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I know this is a common and touchy issue for those experiencing it. Personally I think you should get a professional opinion on something medical like this or at least verify anything you read online with a professional before using it.

But also keep in mind there are plenty of men with hair loss or even bald that are considered extremely sexy. Inner confidence can overcome a lot of surface things like that.

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don't go and win doctors advice about this topic, i highly discourage this because your doctor won''t know much about hair loss , diet and alternative health topics. he probably prescribe you some crap which does more harm than good.

if you want to reduce hair loss go take twice the tolerable upper level limit in vitamins and minerals... Increase anti oxidants because high levels of iron are oxidants - so take a increased amount of vitamin E, C, A ( water soluble vitamin A ) and selenium.

B vitamins are nearly incomplete in most food products because they are processed, aside from eating raw processed foods go for B-vitamin supplements - just take a B-100 complex ( contains about 100 mg of each B vitamin ).

i did some study into niacin and it can improve alot of health conditions - however everything above 200 mg releases a large amount of prostglandin ( histamines ) which can''potentially theoretically speaking''' speed up hair loss. Unless you have psychological / psychiatric disorders or health issues like permanent vasocontrictions or high cholestorol problems avoid taking more than 200 mg niacin long term.

i didn't found any increase in hair loss after taking 500 mg to 1500 mg of niacin daily for several weeks...but that's my biochemistry.

if you are bald you should consider cosmetical surgery ( hair transplanting ) there are some cases where molecular medicine ( taking megadoses of vitamins etc) creates regeneration of hair....but those cases are rare or have specific conditions ( after chemotherapy etc ). high dosages of chemicals o nutrients can alter or change gene expression - there is a chance or reverting damage.

i take megadosages of vitamins.. i take almost 1000 % of ''the reccomended daily dosage '' of every vitamin and mineral. I take 75 mg of zinc, some people have side effects from taking 20 mg of zinc and other people have no side effects from even taking 100 mg of zinc... same with vitamins- your personal biochemistry have different mineral and vitamin needs. some people can tolerate alot and some cannot tolerate low dosages.

there is 0 % evidence that high dosages / mega dosages create side effects or health problems - the only micronutrients that create toxicity in high dosages are copper, iron and zinc... however those free radicals can easily be undone with anti oxidants like selenium. Copper and iron are antagonists 0 if you take high amounts of copper, iron and zinc there wouldn''t be many problems... problems starting to happen if you TAKE one mineral in high dosage - because there are no vitamins and antagonistic minerals to balance them out.

( all studies that tried to prove only focussed on taking one factor and disregarding others... like test persons took zinc while fasting or not in combination with other minerals and vitamins... seriously flawed studies )

all recommended daily values are way way too low... i think the upper tolerable intake level should be the normal daily amount.

it's also nonsense that high levels of vitamins causes toxicity.. the LD50 ( lethal dose 50 % ) for vitamin C is 11900 mg / kg in rats... LD50 niacin is 4,5 mg/kg however some evidence suggests that''s it's even higher.

if you take 833000 mg ( 833 grams ) of vitamin C you have 50 % of creating serious health conditions... if you take 280 grams of niacin you have 50 % chance on creating serious health conditions.

what will happen if you take 20 grams of vitamin C daily ? well your health will make big leaps forward... vitamin C is a important co-factor for every hormone including adrenaline and cortisol. taking high amounts of vitamins, certain minerals and anti oxidants and amino acids will provide your body the optimal moleculair enviroment.

also bioavailabilty depends on albumine and other transport enzymes ( levels are different for every person ) most minerals have like around 75 % bioavailability... some vitamins have low availability like vitamin C which is 20 %... so if you take 10 grams of regular cheap water soluble vitamin C you only absorb 2 grams.... which is 2666 % ''of the daily recommend value '' ( 75 mg is 100 % ) which is far from taking 830 grams or 100 grams.

cheap vitamins have vitamins low in bioavailability.... you can easily take triple op tenfold recommended dosages described on vitamin bottles.

however you have also vitamin that are highly bioavailable.. those are fat soluble vitamins... there are also vitamin C -ester , which is fat soluble on one end and water soluble on the other end of the atomic structure. 100 % water soluble vitamins pass the body rather quick leaving little time for enzymes to absorb and transport those vitamins.

the side effect of overdosing on vitamins is plain nonsense - the side effects for taking 200 mg of niacin is a slight flush ( vasodilation) which causes a feeling of sunburn for a few minutes and dissapears after tolerance. the effects of high dosages of vitamin B 12 is slight eye pressure...

they are coming off like they are serious health conditions but they are merely slight side effects that pose no threat at all... aspirin is way more toxic than cannabis and vitamins are way less toxic than vitamins.

if you are still afraid of false vitamin propaganda... i eat a raw food diet - i eat raw eggs , raw fruits , raw veggies, raw nuts and seeds, leaves etc. i take about 1000 % value of vitamins and minerals daily aside from my raw food diet... after weeks and months my health issues became less or completely dissapeared.

taking high levels of liposomal vitamin C really worked for me... you can also prepare it in a low speed blender.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeU--wadrMY[/youtube]

one note... if you take high levels of niacin your body will break down more fat, especially if you have a low calorie intake. if you have any toxics stored in that body fat it may cause stress to your system by progressive toxicity. toxics could be metals or minerals like mercury or fluoride, present or previous medications etc . you may become temporarily ill because those toxins will be released from fat and detox out of your system.

if you have used alot of drugs those chemicals can be stored in body fat as well and can also cause sudden hallucinations or trippy like effects when taking high levels of niacin.

caffeine is way more toxic and causes hair loss ( tea also containg fluoride )... caffeine increases adrenaline production ( along with some other hormones ) and causes a increase in cortisol after a caffeine comedown.. cortisol is a stress hormone which supresses the immune system and which can speed up hair loss. Stop taking large amounts of caffeine.... Caffeine is way more toxic and can cause many psychological and physical problems long term including adrenal fatigue and many others.

vitamins are innocent when compared to caffeine...

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The reason you don't have problems with zinc is because of copper. You need them balanced if someone went and got a copper pill and not a zinc or vice versa it would have negative effects. Atleast I believe its copper, I am going off of memory though.


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no , zinc is very poisonious and it can affect the acid-tolerant lining in your stomach. Zinc is also antibacterial and has been used in history for bacterial infections - high dosages Zinc can possibily mess up your gut flora.

it's true that a balanced vitamin/mineral regime balance it out and mute most side effects, i already said that taking copper and iron works. Anyway you shouldn't try taking more than 50 mg of zinc daily , if you decide to take megadosages you shouldn't go above 90 mg.

it also depends on how you take it, if you take 50 or 90 mg of zinc at once of course you are going to experience side effects and problems. you should spread it over the day or you should take slow release formulas. Zinc is one of the more toxic minerals/metals... copper isn't a thread because most phtyonutrients and other vitamins/ minerals have a antagonist affect on copper

Certain populations and cultures have a diet dominant in oysters, oysters can contain up to 70 mg of zinc / 100 gram. i have no clue why these people experience no side effects from high levels of zinc. Like i said there are many unknown factors that have a relationship with zinc... that also explain why some people can tolerate more than others.

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don't go and win doctors advice about this topic, i highly discourage this because your doctor won''t know much about hair loss , diet and alternative health topics. he probably prescribe you some crap which does more harm than good.

if you want to reduce hair loss go take twice the tolerable upper level limit in vitamins and minerals... Increase anti oxidants because high levels of iron are oxidants - so take a increased amount of vitamin E, C, A ( water soluble vitamin A ) and selenium.

B vitamins are nearly incomplete in most food products because they are processed, aside from eating raw processed foods go for B-vitamin supplements - just take a B-100 complex ( contains about 100 mg of each B vitamin ).

i did some study into niacin and it can improve alot of health conditions - however everything above 200 mg releases a large amount of prostglandin ( histamines ) which can''potentially theoretically speaking''' speed up hair loss. Unless you have psychological / psychiatric disorders or health issues like permanent vasocontrictions or high cholestorol problems avoid taking more than 200 mg niacin long term.

i didn't found any increase in hair loss after taking 500 mg to 1500 mg of niacin daily for several weeks...but that's my biochemistry.

if you are bald you should consider cosmetical surgery ( hair transplanting ) there are some cases where molecular medicine ( taking megadoses of vitamins etc) creates regeneration of hair....but those cases are rare or have specific conditions ( after chemotherapy etc ). high dosages of chemicals o nutrients can alter or change gene expression - there is a chance or reverting damage.

i take megadosages of vitamins.. i take almost 1000 % of ''the reccomended daily dosage '' of every vitamin and mineral. I take 75 mg of zinc, some people have side effects from taking 20 mg of zinc and other people have no side effects from even taking 100 mg of zinc... same with vitamins- your personal biochemistry have different mineral and vitamin needs. some people can tolerate alot and some cannot tolerate low dosages.

there is 0 % evidence that high dosages / mega dosages create side effects or health problems - the only micronutrients that create toxicity in high dosages are copper, iron and zinc... however those free radicals can easily be undone with anti oxidants like selenium. Copper and iron are antagonists 0 if you take high amounts of copper, iron and zinc there wouldn''t be many problems... problems starting to happen if you TAKE one mineral in high dosage - because there are no vitamins and antagonistic minerals to balance them out.

( all studies that tried to prove only focussed on taking one factor and disregarding others... like test persons took zinc while fasting or not in combination with other minerals and vitamins... seriously flawed studies )

all recommended daily values are way way too low... i think the upper tolerable intake level should be the normal daily amount.

it's also nonsense that high levels of vitamins causes toxicity.. the LD50 ( lethal dose 50 % ) for vitamin C is 11900 mg / kg in rats... LD50 niacin is 4,5 mg/kg however some evidence suggests that''s it's even higher.

if you take 833000 mg ( 833 grams ) of vitamin C you have 50 % of creating serious health conditions... if you take 280 grams of niacin you have 50 % chance on creating serious health conditions.

what will happen if you take 20 grams of vitamin C daily ? well your health will make big leaps forward... vitamin C is a important co-factor for every hormone including adrenaline and cortisol. taking high amounts of vitamins, certain minerals and anti oxidants and amino acids will provide your body the optimal moleculair enviroment.

also bioavailabilty depends on albumine and other transport enzymes ( levels are different for every person ) most minerals have like around 75 % bioavailability... some vitamins have low availability like vitamin C which is 20 %... so if you take 10 grams of regular cheap water soluble vitamin C you only absorb 2 grams.... which is 2666 % ''of the daily recommend value '' ( 75 mg is 100 % ) which is far from taking 830 grams or 100 grams.

cheap vitamins have vitamins low in bioavailability.... you can easily take triple op tenfold recommended dosages described on vitamin bottles.

however you have also vitamin that are highly bioavailable.. those are fat soluble vitamins... there are also vitamin C -ester , which is fat soluble on one end and water soluble on the other end of the atomic structure. 100 % water soluble vitamins pass the body rather quick leaving little time for enzymes to absorb and transport those vitamins.

the side effect of overdosing on vitamins is plain nonsense - the side effects for taking 200 mg of niacin is a slight flush ( vasodilation) which causes a feeling of sunburn for a few minutes and dissapears after tolerance. the effects of high dosages of vitamin B 12 is slight eye pressure...

they are coming off like they are serious health conditions but they are merely slight side effects that pose no threat at all... aspirin is way more toxic than cannabis and vitamins are way less toxic than vitamins.

if you are still afraid of false vitamin propaganda... i eat a raw food diet - i eat raw eggs , raw fruits , raw veggies, raw nuts and seeds, leaves etc. i take about 1000 % value of vitamins and minerals daily aside from my raw food diet... after weeks and months my health issues became less or completely dissapeared.

taking high levels of liposomal vitamin C really worked for me... you can also prepare it in a low speed blender.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeU--wadrMY[/youtube]

one note... if you take high levels of niacin your body will break down more fat, especially if you have a low calorie intake. if you have any toxics stored in that body fat it may cause stress to your system by progressive toxicity. toxics could be metals or minerals like mercury or fluoride, present or previous medications etc . you may become temporarily ill because those toxins will be released from fat and detox out of your system.

if you have used alot of drugs those chemicals can be stored in body fat as well and can also cause sudden hallucinations or trippy like effects when taking high levels of niacin.

caffeine is way more toxic and causes hair loss ( tea also containg fluoride )... caffeine increases adrenaline production ( along with some other hormones ) and causes a increase in cortisol after a caffeine comedown.. cortisol is a stress hormone which supresses the immune system and which can speed up hair loss. Stop taking large amounts of caffeine.... Caffeine is way more toxic and can cause many psychological and physical problems long term including adrenal fatigue and many others.

vitamins are innocent when compared to caffeine...

So what specifically do people with hair loss talk? What products? Just eat healthier?


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I swim everyday, release estrogen that will combat hairloss. Cardio will work the same way too, but the cholaride in the swimming pool will make your hair look thicker. Also use Nizoral shampoo + Hemp volumlizing shampoo everyday.

Hope it helps.

Don't do propecia, that is no-no, make me disinterest in females, and side effects is will too much, i had nevous breakdown with it.


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So what specifically do people with hair loss talk? What products? Just eat healthier?
yeah eat healthier... and above all have healthy sleep. disturbed sleep - reduced rest and increased stress is a major factor. i don't really believe in most products there is much bullshit going around in that business... if you decide to buy a product try to read legit reviews and testimonials.

people that say it's just genes don't know what they are talking about.. chemicals and especially nutrition affect gene expression. it's not only genes but also gene expression.

diet and sleep are huge factors.. keep that in mind

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Decrease the consumption of refined sugar and carbohydrate food , slow up the consumption of candida , you probably want to avoid wheat bread with candida. Invisible allergic reactions can also give you hair loss most common hidden gentle allergic reactions are gluten,soy and whole milk products allergy.

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Decrease the consumption of refined sugar and carbohydrate food , slow up the consumption of candida , you probably want to avoid wheat bread with candida. Invisible allergic reactions can also give you hair loss most common hidden gentle allergic reactions are gluten,soy and whole milk products allergy.
true...allergies and parasite infections like candida cause hair loss. Wheat bread contains ferretin which slows down absorption of some nutrients - something you don't want.

Gluten is toxic to everyone... gluten is a self defense mechanism of wheat plants to discourage foraging mammals. not everyone is allergic to gluten but almost everyone is gluten intolerant , the degree of intolerance variates. Just do some research, even if you can tolerate gluten it's still detrimental to your health and guts.

I recommend everyone to avoid wheat...spelt, oats and buckwheat are better alternatives. Don't get me wrong here it's ok to eat a piece of bread or to eat a piece of apple pie when you are visitng family - but if you want maximal health benefits you need to excluse gluten and wheat from your diet.

wikipedia just had a update on it's gluten intolerance page with good reliable information... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_int ... en_sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_immunochemistry

aside from gluten... wheat allergies also exist, those are different from gluten and comparable to hay fever and other allergies. a person could have allergic reactions to wheat products but those can come from wheat allergy as well aside from gluten.

if you have any allergy.. for example gluten allergy other allergens which are difficult to digest can trigger symptoms as well. for example gluten allergy/intolerance symptom can be triggered by dairy, eggs, oats and other grains which have proteines that have similar chemical structure like gluten.

Aside from that.. the more carbohydrates you eat the more unhealthy you become, insuline causes alot of disorders and diseases. in order to keep insulin resistance low you have to avoid most carbohydrates , however most fruits are fine - just be carefull with superfoods like bananas. high insuline resistance / production also speed up aging and hair loss.

i personally avoid gluten, however i like wheat plants... wheat fields look beautifull on a hot summer day.

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Fenugreek is awesome.. i recommend everyone with allergies or disorders that cause low energy or libido to eat 2 tablespoons of fenugreek seeds daily. it really does work, i don''t know if fenugreek combats hair loss - however it does have a ALOT of benefits. eating fenugreek leaves etc works but seeds are way stronger.

some people find fenugreek seeds unpallatable... just soak the in water for 3 hours - now the chemicals that cause the bitter taste are dissolved in the water... you have to drink the water to get the goodies, now when you chew the raw seeds you aren't bothered by the bitter taste.

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Decrease the consumption of refined sugar and carbohydrate food , slow up the consumption of candida , you probably want to avoid wheat bread with candida. Invisible allergic reactions can also give you hair loss most common hidden gentle allergic reactions are gluten,soy and whole milk products allergy.
true...allergies and parasite infections like candida cause hair loss. Wheat bread contains ferretin which slows down absorption of some nutrients - something you don't want.

Gluten is toxic to everyone... gluten is a self defense mechanism of wheat plants to discourage foraging mammals. not everyone is allergic to gluten but almost everyone is gluten intolerant , the degree of intolerance variates. Just do some research, even if you can tolerate gluten it's still detrimental to your health and guts.

I recommend everyone to avoid wheat...spelt, oats and buckwheat are better alternatives. Don't get me wrong here it's ok to eat a piece of bread or to eat a piece of apple pie when you are visitng family - but if you want maximal health benefits you need to excluse gluten and wheat from your diet.

wikipedia just had a update on it's gluten intolerance page with good reliable information... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_int ... en_sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_immunochemistry

aside from gluten... wheat allergies also exist, those are different from gluten and comparable to hay fever and other allergies. a person could have allergic reactions to wheat products but those can come from wheat allergy as well aside from gluten.

if you have any allergy.. for example gluten allergy other allergens which are difficult to digest can trigger symptoms as well. for example gluten allergy/intolerance symptom can be triggered by dairy, eggs, oats and other grains which have proteines that have similar chemical structure like gluten.

Aside from that.. the more carbohydrates you eat the more unhealthy you become, insuline causes alot of disorders and diseases. in order to keep insulin resistance low you have to avoid most carbohydrates , however most fruits are fine - just be carefull with superfoods like bananas. high insuline resistance / production also speed up aging and hair loss.

i personally avoid gluten, however i like wheat plants... wheat fields look beautifull on a hot summer day.


But people have toe at things like bananas and wheat bread for bodybuilding/working out. That has to be sacrificed for regaining hair?


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Natural way to stop hair loss
I have been using onion juice for three month and its really help my hair ..i start noting baby hair on my!
Plus drinking fenugreek help to reduce the falling! Drink it on empty stomach!


Where do you get this stuff? Is this all you take? Do you avoid certain things like wheat, gluten as he pointed out? And how much falls out when taking the onion juice. I really don't want to have to go the route of shaving my head while this stuff plays out. Idk I wouldnt look so much youthful with a shaved head. I guess I could use the concealer during this. I only worry though about if I start getting with girls how do I keep their hands out of my head. I don't think I could go all the way with cunnilingus probably.


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Decrease the consumption of refined sugar and carbohydrate food , slow up the consumption of candida , you probably want to avoid wheat bread with candida. Invisible allergic reactions can also give you hair loss most common hidden gentle allergic reactions are gluten,soy and whole milk products allergy.
true...allergies and parasite infections like candida cause hair loss. Wheat bread contains ferretin which slows down absorption of some nutrients - something you don't want.

Gluten is toxic to everyone... gluten is a self defense mechanism of wheat plants to discourage foraging mammals. not everyone is allergic to gluten but almost everyone is gluten intolerant , the degree of intolerance variates. Just do some research, even if you can tolerate gluten it's still detrimental to your health and guts.

I recommend everyone to avoid wheat...spelt, oats and buckwheat are better alternatives. Don't get me wrong here it's ok to eat a piece of bread or to eat a piece of apple pie when you are visitng family - but if you want maximal health benefits you need to excluse gluten and wheat from your diet.

wikipedia just had a update on it's gluten intolerance page with good reliable information... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_int ... en_sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_immunochemistry

aside from gluten... wheat allergies also exist, those are different from gluten and comparable to hay fever and other allergies. a person could have allergic reactions to wheat products but those can come from wheat allergy as well aside from gluten.

if you have any allergy.. for example gluten allergy other allergens which are difficult to digest can trigger symptoms as well. for example gluten allergy/intolerance symptom can be triggered by dairy, eggs, oats and other grains which have proteines that have similar chemical structure like gluten.

Aside from that.. the more carbohydrates you eat the more unhealthy you become, insuline causes alot of disorders and diseases. in order to keep insulin resistance low you have to avoid most carbohydrates , however most fruits are fine - just be carefull with superfoods like bananas. high insuline resistance / production also speed up aging and hair loss.

i personally avoid gluten, however i like wheat plants... wheat fields look beautifull on a hot summer day.

How do you avoid gluten-free products and all this stuff. I'm from the south so basically I have eaten things that people say are not healthy like white rice, white bread, and my mother cooks great homecooked meals and no one's complained but apparently it was never healthy I guess. She even cooked those canned goods that people say are unhealthy as sides but with ingredients to make them tasty. I wouldnt know what things to shop for here.


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don't go and win doctors advice about this topic, i highly discourage this because your doctor won''t know much about hair loss , diet and alternative health topics. he probably prescribe you some crap which does more harm than good.
Good stuff Lodewijkp. How do you feel about rogaine? Thanks for your thoughts!


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