any ways so im gonna see this gal next week and her birthday also happens to be on the same week. so i was thinking should I give her a birthday gift or not ( is it too AFC?) anyways If i do what kinda gift shud it be?

Women really appreciate jewellry and with this one you cant really go wrong. There's a good chance she's gonna like it. Plus you dont have to spend a bomb. Dont go to expensive as you dont know her too well but dont go too cheap neither. have a shop around first and see if you find her something unique. (Funny maybe?) But dont give the game away that you like her too much.

sometimes girls go and make friends with a lot of boys shortly before their birthday then after about a week after her birthday she makes less effort with them

If you hardly know her, don't get her anything. its AFC.

I bought a girl a phone once for £20 a samgsung D500, I was dating her but still, I could see the attraction draining out of her and I felt kinda stupid.

may ruin your chances of F-Closing

Choice's choice's. You know the situation better than us, i must amit jewellry does give off 'the i like' signals, but its a gift idea. But you never know if your not too serious about it, it il be cool.


Here's an idea
Get her somethin stupid (but kinda funky, funny or what not)
Drag her over half way through the night, get her close and 'say did you like my gift?'
Come on amit it was better than all the other presents you got, the rest where shite, you need a (insert) their essential.

hell, get her an entertaining birthday card at most. if it looks tryhard she'll be turned off. it's that simple man

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im going with the other guy its too afc i dont buy woman anything untill after about the 10th date i have gotten burned in the past for going to big too soon

Personally i dont buy anyone shit, an nobody gets me anythin, so actually im giving advice that i would'nt do myself. Bit my life is abit different to other peoples. I do buy people drinks, dont get me wrong i would'nt anyone a drink i aint known longer than a week. But i did go out on a date with this russian bird and i bought the first drinks, we went to another bar after an i only got myself 1 and she just sat there without a drink, what do you do in this situation and what should i of said?

Thx guys for all the suggestions. ok now here i have run into a small problem again.. she was flirting with me all night yday thru text. she was calling me "handsome friend" blah blah ( i take it as an IOI possibly) and she invited me to some new yrs party so we could hand out. anyways then i negged her saying
u should really stop flirting with me, or otherwise ill have to charge u n said i charge by the hr...

anyways then she replies me back saying "flirt? i thought we are friends blah blah and i make her smile and she enjoys it"

Does she mean she only like me as a friend ? is she shit testing me? or i got some more work to do when i meet her? im kinda new to this pick up stuff so any help is greatly appreciated guys

Either she's just flirting for fun, or it was a false disqualifier (check the terms thread if you don't know the meaning).

You don't know her well enough. I wouldn't buy a very very close friend of mine an xmas gift except she told me she was getting me one and that's only because as I said, VERY close, otherwise I'd just accept hers and thank her kindly. Don't buy her a gift unless it is a gag and then you want to build it up to make it sound like something amazing that she's just gonna love more than anything she has ever gotten before; then give her the penis mold kit from up above (great gag gift), or some $2 plastic jewelery (spend more than $5 and I'm authorized to fly out there at the expense of the forum just to smack some sense into you for being massively afc).

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