newbie here, first post, only source of info so far is the neil strauss book. got a billion questions and hungry for advice but will limit myself to just telling story of my first self-conscious effort at becoming a p.u.a. practitioner. out at dinner a few nights ago with people from work when i saw a table of six young women (all ranging from 7 to 9 i would say). i immediately approached and sat down, "thanks for saving me a seat" and began what was essentially a ten minute comedy routine, using my "chick crack" knowledge for comedic purposes. i talked about the huna way, explaining the concepts of this theophilosophy using the hawaiin terminology by turning to one woman and saying her mana is strong but her aka is crap, etc, etc. i think i even dealt well with the one difficult woman of the group, i claimed to be telekinetic and said i could unhook her bra strap just by moving my finger (is bringing more than a whiff of sex into a new conversation a mistake?). anyway, i think i can objectively say i had their total attention as they were all laughing hysterically. eventually i had to stop to take a breath and decided to try to talk about their personal lives and and establish my value as man of insight/wisdom. the conversation became semi-labored hereafter.

i said i could guess their college majors and actually got my second try right when i guessed correctly that the woman directly to my left was a nursing student. the difficult woman (a grenade? sorry, need to learn the lingo) said that was "creepy" and began to try to dominate the conversation by asking me a lot of personal questions and refusing to answer the questions i asked her. i should point out that these woman were all 20 years younger than me so maybe it was inevitable that i would cease to be the funny guy and start to be the middle-aged seducer in their eyes, but i did hook up with a college girl last year so i never feel a woman is unattainable due to her age. the grenade wanted to know what i did for a living and i said toothpick baron and deflected other prying questions by feigning homosexuality and trying to keep things funny but the laughter i was getting before was now more like occasional chuckling. i decided to have a make or break moment and said the only way i was staying was if they bought me a beer. i think a few of the women might have taken me up on the offer but the grenade quickly said "well have a good night" and i departed (too!) quickly with a perfunctory goodbye. immediately began self-assessment and was convinced i should have started by talking about "real" things and tossed in the wit/humor more judiciously. any insight or advice is welcome.

also (you can tell i am a newbie by how my self-analysis flies around here) kicking myself for not trying to isolate one woman at the table. her eyes always stayed locked onto mine and if she did not have the doggy dinner bowl look she was most definitely intrigued. when i glanced back at the table several seconds after walking away she was the only one still looking at me. was i pretty much sunk when i walked away from the table or could i have returned 5 minutes later with a line like "i would like to have a few minutes alone with the only lady here who appreciates kahuna wisdom" or something similar? bah, this is hard stuff and i can already feel the obsession creeping in.

the next night i went out again and was determined to plow through any obstacles. i was nearly thrown out of the only decent bar in the town i live in. i'm gonna lie and say beer robbed me of the particular details but i will say the two women i approached were instantly hostile and would not even submit to the bf test. my neg of telling one woman she shouldn't raid her grandma's closet before going out because "shawls are out" didnt strike gold and when i lightly tapped one of the woman's arms in protest she immediately called the bartender over. never experienced that before, guess i just have to deal with that risk

First, read The Four Elements of Game by Zack Bauer. awesome stuff, and it's a good way to get started.

i would say an issue that you had was your entry. i read somewhere that you want to provoke interest, curiosity, or attraction. running in guns 'blazing with a comedy routine will have a great initial impact, but slowly the huge elephant in the room begins to reveal itself: "WHY is he here?" and once the group gets that collective thought, you're pretty much sunk and the "grenade" will damn near tear you apart.

so here's an idea. if you can command attention and keep people laughing, don't use that as your in. use that as what keeps you at the table and defends you from the
"grenade." what i'm saying is, get a better opener. and let your funny personality come out once the group has opened up to you, so they can feel like they made the right decision.

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