Hey guys
I'ved observed something similar with all the alphas I know.
When someone is mocking/teasing them, they always tend to have a good comeback that can get them out of the mocking with everyone smiling.

I went to a bar with a friend yesterday.
We ended up with two girls.
We were drawing pictures to each other (long story), when my friend commented mine and said: "Your drawing looks like shit".
The girls got quiet, and I answered with a smile: "Yeah, but at least I had the fantasy to draw two different pictures" (he drawed the same picture to both).
I hadnt had specially good game that night, but afterwards the girls changed caracter to me immediatly.
I went home with a #-close.

It got me thinking about having a good defence-mechanism.
I think that a strong signiture of being Alpha is to know how to defend yourself.
I never see an Alpha attacking someone else, but when they are attacked they are strong as hell.
It's pretty much like the lions. When a lion have a mate, or more, they settle with them - and when other lions are attacking, it's he's job to protect he's mates for he's own sake. The strongest win and get the mates.

The situation yesterday happens to me rarely.
Do you know when you are getting teased and you think about just the right comeback two minutes later? I do, and I would like to better myself on that front - I just don't know how.
Do any of you have some advices, training ideas etc. that can better me?
Much appreciated.
//LA

These came to me in an email forward:

Does your stream of consciousness have any fish in it?
Ah! I see the memo fairy has visited us again.
I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.
How about never? Is never good for you?
I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public
I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me.
I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.
I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.
I don't work here. I'm a consultant.
It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.
I can see your point, but I still think you're full of it.
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.
I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't give a damn.
I'm already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.
I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you.
Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.
The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
What am I? Flypaper for freaks!?
I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant.
It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off.
Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.
No, my powers can never be used for good.
You sound reasonable. Time to up the medication.
Who me? I just wander from room to room
And your crybaby, whiney-butt opinion would be?
Do I look like a people person?
This isn't an office. It's Hell with fluorescent lighting.
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left.
You! Off my planet!
Does your train of thought have a caboose?
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
I am a PBS mind in an MTV world.
Allow me to introduce my selves.
Whatever kind of look you were going for, you missed.
Well, your day is a total waste of makeup.
Not all managers are annoying. Some are dead.
I'm trying to imagine you with a personality.
A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door.
Stress is when you wake up screaming, and you realize you haven't fallen asleep yet.
Can I trade this job for what's behind door Number 1?
Too many freaks, not enough circuses.
Nice cologne. Must you marinate in it?
Chaos, panic and disorder. My work here is done
How do I set a laser printer on "stun"?
I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted the paychecks.
If I throw a stick, will you leave?
Sarcasm is just one more service we offer.

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There are definatly some classic ones in there. The "I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce" cracked me up
They are good to start off with, but in the long term I seek the developement of myself.
Like openers: Pre-made openers is good to know, but I think the key is to get to a point where you can make up your own.
I'ved come to a conclusion that a good comeback is one that dosent go under the belt or is personal, but concentrate on the other part and something he does.
Like if you say "at least I'm not a crybaby like you were last week when your girlfriend left you" - not a good comeback at all.
I can point out alot of bad comebacks, but I have a hard time figure out what is the key to a good one is.
Any thoughts?

here are some ideas man,

think of when someone challenges your ego with negative validation in front of other people, it is like a test of congruence for you, what sort of frame do you maintain when someone negatively validates you, do you just fall into their frame?, do you all of a sudden start reacting and lose congruence?

when dealing with ''amogs'' or insults, or insecure guys who feel threatened by you in some way, all you have to do is detach from the situation emotionally and don't invest in the argument, just hold a focus and remain focused, don't allow yourself to really invest in what a person is saying to you at all when it comes to this type of interaction

if you can emotionally de-tach in these situations, then what ever you say to him will be a response coming from your core rather then a reaction, if it comes from a proactive frame rather then a reactive frame, then you are set, you can ignore the guy, you can toy with him and get a reaction out of him by irritating him then cooling him off or what ever entertains you, what ever it is, as long as you can stay in control of what you are doing and feeling then you can remain proactive in your decision making, as soon as you lose your cool, and start to feel insecure about what the person is saying or angry or irritated or have some sort of an emotion that is being triggered in you as a result of what is being said by the other guy, it will impede your ability to make decisions under the guise of your own frame and subtly you will start to lose congruence and fall into the frame of the person who is the least reactive

essentially it is not the comeback that even matters, it's how much you care, it's just like watching a troll at work, the troll wins when he has successfully pissed someone off, he gets a laugh, the pissed off person gets trolled, the troll doesn't necessarily need gold to troll someone with, they just need to be persistent and dominant in expressing their troll like frame and staying congruent with it until people are reacting, same thing with ''amog battles'', stronger frame absorbs the weaker frame, and it starts emotionally, emotions are contagious, if you feel a certain way and are unaffected emotionally by those around you, eventually those around you will become effected by you emotionally, lead the emotions and you can lead the interaction

Pumpingtons advice is spot on. But the question is HOW?
That is why I would like to address the issue that ALWAYS comes up in this forum.

Pre-made, or Canned, Openers, Routines, Comebacks and their proper use and intention!

Think of PUA as Martial Arts; Learn, practice, ADAPT!

Use canned material as a foundation, to adapt to a given situation, or "Frame".

It help greatly when you feel "stuck". You don't know what to say, or how to react.

But THEN WALLAH! you remember what you had read/learned, and how it had worked!

You pull that shit out of your memory banks! ADAPT it to YOUR frame! SMILE your ass off, then take home the girl!

I hope you get what I'm saying here! although not as eloquent as Pump!

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This is a interesting post. Heres my advice.

Me and my flat friends had a night out one time and i was wearing a blue shirt but im skinny and not very tall so one of the girl says to me "you look like a smurf"

The guys start laughing at me because smurf implies towards being homosexual and not being masculine basically a "faggot"

what do i do i dont fall into her frame, i make it my own frame

i smile and say "really well smurfs are cute. that must mean your attracted to me...i'll take that"

Boom shes quite and almost kinda shy now.

And the guys all of a sudden in my side.

The best way to deal with it is not to be affected by it

and if you really cant think of a comeback you can always say

"i have a really good comeback but i dont want to hurt your feelings" and smile

Soncheese x

personally, ive found the best thing to do when challenged is to completely ignore their accusing frame. or to simply agree with it (yet still be unneffected by it)

for example: in set talking to girl and some dude from her group comes in from the side and calls me weird/creepy. i barely acknowledge the guy, hardly even turn to him and just say 'yeah man, nice one.' and instantly go back to the girl. now he looks like an idiot.

it leaves the guy confused and not knowing what the hell to do. you just agreed with him. so if he tries again he looks like a moron because then hes agreeing with YOU. his only other choice is to walk off.

it hasnt failed yet. i even did it to an old friend last weekend (we always try to fuck each other over) at the end of the night he was literally screaming 'REACT!!' at me haha

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