How do I best handle maintaining and improving my pick up skills now that I have a live in GF. She knows that I don't believe in monogamy. We have only been living together a few months. She wavers back and forth, but I will confess that I am too. I feel that it's necessary to be completely honest with her, but things happen in field that can't be predicted, but need to be experienced for the sake of learning.

I don't know how to set guidelines for in-field practice or what the parameters are for PUA guys with GF's that still practice in field. Any advice on how to handle this would be much appreciated. She will surely be okay with this I just want to make it fair and open....

~Lovecraft~

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How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being. - Oscar Wilde

You already dug your own grave by letting her move in. Trying to be a pickup artist while living with your girlfriend is not going to work. You're not going to be able to bring girls back to the house and you really can't have girls calling your phone either. You really can't just leave the house out of the blue without raising suspicion.

Most you'll be able to do is go out with your homies an try to talk to girls. But even then you have to be careful which girls you're talking too it could get back to your girlfriend. Then you run the risk of seeing those girls again. You going to have to constantly look over your shoulder.

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I'm not trying to sleep with other girls. I just want to keep my skills sharp and maintain a tiny jealousy plotline and make her realize that I always have options. She talks to here ex-es in an effort to make me jealous, so I feel a little turn about is fair play. Plus I wish to improve my circle of friends and use my skills for social networking.

We went to a bar last night and I had 2 girls hitting on me while she was watching. My GF was slightly unhappy when we came home last night, but we both read Tarot Cards for a living and I used the opportunity to work it from a client pick-up angle.

I gave one girl my card, though I didn't number close... I realized right then that I was out of practice and really need to stay in the game or I'll have to start all over from scratch if my GF leaves.

I am thinking of putting some rules in place that both her and I can agree on... No sex is obvious, but I am thinking that kiss closes must be allowed. Not when my GF is around, I'm not a complete a**hole, but when I'm out at the bars and clubs and she's not with... I think a kiss close and number close is enough to make me feel like I'm still on my game, without stepping too far out of bounds... and all contact with girls should lead to paid Tarot Reading for my school fund...

Does any of that sound too off the wall? This is a new situation, but I am determined to make those rules and adhere to them. I get sex, and I like my GF... I just need to keep my options open, so that she's aware I have them, and so that if the relationship does fall apart I am still able to get right out there and work on a new relationship...

I have considered polyamory, and could probably make it work, but I think that may be going too far. What is ur experience with live in GF's..?

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How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being. - Oscar Wilde

I've never had a live in girlfriend. I would never purposely bring doom upon myself I known many a man whom have regretted moving in with their girlfriends. From the looks of things you made a brash decision and still wanting to live a bachelor lifestyle.

It's game over man

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i live with my gf..

I feel there is an increasing power struggle and the relationship is headed for imminent demise..

recently she read hideous comments i wrote on puahate.com
and has fell o0ut of love..

she no longer wants to be nice vs. im still sort the same assshole maybe less assholey...

so now im questioning myself? stay with this girl who'se acting up and no longer shows the same love and affection?

Am i suppose to kiss her ass endlesslessly, or this relationship completely dying due to lack of love and trust?

Idk what to do.. I live with this girl, but i feel like this cant be repaired and it sucks cuz i have crazy mood swings everyday becuz of it..

Alright, Alright hold up! most of the guys who say they would never live with their gf's because it ruins things have never lived with a girl so they really don't have a lot of experience. In theory this is true but in reality it is possible to live with a girl and still maintain a strong frame! and maintain the upper hand. Is it more difficult? of course it is but it can still be done.

I live with my gf more out of circumstance then anything eles. I would tend to agree that moving in with your gf is a bad idea if you can help it but sometimes the circumstance does not allow for this. I live with my gf and have found it a lot more difficult to keep the upper hand! and the hardest part is being able to "push away" when she is not acting the way I want her to, or when she is being distant....that being said I have learned a lot about women, about my gf, and about my self by living with her, I also feel like if I can maintain my alpha frame while living with a girl, maintaining it with other women will be much much simpler!

I think the biggest thing when living with someone is learning how to push away a times...you cannot just leave the house for a couple days and not talk to her, you share a place, you cannot ignore her, so this is something I feel needs to be mastered! its something that I at times struggle with! I learn new things every day!

I too am finding having a live in gf to be an interesting learning experience. I do the push-pull thing by teasing... I'm kind of lucky in that I am working towards my Bachelors degree and leave often to go to the library to do homework, so I'm able to get away...

I find that hardest part to be the availability... I have this issue with a "I want something I can never have" and when the sex is available all the time and she is always telling me how great I am... it is somehow a turn-off... I can't figure out why exactly or how to fix it, but I'm working on it...

more than anything I need to figure out how to flirt and maintain game and improve my social dynamic skills while maintaining the relationship. I won't sleep with anyone else... (at least without permission... ... but I have no real plans to do anything like that... I just need to be able to go out and flirt and go for number closes and and kiss closes...

I talked to her about it and she said this seems fair... I am also working towards building a fan base as a local writer and wish to use my skills for that... I earn money for school telling fortunes with Tarot Cards and need to rope in clients... so I am going to have to have a strong frame in order to be true to myself and to her and still live my life the way that I need to...

anyone ever been in 2 relationships at once while living with a gf? she does have a friend that is hot and I have thought that might be a safe way to head in that direction... any thoughts?

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Terrible idea bro! why would you live with a girl if you want to cheat? The only way it will work is if you both have an open relationship, but those rarely work out, and women have a hard time separating sex from emotion...its easy for a guy to bang and not get attached but women get more and more attached the more they sleep with a man so if you go that route be prepared that your gf might become very attached to another guys....kind of like having two bf's. From the sounds of things you want to to go out, sleep with randoms, and then come home at night and cuddle and share life with your gf? If that is that case it's not going to work unless you have a very very very liberal and open gf!

monogamy is not for everyone, for me monogamy works as long as the girl I am with is hot, has a high sex drive, and is a little kinky lol other wise I don't think I could do it! Believe me I have thought about sleeping with other women! but I made a commitment to one women, I chose to be monogamous...no one made me do it, and I could leave at any time.

to each their own.

you make a good point, dark one... I am not against monogamy... and I do still want to go out... but not to bang other women... I can get sex anytime I want... my gf has a very high sex drive...

For me it's all an ego thing... plus she is still talking to two of here exes on a regular basis and I am not going to be put into a position where she gets to make me jealous, but I don't have any options... I need her to know that women find me attractive and that I have options...

How do I do this without flirting and making friends with other women... I don't stay attached to old gfs anymore, and what you said about women being attached emotionally is so true... in fact I told my gf the other day when she tried to claim that her exes were "just friends" that no guy wants to be friends with a girl he doesn't sleep with and that all "real relationships" are about emotional connections not physical actions...

I warned her that if she keeps trying to work a jealousy plot-line on me it was going to backfire on her eventually because I get hit on everywhere I go these days... It's been a matter of choice that I don't take numbers and contact other women, since we started living together... but I easily could... I need to keep her jealous not the other way around... I'm the one with multiple open options and she has an alcoholic ex and a pussy ex who wouldn't commit to her... that's what she's working with...

Plus... I spent YEARS learning and honing my social skills... I need to put those to use to build my fan base as a writer and entertainer... I am just looking for ways to do this and still be true to the relationship... but I'm not going to stop practicing and then turn back into an AFC so that she gets bored and leaves me and I have to start re-learning in-field game... That's what happened with my last GF and I won't make the same mistake twice...

looks aren't important to me... and I don't really care to cheat on her... or sleep around even out in the open... I just don't know how to keep from turning back into an AFC... and the only way I can imagine keeping it all together personally is to keep working toward PUArtistry in some way...? Any ideas...?

How do you feel about Tyler Durden's Social Dynamics information... I know that PUA's like Mystery, Style, Lovedrop and Matador have all had GF's and maintained their jobs as Instructors... should I go the "Dating Coach" route?

Have you ever been in MLTR's..?

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How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being. - Oscar Wilde

If I were you I would just tell your gf "You can talk to who ever you want, I trust you, and you have 100% of my trust! but once its gone its gone for ever!". From the sound of things your gf is being very disrespectful and imo you should let her know that you trust her but you will not put up with bullshit and if she crosses a line its over....and if she does cross a line then end it! you have to back up what you say or she wont respect your or take you seriously. Other then that there is not much you can do and by pressing the issue you are only making your self look worse and loosing value in her eyes. It hard to imagine your gf with another guy, but if shes going to cheat she will cheat and there is no way you could shelter her from that! If she crosses a line then break up with her....its not an easy thing to do but you will get over her trust me!

How should you make her jealous? Just have a life out side of her, start going out more with friends, don't tell her what you did when you were out, tell her you had a lot of fun and leave it to her imagination to figure out what happens when you are out. Also start going to the gym, buy no clothes and perhaps a new hair style, spend less time with her and more time on you building your career and life! She might try to make your jealous and shit test you but eventually when she see you are not phased by her actions she will start to want you more.

Here is the thing, if you live with your gf you should not be still trying to make each other jealous....its immature and you two should be way past that! You don't have to try to make her jealous, you just have to be alpha, have a life out side of her, let her know that you don't need her to be happy.