Ok so I was trying online sarging with this girl I kind of know her so I opened using the red and black opener (Credit to Brian Bond) although I changed it to suit my personality anyway I ended up in a proper conversation with her so what should I do now to escalate?

FB CONVERSATION:
Me : Red or Blue?

HB9: what?

Me:
Red or blue? not that hard pick one

HB9:
a red or blue what? :L

Me:
Fine then I'll make it easier hot or cold?
And where have you disappeared to? I haven't seen you in a while :L

HB9:
mate. what are you on about? :L i dont mean to be difficult but i want to make an informed choice
oh these things called exams...

Me:
useless aren't we and I thought you finished?

HB9
nope

Me:
and just answer it's just some fun
or are you not into having fun

HB9:
ohhh its just random questions? :L

Me
So hot or cold?

HB9:
hot, obvs :L

Me:
odd or even?

HB9:
even

Me:
Thought so... music or dance?

HB9:
guess

Me:
Not sure :L hmm I could see you as a dancer but I think you couldn't live without music as well :/

HB9:
well you need music to dance, dont you smart boy?

Me:
Waay so the cats got claws and do you dance?


HB9:
i do gcse dance

Me:
Oh cool I was going to but I don't do contemporary we're not allowed to b-boy

HB9:
you do contemporary?

Me:
I did some ages ago but then I started break dancing instead I find it more fun
I'm guessing you do contemporary?

HB9:
of course

Me:
you ever performed on stage?

HB9:
yes 4 times I have massive stage fright though.. ended up running off 3 times :/

Me:
Aww I love being on stage so much fun

HB9:
oh yeah you do drama?

Me:
-.- really? you always like this or are you just messing about?

HB9:
do you? :L

Me:
What have we been talking about for like the last 10 minutes?

HB9:
um firstly random questions.. then dance?

Me:
Yes we were talking about dance I did say I do break dance didn't I? XD

HB9:
does that count as drama? :/

Me:
Wow. just wow get out right now.
Break DANCE emphasis on the DANCE just in case you missed it

HB9:
then whats your point?! i asked you if yoiu did drama!?

Me:
DX my bad I messed up :S I thought you asked if I was on stage for drama :L

HB9:
apologies please

Me:
I'm truly sorry about my harassment about misunderstanding your statement if you could kindly find the kindness in your heart to forgive me I would be very happy
xx
good enough?

HB9:
yup

Me:
Yay thank you kindly stranger xx
So we having a party for our new shared experience of me apologising?
You know go out for some cake
oh wait you can't have any

HB9:
thats mean only 2 days
*I left conversation at this point

Not sure if apologising makes me DLV?
What ways can I get a number close to date on this?

I didn't read the entire convo... Getting late for work...

BUT that conversation is getting long and drawn out. It has no focus. Number close her and move on. You need direction in the conversations.

I'll usually start out kinda silly for the first few messages. You gotta get off that track after the first few messages tho. Start telling some a few DHV stories, look for attraction, then number or date close. Women get bored and move one if the conversation gets drawn out in messaging online.

Especially more attractive women. It really helps if you have direction and know how and when to escalate. They notice when a guy can knows what to do. It tells them you're experienced and not intimidated by their looks..

She doesn't seem too interested. I never really caught one IoI in the entire conversation. Just went back and read it really quick..

So how would you go about number closing from this position?

Well, I would not. Just because she doesn't seem to anxious about you so far. After three ioi's i number close (got that from mystery, btw). I'd use this:

send another message, whatever you'd like. At the end put, "btw, my name is bob (ir whatever your name is).

If she responds by giving her name that is huge. It's the proper thing to do, and it was really uninitiated from the sense you never asked for it. Pretty big IOI when they respond that way.

If she gives her name, number close her. Otherwise, live to fight another day. Stop messaging her for about two weeks, then message her again in hopes your display of non-needy behavior has attracted her a little more.


Not, saying that is the best approach. But that's what I'd do.

She's already given me her name and stuff it's just I only started trying to pick her up yesterday and was wondering if I could actually do it I'm just trying to improve my online sarging

Right on!

Use this, i got by searching in the forums:

Hey! I just got back from the Dr! He said I need to text a cute Jenny to satisfy my texting addiction. The only other options are:
- cut my fingers off
- toss my iPhone

I'm not tossing my 4s. Do you text, Jenny? Please don't make me cut my fingers off!



I modified that close a little bit. I always get comments from women on how "smooth" it is. Wish I could remember the guy who posted it in the orginal form to give him street creds for it...

I'm guessing I would change Jenny to her name right?

Unless her number is 867-5309 or her name is Jenny, of course.....

So I tried the close and it went like this:
HB9: Hahaha oh you charmer :L but did you seriously have to go to the doctors?

hey man, you could try just chatting with her some more, get to know her better turn the game off now just shoot the shit, find out what you have in common, talk about the fun stuff you like to do see what she likes, find something you both like to do, invite her out, keep chatting with her really dig deep to the point were she is showing interest in what you guys are talking about, then just ask her out, if she is interested get her number, if not, keep talking to her, if she starts getting short or blowing you off, then just drop it for a while and when you're bored later can hit her up

meeting girls in person is probably an easier way to make a good impression

Thanks for the tips. But my inner AFC is saying that if I meet her in real life I'll be blown out really quickly. I have AA problems with HB8+ :L any more advice?

You'll never get over AA IRL until you try to improve. The best way to improve is go out with as many HB 8+'s as possible.

I mean, damn, when I first got good enough to get dates, I totally bombed the first dozen or so. I decided to keep going and went out with as many women as possible.

It will get to the point where it's second nature to talk to, and go out with attractive women.

BTW, don't be upset that close did not work. I told you there was not much attraction on her end yet. You really should not give up on her though. But cool your jets on her for a while. You got some good advice from a mod, but you need to build attraction still, or your best hope will be getting LJBF'd.

So I read this forum, and thought I'd give the opener a try on an HB8 I've online sarg'd to text messaging this week... We hadn't talked in 2 days, since our first initial text convo earlier in the week.

So I opened with.......

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ME: ....Red or Pink?

HB8: Pink How are u??

ME: Doing great! ...and you? Black -or grey?

HB8: I'm well. About to enjoy some wine. Black

ME: Mmm... wine is delicious. Special occasion, long day, or just because wine is fun? And.... Black or Pink?

HB8: Lol. Long day and wine is delicious. Lol. Pink


......(wait for it........20 minutes.... wait for it....)


HB8: Why?

ME: Why wine is delicious, or why Pink?

HB8: Pink

ME: Because when a man and a lady go out they should compliment one another... was wondering what I was going to be up against. What do you think?

HB8: That's hot. Love that

ME:

HB8: So who's wearing pink and who's wearing black?

ME: Really? ...I can rock either on the town... Pink in bed would be new for me.

HB8: Haha! Pink in bed? Such as panties? Lol

ME: I know you have pink panties......


(.....15 minutes, no response.......)


HB8: **(sends head shot photo of herself in black/grey bra)**



ME: Black and grey on the bod and flower in your hair.... looking good girl!

HB8: Glad u likey. Pink and black are my faves to wear and I am fabulous in pink


(...15 minutes, no response back....)


HB8: So when are we going out and where are you taking me?

ME: ....to be continued. I will call you tomorrow. Ok?

HB8: Ok.


...in and out. And I'd say the opener worked nicely.