It's one thing to attract a girl, but another to find a girl who can be your friend without being attracted to you. This is what I struggle with. Every friendship with a girl that I have had in the past has led to her being attracted to me and me not reciprocating, leading to bad feelings.

So now, here is my situation... I want to befriend this girl who I used to know, she is pretty cool. However, I also want to meet her hot friend who I saw on this friend's new profile pic.

A woman will be more likely to want to meet you if her friend approves of you. To get her friend to approve of you/like you/etc, it seems to me that the best way is to use PUA skills (at their core the PUA skills we learn are really all about getting people to like you more). However, I don't want to send the wrong impressions on the girl who I just want as a friend.

On one hand, I want to keep things interesting enough to establish the friendship with the first girl, but yet not lead her on. This is what I have yet to figure out how to do in my previous friendships with girls, and I would love some advice.

Attract her, then get all needy and shit, then let her friend zone YOU!


Of course this means you may have to have sex with her once or twice! LOL

_________________
They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

Ive run into this problem a lot too.. Ive had more succes with it when im able to verbalize early on that she seems like shes gonna make a good friend.. After that she will still seek to hook up with u a bit, but the ball will be in ur hands to push it further or keep it at that level..

Okay, sleeping with your cute female friends can only help your social circle game. Just be honest with them, keep things casual and don't treat them like a girlfriend or promise them monogamy. They are adults, so they can decide for themselves if they want to have sex with you under those terms (i.e. it's always their decision, so they never really feel rejected). If they decided to stop having sex with you, then be understanding about it. If you handle things correctly, then you will go back to being good friends. Plus, they will tell all their friends how awesome you are. I believe this is the key to building up a solid social circle full of attractive women.

I came to this conclusion because I've only ever been laid once due to a platonic female friend. It just does not happen very often (for me). I've gotten laid a lot from my open relationship girlfriends (i.e. threesomes and foursomes). I've also gotten laid a lot due to male friend's talking me up to their female friends.


Just my 2 cents. I hope that helps.


EDIT: Also, here's a 2nd perspective (and an awesome post): Daigoro's "How to Fuck a Group of Friends": http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php? ... #post34708

In fact, feel free to ignore what I wrote and just read the post. =)


-Wolf

_________________
Screening: drama-free-relationships-1-screening-vt124827.html
Bad Behavior: drama-free-relationships-3-the-soft-next-vt125554.html

Thanks for the replies,

and Wolf, nice link.

What if I don't want to have sex with the friend, though? I'm not really interested in having sex with lots of different women, I prefer to find a good LTR.

May I ask why? If the answer is "because I have already had sex with a ton of girls, I know I'm awesome in bed, and it's not what I'm looking for right now", then stop reading. If the answer is pretty much anything else, then keep going.

You are doing yourself a disservice. The more sexual experience you have with women, the better off you will be in the long run. Dating and sleeping with a large number of women creates an abundance mentality (that will greatly benefit you in future relationships), builds up sexual confidence, and lets you better know what traits you want in future lovers. Furthermore, having multiple friends with benefits will give you more experience on how to handle shit tests, beta-ization, and bad behavior. Lastly, it will raise your value to the people in your social circle.

Other then that, I don't really have much advice for you. Maybe befriend the one girl and just hope that you aren't her type. Lol. Or tell her that you're mostly gay, think vagina's are gross, and would only consider having anal sex with a girl. Then, when you start dating the friend.. she'll just assume that her friend really likes it up the ass and wont ask too many questions.

Okay, that's actually brilliant. You should try it just to see if it works!

-Wolf

_________________
Screening: drama-free-relationships-1-screening-vt124827.html
Bad Behavior: drama-free-relationships-3-the-soft-next-vt125554.html

The whole I want a woman as a friend theory is Bullshit

Here is the my woman the friend chart

1. Girl your fucking!
2. Girl I want to fuck she friend zoned me.
3. Girl I oneitis-ed and really really really want to fuck.
4. Girl you fucked, and parted as friends.
5. Girl that wants to fuck you, but she is ugly/fat, but she is in your social circle.
6. Your Mom/Sister

_________________
They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.