me and later spit water on me, I played it off like nothing, but I feel that was the wrong call. Any suggestions?

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Hmmm, that depends on her facial expressions and body language when she did it. It could be that she was pissed that you ignored her earlier, but it could also be that she was REALLY trying to get your attention, and get you to like her, which I figure is more likely. Some girls are just that hardcore. And, when they are, it's a lot of fun, lol.

My suggestion would have been to neg her HARD on those things. With the splash, maybe something like "I've already taken a bath today, thanks. Maybe you need one?"

With the spitting thing, I would have just told her that's gross and I don't go for girls that do that shit.

From there you could find out which way she's going with you.

Hey Tripp,

Before reading the Game and other material, I was quite interested in a girl. Walked her home a few times after nights out but never had the balls to make any moves on her despite the fact that, looking back, there were IOI's although I guess I didn't realise it. She also had a boyfriend so back then I saw it as wrong to make a move on her.

Since then I have read a fair bit of material and made a few subtle changes to my life and approach to women as a whole. I don't intend to be a mPUA or anything just to have more confidence around women and be able to pick up on signs they may give out and know a bit more about how they tick.

This past weekend we were out for a few drinks, she ended up back and mine and I K-Closed. She said if I was out in town the next night to give her a shout. We then ended up meeting up and she ended back at mine again. Managed to F-Close with her and it was awesome. Oh and she is still supposed to be with her boyfriend but apparently things are very rocky (probably even more so after the weekend!)

She has now headed home for Christmas and New Year so I wont see her till January. How am I able to keep her thinking of me and keen on me until the New Year or is this not possible?
Should I plan to do something with in January from now or just ait and see how things go in the New Year? Things will also be made harder by the fact that she has lots of uni work the very start of January.
Am I being a bit AFC and developing one-itis a bit too much?

Eh, you have the beginning stages of one-itis, but I wouldn't worry about that at this point. Right now, your thoughts are valid. If you have her phone number, drop her a text, reminding her of your time together. Something funny that you two shared. Or, something intimate, other than "you were great in bed". And don't drop "was I any good?" lol. Nothing like those two statements. Something that shows you're confident in yourself. In fact, a good text to start with would be the one that floats around on this forum . . . "STOP!" She says "stop what?" You say "stop smiling. You're doing it . . . right . . . now." That would be a good start, if you have her cell number. Keep up her attraction to you that way, through texts and if possible, a couple of phone calls. Then, build her anticipation of getting together with you again in January. If you build her excitement up enough about that, she will make room in her schedule for you.

Hey Trip. I recently just discovered what my 'sticking point' is. My 'style' is basically cocky/funny and it always works to get the girls initially attracted to me. But the problem is I dont know when to turn off the asshole and I find myself eventually working backwards and the attraction kind of dies because I wont stop being a jerk. I guess im afraid of appearing to be too 'nice.' My questions are , when do you turn off the 'asshole' or cocky/funny and start opening up to the girl and being nice? And how nice? Thanks man.

AAhhh, nice man. Excellent question. I've struggled with the same thing. I still have to watch it at times, lol. Just ask my wife and Zip. I give them a hard time and go overboard at times. Well, anyway, to answer your question, you do need to throw out a genuine compliment at times. You need to reward the girl anyway, when she complies or jumps through a hoop. And, as SOON as you notice that you MAY have gone overboard, quickly throw out something to reward her with. You can't keep knocking her down and expect her to get up off her ass and continue to comply with you. So, if you even think you've gone overboard, throw out a reward, to let her know you're sorry for going overboard and that you still like her. Don't throw out reward after reward after reward or she WILL think you're being too nice at that point. But, if you give her one reward when you've gone overboard, it will go a LONG way. Then, if you continue to "knock her down" with too much cockiness, you'll have to very soon throw out another reward. Just work to maintain that balance. You can do it.

How do I go about getting a hot wife like yours?

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LOL, either get lucky, or use the PUA skills

BTW, where did you see her pic?

Okay, I'm going to be a hypocrite here. In another thread I told Firebird that I don't go after chicks at work. Tonight I did.

New HB8.5 at work, works in a different department. I met her a week or two before she actually started her job (at a bar). Anyways, she and I basically work conflicting shifts. She works days, I work nights. Tonight, however, she picked up a night shift. I ran some C&F stuff on her. I get the impression that she's pretty comfortable around me. It could have something to do with the fact that I am "Socially Proofed" in her department, ie: I get along with almost everyone that works nights in her department. It could also be that I am preselected, almost every female in her department lines up to give me a hug or other kino when they see me. So I joked around with her a bit, she ended up telling me (in so many words) that she was offended that I didn't invite her out last night (Thurs night for drinks). I said to her that I couldn't invite her because I didn't have her phone number. Bingo, instant "#close." So, after she gives me her number, she tells me to call her "right away" so she can have my number in her phone. I said "I'm not sure that I can trust you with my number in your phone." She replied, "Well, I promise you that I won't call you, I just want your number in my phone so I know who it is." I started to say back to her, "Wait a second, what's with all this 'I promise not to call you' crap?" She basically said that she wants to hang out with my friends and that I probably wouldn't want to meet her friends. I told her that I wouldn't mind meeting her friends and that she should call me. About 10~15 minutes later I left her a voicemail: "Hey *HB*, it's *Medic*, two things, first, it's snowing and that's kind of unexpected, but secondly and more importantly, I'm not too sure that I should have given you my number because you seemed pretty reluctant to want to hang out, I'm not sure what we're going to do about this, but I'm sure that we'll speak soon, bye."

After this not-so-breif history of present events, here is my question(s). First, how do you think that I handled the situation? Secondly, since it would be very odd to kino her in the workplace, I just did a couple of light touches to the tricep while speaking to her...any thoughts? Third, one of the girls at work said that she has a bf. I was standing around while HB was speaking to a coworker of hers. Said coworker is currently upset with her husband, HB responded to coworker's comment with "Yeah, that's probably what mi(ne)..." she cut herself off in the middle of the sentance and I caught her looking at me from the corner of her eye. I think that she doesn't want me to know that she has a bf. Also, a coworker of mine, who knows HB (not very well), said that he thinks that HB & HB's bf are on the outs. I need suggestions on how to handle this seeminly delicate situation. Fourth, I'm going to see her again tomorrow for a 4 hour overlap of shifts, how do I procede with conversation? Fifth, her name is THE SAME, letter-for-letter, of my ex-fiancee. It kind of freaks me out a little. When I say HB's name, or even hear it, I get a little knot in my stomach. Almost if I was speaking to my ex...even though this one is hotter!

Any help would be...er...helpful. Thanks.

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EDIT: i just realized i was in your q+a thread tripp. sorry to invade your turf but since i already gave my input i will just leave it. feel free confirm or disagree with what i say

i would say lay off the negs a bit. a neg is meant to knock a girl back to level playing field when she starts giving IOD's. she was giving you IOI's and you used a bit of c+f which is great but continued with that. from the post it sounds like a little too much. try to see if she wants to go out for coffee or something and build comfort + rapport + kino so she knows you are interested and that you are interesting to her sexually. tell us how it goes!

Lucid, thanks, I can use all the help I can get.

That makes sense, I guess I was trying to be a little too C&F with her and I mixed up some extras negs in there. I just don't want her to assume that since I'm "friends" with everyone in her dept. that I will just automatically be her "friend." I'm just not sure how to create the necessary sexual tension.

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