ok here is what my gf told me, after discussing with her this topic, a female opinion lol, unfortunately the op may be right, but is only one girl, there are billions of girls and as you will find out, she had a bad experience with an arab in highschool:

Skills gf survey:

1.- question one, do looks matter?
2.- What about height?

3.- is there a way around that?
4.- What about money?????

What if they dude is arab??
5.-Is there a way around being with an arab?
6.- what about dudes going bald?


so with that being said, the op may be on to something...so my apologies...

This is one girl's opinion. One girl cannot bottom line everything. But this is nothing we don't already know. Girls want someone who is presentable and they are not embarrassed to be seen with. Just like we do.

I'm an Arab and I have great success with women. The very odd time a woman said she didn't like arabs due to past experience I say: "Ya, traditional arabs can be intense".

I never include myself into anyone's generalizations.

Money is bullshit. Take it from someone who actually has money and not some broke dork who can only imagine what having money is really all about. If you use money to impress women it only gets you gold diggers looking for a sugar daddy. Women aren't fucking stupid, they see through all that shit and see the idiots who do this as easy marks or as try hards.

Social status is also bullshit. Most guys fucking hot women have no fucking status. The only status they have is among other retarded dudes in their little group of friends. If status were such a big deal, then every dude with a bit of it would be getting laid like a rock star. And really if you're not a prince, a president or an important political figure, then you have no fucking status worth mentioning.

Lifestyle and social circle don't really add up to nothing either. I mean, who gets to decide you have a cool lifestyle and a very cool group of friends? You? Other dorks like you? It's all subjective. Also, guys who can get into all the parties and have a ton of friends usually fuck the girls who are immediately available to them. And the girls they usually fuck are not that hot. Believe me, I know some of the most influential people in my town and I always see dudes who supposedly have it all taking shit from sub-par chick who has known him all his life.

Thinking that you need all this shit in order to fuck a girl is the epitome of putting women on a pedestal. The truth is that women are much more simpler than most guys imagine. They get horny, they get desperate and they don't have shit figured out any more than any one here does. Perhaps if guys stopped being so in awe of women and stopped thinking that they need a bunch of crap in order to get laid, they'd get laid more often.

This is one girl's opinion. One girl cannot bottom line everything. But this is nothing we don't already know. Girls want someone who is presentable and they are not embarrassed to be seen with. Just like we do.

Most guys with money dont have to try to impress women with their money.

The women are already impressed.

The real moral of the story is that there are many reasons women might find you attractive. If not for looks for your personality. if not for either of those for you kindness or sweetness.

If not for that for your brains,,,,yes some women are attracted to smart guys.

If not for that for your beliefs.

If not for that for you smile or your hair or your bald hair.

or your career or you money.

More often than not it's a combination of all those things.

And most women know they wont end up with a rich guy anyway, there arent as many as there are struggling guys lol.

The message, maximize what you can offer a woman.

Let me ask you serious question???? How does a women when i go clubbing gaming them, know if i have money or not???? And how do they know how much money i have in my bk account?????

No, I am not looking for a pat on the back or any ones sympathy, I don't deserve it, don't want it, and don't need it. And it's funny how you mentioned suicide, I know of men (not personally) who have taken their own lives because they couldn't attract women, and I honestly believe many men who do take their own lives do so because they are lonely and feel helpless.

I do have good social skills, I used to work in a job where I had to deal with all types of people, so I had to know how to both relate and communicate with people, and although I am normally a pretty shy and reserved person, but once I get to know them I do open up and I can talk the legs off a chair. But communication is a two way street, what good are my conversational skills if a woman I am talking to is turning her back on me?, gives me the silent SPAM?, and makes no attempt to participate in the conversation? What you PUAs don't understand is that you cannot force a woman to like you, if a woman is giving me bad body language, she is a non verbal way telling me to get lost, and when that has happened to me, I got the message real fast and walked away, what else can you do? (and no, it wasn't one of those mythical shit tests you PUAs go on about).

With regards to improving my looks,as I have mentioned previously I have lost a lot of weight by going to the gym and eating right, and for my age I at least have a decent body, where most other men have beer bellies or are obese.

I'm an Arab and I have great success with women. The very odd time a woman said she didn't like arabs due to past experience I say: "Ya, traditional arabs can be intense".

I never include myself into anyone's generalizations.

When people say money on this forum, they don't really mean money. There are plenty of very wealth tech geeks who can't talk to women. When people say money, they mean the traits associated with people who tend to be successful (i.e. have money). These are the people who are driven, confident, able to make a sales pitch, etc.

Users on this forum only notice the rich guy getting girls, because that's where the focus is. They don't notice the rich guy in the corner who just builds excel spreadsheets all day, because we don't have our net worth stamped on our forehead. And frankly, a lot of those people who appear rich to others aren't as rich as you'd think.

Just thought I'd add that before the money debate goes on forever. It probably will, anyway.

Ive read enough of this thread. The OP is a lot like me. He does not listen. He is stubborn. He whines about his situation. He blames others. He doesnt see the flaws in his reasoning. He is like me because I have not changed. I am like him and have not had success. He posts like how Ive been posting half the posts on this forum myself. Im sick of this annoying guy. To realize he sounds just like me is just disgusting because the one difference is I have actual belief that PUA works the only thing is I find myself blaming others like him. The real reason for my lack of success is a grand total of about 3 to 4 semi-approaches in my lifetime and a years worth of PUA theory and bs like this OP is doing now. Spend hours a week arguing with PUAs and blaming others. Approach once a year. Fck You OP. You are too ignorant. Im sick of being like this guy and complaining on hours on this forum to maybe magically get a solution from another poster on here. But even if you do get helpful advice, you will never admit it. You will just give it a neutral 'meh' and continue your complaining. Because that is how you get the most out of things. These people on here will continue to help you because they are nice people and put up with your pages of whining but not me anymore. I know all this to be true because I have done it countless times before on this forum. No longer.