The girl is playing you! I'd meet her today and dump her saying that she had not removed the photos or lived up to her end. Then I'd find myself a better person!

Where's your self respect bro?!

I am speechless. you acknowledge that your GF is a liar, most probably a cheater, and you still want to "game" her..
I can see that your line of thought now is "I invested so much in this girl so I want to reap some benefits. plus, how come I cannot tame her into wanting me and me alone?".. that's not the way it works! cut your losses, dump her and move on.

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Kadak, I'm having this problem.

My girl friend acts weird, she lies to me all the time. It's good when I'm with her and I believe it when she tells me stuff. However, she's still thinking about her ex and talking about getting back with him one day. What would you advise me to do?


Take a step back and imagine it was someone else in your situation, there are so many girls, and I know you don't want to admit it, none of us do, but you have one-itus. Why would you think it was working? Simple. Girls adapt to their environments, just the fact that she is even thinking about getting back with this guy totally takes you out of the equation of being the guy she wants to be with.

My advice... READ EVERYTHING on that message I sent you yesterday, trust me, it will take a few hours but it helped me out so much.

As for this girl.... shes a liar. potentially a cheat. My ex who I acted like a blabbering mess of desperation for who lied multiple times I even found out today of someone she got with when we were together. At the time I was oblivious to the real story. She has even got back with her ex before me. At the time I thought she was so honest.

I put a higher value on myself now, and was thinking, If I had a girl friend, what would she be like? not a cheat, not a liar, she would be hot, etc.....

The ONLY way you will win her heart over is to NOT buy her stuff, NOT treat her to stuff, DONT say I love you, fuck her brains out. Get attration up to 80% so she is going mad when she's not with you.

My advice, ditch the bitch. There's so many girls turning 18 every day.

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are you kidding me? she's lied and most probably cheated on you and you still wanna be with her, i dont care if she looks like jessica alba and loves to swallow your man fat, dump the bitch and dont look back.

Like i've said before, the girl i'm with now is the girl i wanna marry but i promise if i see one message, just ONE like you have seen, or if she lies to me just once she will be dumped faster then third period french.

Get some got damn self respect man!! if she hasn't cheated on you already she most certainly will do if you let her keep doing this shit

Just going on what League said now. That sort of attitude actually creates a great format for a relationship - especially if she knows this. She'll definitely think twice before fucking you over with this sort of mentality. Additionally, you'll gain a lot of respect from her as you value yourself highly.

I believe its the only attitude that will develop a successful relationship, what the alternative?

Let her get away with lieing to you? if you do that then she'll put you at a lower value so will eventually dump you when someone better comes along, and trust me when i say its much more effective to be the one dumping her then to be dumped because she's cheated, once your value goes down its very difficult to get it back.

Plus it sends out a message to the other girls she knows, this guy is no mug, hence raising your value with them.

I sense the OP is only being the wuss he is becuase he has no other options at the moment, but trust me the second some other girl comes into your life you'll forget about this bitch, and knowing some girls like i do she'll want you back but at that point you're in more of a position to tell her to do one

The alternative would be becoming passive, accepting and willing to be treated badly because you're too scared to voice your opinion because you might lose her. I really believe in this case... you've already lost her.

Interesting I learnt over the last couple of years, and I hope you'll agree with me on this, that if you view your relationship as a bonus... not the single point purpose of your happiness you can really establish create control in them. For example in my relationship now I'm absolutely loving it, it's fantastic but I know its a BONUS on top of my happiness. I get my main smiles from all the other activities I do, all the self improvement, gym...whatever. In return, what happens? Her attraction for me stays high and we have a great time. Because I'm this like minded I expect my partner to be the same - if she doesn't keep herself in shape, she knows that my attraction is going to drop for her. Have mutual respect for each other to be your best, look your best and keep pushing forward - works for me.

-Flukez

UPDATE:

We were gonna meet on Friday, than she said Saturday morning would be better, cause she s busy. I was like... ok. Than on Saturday she's telling me that she would be here by 6 pm coz she met some friends. Than at 7pm she s texting me that she went to this and that city (where his ex lives BTW, with her girl friends). And she wants to be mine forever bla bla and wants to have sex with me like crazy blah blah and apologized she thought she would be home faster.

I wrote her not to come to my place and she can do whatever the fuck she wanna do. Also added that actions speak louder than words. bye

she replied: niceeee, see you tomorrow.

and now this idiot went to this place today where we were supposed to hang out(it was agreed 3-4 days ago), and texting me now, why i am being late. WTF????

THIS BITCH IS FUCKIN STUPID. THAN I LOGGED INTO HER GMAIL TODAY. THERE WERE PHOTOS OF HER AND HER EX (BEING SENT TO EACH OTHER) PROVING THAT THEY ARE AT HIS PLACE (YESTERDAY), JUST THE 2 OF THEM, BARBECUING AND HAVING FUN. WHAT A FUCKIN BITCH. WHAT A FUCKIN LIAR. SHE ALSO SLEPT THERE WITH HIM.

and now a few minutes ago she shows up at my place, bringing me food what she cooked for me, smiling and shit. THIS SLUT IS FUCKIN STUPID. I "kinda calmy" told her that I know what she did yesterday and to get the fuck out. she was telling me that she didnt do anything wrong. than i told her to get the fuck out agian, and I added "who do you think was the one who told me about this" (just to make her wonder, and make her have crazy thought about her firiends and ex, wondering who is leaking infos.) than she slammed the door and left.

Do you guys think I can still save this? How do I get her back?

Hahah, just kidding She is dead to me from now on.

At least this whole thing made me realize that my inner game has improved a lot over the last 2 years. I know what I have to do and I have the willpower to do it. I ll focus on posting in the LAY REPORTS section from now on

Thank you everyone who contributed and was helping me. This forum is the shit.

Let this be a lesson to all of us. Most women cheat and lie, but not everyone of us is so fuckin stupid to constantly hack into their facebook and gmail accounts all the time.

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Well, this whole thing has been a big exercise in a big hole in your inner game, and that was your skill judging the situation in the first place (taking her back?). By the way, even though it was helpful in this situation, you will never go to a seminar and hear a speaker tell you to read all of her FB/Gmail chat logs if she leaves herself logged on. It was a low-value move. It's a logical fallacy to suggest that just because something was useful in uncovering a breach of trust that it then becomes ethical.

I especially like League's posts, it seems to me like you and this girl were running around having an ambiguous sexual relationship (like the bar story), maybe suggesting the fundamental rules were missed, "I am your boyfriend, you should be proud to have a boyfriend like me", etc. The girl went behind your back, because maybe you'd become more her piece of meat, and less her emotional rock she embeds with total trust and is always open with. But also, this girl, like a lot of HB9-10's in my experience, was a little bit crazy and underhanded, the situation may have been destined to happen.

I hope you still focus on finding a great relationship, you made the right decision in the end, and I'm glad you brought us the online community with you to help so I (and we) could learn from your experience.

Astaire. x

I know it must be hard but if you put your ego aside, ask yourself if you really wanted a future with her and not someone better? Your instincts were right early on about the photos. I think you came out bigger in the end and at least you learned how to dominate her sexually. I think she saw her ex as a provider and you as a lover, which is much better then the other way around.

Guess what, even if she marries the guy you can bet she'll be sucking other dicks. Be happy you're not as stupid as him. I think you just gotta concentrate on building an emotional connection with women. You've handled everything else pretty well.

She lied and cheated so she goes, exactly the outcome I like to see

And I apologize for calling you a wuss earlier, you've proved me wrong.

Onwards to better things for you now

I totally agree
I was being aloof, and somewhat mysterious on purpose. I had to keep my interest level below hers. And not acting needy at all. So my main tools for building connection was a lot of fun dates and crazy mind blowing sex everywhere and lots of it. How should I have done this part better?

Anyway this is kinda how to drive a girl crazy 101.

- I dumped her ass, she was denying everything
- My phone was exploding, froze her out
- She came over to my place and wanted to sleep at the doormat waiting for me to come home. I texted her that I am not coming home for a few days.
- She was attacking (emails, texts, she deleted me on facebook)
- I showed her evidence (I logged into her gmail, sent myself one of the pictures she sent to her ex, as if she mistakenly also sent me this one. Than waited till she deletes all outgoung mails, what se always does. Now that she didn't have any outgoing mails, I showed her in my inbox, that she mistakenly added me to one of her mails -what she did before as well accidentaly)
- She broke, confessed many things I didn't even know
- Again my phone exploded, never picked up, freezout again
- Emails keep coming saying that she loves me with all her heart and cannot live without me (but saying that she know she lost me)
- She is also coming to my place again today after work but I won't be at home

So what I gotta do now is show her a slight chance that lets say "we can meet durning the weekend". But also go out with some girls soon and post photos on facebook. Sending mixed signals.

All this just to have better chances for being fuck buddies in the future. But I'm not even sure I wanna do this, but I just wanna have the option. Not even sure if I wanna exercise it. At this point, I'm not even sure she could get my dick hard, I'm somewhat disgusted of her. Feels strange. I could be fucking anyone else...

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You touched on a point that I agree with but never really hear on this forum. If a girl cheats on me I'll not take her back because of the trust being broken. However I don't know how some guys sleep with their ex as fuck buddies after they have cheated!

Like you I feel repulsed by the girl, like sick to my stomach about the thought of even touching her! I once told an ex straight up that the thought of sex with her made me feel ill lol! She asked why and I said I'm wasn't going near that ever again and pointed to her crotch!

if i were you i would not meet up for the weekend or any other day, i would not respond to any texts either. She did the lowest thing a human can do and should deserve the same SPAM. 0 contact is the way to go.

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for your next gf though you need to cut out logging onto their gmail, shit like that will get you dumped by her