[FRJ] Follow my progress from AFC to PUA [3#/4sets]



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:51 am 
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I open this FRJ so everybody can follow and comment on my progress.

In the number at the end of the title, I will keep a counter of the number of opened sets and number/kiss/lay closes that I had in total. [3#/4sets] means four sets opened and three numbers gained.

Today was my first night sarging in Dublin, and with the guys from here, it was Sleek, Hudson, nlppua and me. As it was Tuesday, Diceys was the place to be.

Set 1
The first (2)set was opened by Hudson, we saw the girls (both HB-7's) before when we were on the balcony. They where walking around and looking and we had brief eye contact. When Hudson opened he briefly referred to that moment. Then I quickly opened the girl that I liked with my favorite opener for this night: (I was wearing a scarf in the club) "My friend here thinks that wearing a scarf is a bit gay, but I think that it looks okay" This was a great one, she started explaining that it might be, that on me it looked actually educated (wtf? Never heard that explanation before). I soon found out that they had the same name (ease dropping in the conversation with the other girl and Hudson helped), studied together, and now have a company (health center) together. Even go on holiday's together. So I asked when they where going to get move in together and get married, this resulted in some protesting.

She told me that she lived in Canada for 11 years, and that they are friends now for 8. As they met in college, they must be about 31-34 now, they looked much younger. Unfortunately a song came up that they wanted to dance to, so right when I wanted to number close, they left. We decided to let them go, and look them up later that night.

Set 2
Then when we continued Hudson opened a single girl siting at a table, I didn't see it fit to join, so I opened a two set right next to him. I tried to use the same opener again, which worked at first. Then one of the girls recognized me from a small birthday a month ago. And when I tried to go into that, I found out why I didn't close her then. Both of the girls barely spoke any English and everything they wanted to say, they discussed in Portuguese between them before. So I left them, not wanting to waste any time. Hudson also left the girl next to me, so I went and looked for them.

Set 3
I saw him talking to whats at least an HB-8. He let me into the set and we found out that she was Italian, talked about her nails (they matched her dress), her necklace (which disappeared between her breasts, from which I took it). And about the area where she was from, which I happened to know a little bit about. Unfortunately she also told that she would be leaving Ireland this Saturday. So I asked when the goodbye party was and if I could come. To which she invited me and gave her number (sorry Hudson).

Set 4
This was a good one, as we walked by this 4-set (two guys, two girls - French), one of the guys poked me, a friendly poke. At first I wanted to ignore it, as I didn't know if it was one of the guys or the girls, but nlppua pointed out who did it. So I turned to the group and said "hey, you wanted my attention" the responds of the guys was if my name was "Charlie" I denied and asked why; The glasses and bald head confused them.

I introduced myself with my actual name, so show that I wasn't charlie and I started to ask where they where from (Chicago, Paris, Bretagne and the UK). I sound found out that they all where doing their internship and where part of a social group. I asked a bit about what each of them did, told them a little bit about myself and then wanted to move on because they where actually a bit boring. Only one of the girls got my interest, she was between a HB7/8 and fairly interesting, so I told them that I had to leave, and asked if I could meet her again. She gave me her number right away, after which I said goodbye to the whole group and left them.

At that time the guys already left Diceys. As they wanted to go home. So I went to get my coat, when walking towards the exit with my coat on, I met the girls from the first set. I knew I had to close the on I was talking to before. So with my coat on, I told her that I had an early business meeting (it was 11pm), but that I would love to meet her again. She gave her number right away. After which I said goodbye and left.

In total, being in 4 sets in 2,5 hours isn't that much, I really have to practice more on my opening and my opening anxiety. But after all the results from the sets that I've been in is great. I might check out the goodbye party from the Italian place. I do visit the city she lives in a couple of times a year, and I'm definitely taking the girl from the first set out on a day 2.


What do I need to improve for now:
1) Opening my own sets successfully
2) Kino escalating


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Just a short update, the longer one will follow tomorrow. In general it was a shit night, to many guys (yeah I know, it shouldn't matter).

Opened a few sets, but one (4)set of girls I kept running in to. One of which I did not just isolate, but also got her number, kiss closed AND she invited me to her birthday this Friday :shock: And she didn't want to stop kissing. I feel amazing right now 8-) , don't know exactly what I did, so I'll put up the extended version for analysis soon.


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23rd of April
So the kiss close of last week is kind of lame, she doesn't reply to my messages. So I will forget about her.
I did send a text to the girl from Saturday. That was kind of fun. But not really successful, which didn't really matter actually.

Why did I start this post then you'll think, well simply because I do some online gaming as well, this might not belong here strictly but it fits in my AFC -> PUA transformation. I'm doing almost daily gaming on a Dutch chat website. I prefer battles against other guys, which 9/10 times I win (and when I loose, it's because I'm not trying or not interested), which is good for my ego.

Funny thing is, none of these girls a pushed away by the fact that I live in Dublin (although my profile states Utrecht- NL), they find it highly fascinating. So, this Thursday till Tuesday I'll be in Utrecht, and most of these girls (I'm in touch with about 20 now) want to meet me. So I decided to meet two, as I never have the time to meet all of them. One I choose not because she's good looking, but she's up for anything, sending me pictures of her playing with several toys. And the other is a very cute girl, looks great and we get along very well, the only issue there is that I would love to sexualize the situation, during a lunch...

Any tips? Because we're meeting in city that I don't know that well, will she pick the venue (which sucks, I know). I won't be able to sleep with her right that day (meeting my parents a few hours later), but I'm going back another time not to long after that anyway.


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So an update of this last week. I'm not writing about my weekend in the Netherlands, because although a lot happened, I didn't intend to go sarging.

Friday 11-05
I went to meet Sleek and Rover at The Grand Social, we talked a bit, walked around but there wasn't much to see. On our way out Sleek tried to open a set, but it was to noisy. My mood was going down a bit.

Then we went to the 4 Dame Lane, Rover opened a set which I didn't want to get involved in. So Sleek and I waited, when we finally went in side, Rover left us for a moment. We went to the bar and I ordered some drinks. When asking what Sleek wanted, a random girl answered, they seemed to be with a group (6 or 7 don't remember), the girl with the big mouth had her birthday. I tried to talk with the group, to find out if I could isolate a target. But I couldn't really grasp their attention. It was probably my mood, which at that point was still very low.

We walked upstairs, (Rover was still gone) and didn't really find any good sets to open, so we just started dancing, at an almost empty dance floor. We walked around for a bit when Rover joined. Ending up on the dance floor again. The dancing got my vibe going, then we decided to leave. Outside Rover opened another set outside, during which Sleek and I waited. A three set walked by and in the club, but one of the girls stayed outside to smoke. I discussed with Sleek where she was from and decided to open her with this question. To complete the picture, she was a 7 or 8 and dressed up a bit in a Russian style, I was wearing a striped shirt and jeans and had a lollipop.

She had to laugh about my opener and gave away directly that she was Irish (which I could tell as well from her accent). I don't really remember what we where talking about. Just that we had a lot of fun and that Sleek helped me to get rid of her big Polish friend, who came to check upon her. I continued to lick my lollipop (this sounds more gay then it is), when she asked if she could have one, I asked her is she's always that spoiled, which made her laugh. I told her that I would trade it for a date, she agreed on that, gave her number. Then we wanted to go, but had to wait a bit for Rover.

We went to Dakota. Sleek and me walked around a bit, didn't see any good sets, and on our way back to the entrance, he spotted two girls, a 7 & 8. He used a situation opener and introduced me into the set. I started talking to the 8 and found it hard to find the right topic which grasped her interest. She was from Jordan and moved here to become a doctor. Sleek signaled that he wanted to move on and I build up just enough rapport to get her number, but failed to kino.

After Dakota, Sleek suggested to go to a place he didn't go before, Samsara Bar, a really cool venue, a good place to bring a date, but it was really quiet. So we left and went to Café en Seine (our last hope). One of Rover''s friends joined, and we walked around when upstairs we ran into a 4 or 5 set, the group was changing a bit, so I couldn't really figure it out. We all opened one of the women, they seemed a bit older, where I couldn't get the full attention of my initial target. So I shifted targets when she went to get a drink. With my second target I was able to build up some kino and rapport. But she wasn't that spectacular, so I #closed her and signaled to others that I wanted to move on.

Rover suggested to meet some of his friends at the Czech Inn, before that we just hopped in the Turkish Head, where I opened a Spanish 2set, but her English was horrible and I wasn't in the mood to try. The horrible transvestite that hoovered in the corner of my eye didn't make it any better. So I signaled the others that I wanted to leave.

In the Czech Inn on the dance floor there was a cute Russian looking girl. But she was just standing there, so I grabbed her hand and started dancing with her. I found out that she was from Moscow and just visiting a friend for a few days. This conversation didn't really go anywhere so it just continued dancing until I left for home.

I found out that I have to get a way to get my energy up. And work on my KINO, because I really suck at that part.
Also time shifting and my text game needs development.


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FR of Diceys 15-05

The night didn't start out great, I spotted Will.I.am (also know as KeyMaster) as soon as I walked in, which didn't help with my mood, as I slept very bad the night before.

- quick info, Keymaster was told that he wasn't welcome in our Lair anymore due to very anti-social behavior. We didn't accept this, as we are a group of friends first and a Lair second (and even in a Lair this behavior wasn't acceptable).

I went to the balcony (VIP area) and met with Hudson and Apollo, we hung out a bit and decided to go for a walk around downstairs. As soon as I entered the floor, Will.I.am (KeyMaster) was looking for a confrontation, where the bouncers had to take him off me. He didn't harm me, but threatened me verbally and by text.

Anyway, due to all of this, my mood was extremely low, but I decided not to let him in my head, I didn't want to give him this satisfaction. So when we where back on the balcony, Sleek and Rover found their way to D's as well. Sleek opened a set next to use, Rover disappeared and I spotted a girl in a 5 set (3 girls 2 boys) but she was looking around and seemed bored.

I went for it remembering Adam Lyons saying, that these girls are guaranteed to talk to you. I opened her saying that she looked bored, which she confirmed, and she almost immediately turned her back to the group, facing me. Major IOI according to me! Another technique of Adam Lyons is asking her about her favorite things, then you are guaranteed to have a conversation that she is interested in, wine was her passion. I asked her what the best place was for her to get good wine, to which she answered "Ely's" which is a standard answer for anyone living near Grand Canal. So I told her about a little Italian restaurant that has great wines (don't know, I know shit about wines, but it's an assumption) - La Dolce Vita. Which roughly means "the good life" a motto that I like to live by as well. I told her this and invited to join me there. We continued talking for a bit, and then I number closed her with a time shift.

So then I started hanging out with the others again, my mood became a bit better already, but I still was very tired and not really interested anymore. It was around 23h already and I decided to go home. I spotted a lonely black girl sitting next to the way to the toilets and I decided that on my way back, I would try to open her.

When I came back, I opened her with the question "did you friends leave you alone" when she answered me with "No English, No English" My first thought was, 'damn, another f*cking Brazillian' but then I decided to make the most of it. We tried to had a conversation, I got that she lived in D1 (didn't ask that, but I ignored that ) worked as an electrical engineer but is here now to study English for a year (wow, the surprise! Sorry for my sarcasm, I was able to hide it for her). She just moved here a few weeks ago (nice, so she is 'fresh'), and her English kind of ended with "Hello, No English! Bye" So she asked if I could translate, thank god I just got my phone back earlier that day, and I did install Google Translate! So I gave her my phone, but she needed some help, so I moved closer to her, which gave me the perfect ability to KINO. Which I did a hell lot of! I stroke her back and when she had my phone, put my hand to rest on her knee.

As the conversation continued, I made longer strokes, up to her neck and her ass. She really seemed to enjoy it, so I asked her for her number, which she didn't know (she didn't have her phone on her), but she gave her e-mail instead. I continued talking to her, where I had to laugh a lot, because she tried to talk without the translation (which I encouraged and admire) but ended up asking my phone instead. In the mean time, Sleek couldn't find me and called me twice where I was at, I explained him but he couldn't find me apparently. When he finally found me, my hand was under her jacket that she kept in her lap. At some point I was stroking her neck and put my face close to hers, as if I was looking at the screen with her. I turned my head when she was done writing, when she pushed her lips on mine. From that point I had to use a crowbar to get her off me of course I continued KINOing, stroking her legs as well. When she released me, she sighed with satisfaction, from that time we kissed a couple of times, always making sure that I was the one releasing first and not forgetting to KINO.

At a certain point it was a 23h45 and I really wanted to go, she made me promise that I contacted her and that she wanted to meet me this Saturday (it had never been this easy with me). I tried to make her go to the exit with me, but I think that she understood that I wanted to take her home with me, she answered with "next time". Well, that's fine with me anyway, so I left her and went home as I didn't see any of the others anymore.

What went well according to me?
I was proud that I went anyway, considering all that happened and how I felt. The numbers that I got seemed genuine. (The black girl already e-mailed back within the hour).
And I KINO'd, the first time that I was trying it, and basically had to rely on it.

What went bad: well a kiss close is kind of an easy way to end it. I should have gone either all the way (take her home) or build up sexual tension and use that on a day2.
I should have build up a little bit more rapport with the first girl, there wasn't really anything there, I was just a way to distract her from her boring friends.


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Date/Lay report 19-05

So, my date, we arrived exactly at the same time. Which is good, because I was a few minutes late.

I set op the whole evening in Adam Lyons style, so prepare everything the way you want to end it. At home the light, curtains, music, etc was set up. I also had a couple of reasons in my mind to bring her to my place (food, drinks, sitting quiet).

I wanted to take her to the No Name Bar, but I thought that this would be a bit too far at first (we met at the Ha'Penny Bridge, as she didn't know Dublin). We kissed on the cheeks and to Morgans, as they have beds outside(!). I placed her on one of the beds (which thank god was still free), and set down next to her. Keep in mind we kissed already in Diceys on Tuesday.

We chatted a bit about everything and nothing, making sure that I kept her talking. After about an hour I tell her that I want to show her another place, I put my arm around her and we do walk towards the No Name Bar. In the NNB it was a bit crowded, so we ended up standing in the corner. I totally failed to position her correctly, so she ends up in the corner, with me with my back to the rest of the room. I make sure to take her hand a few times, fig her a hug when she can't find words etc. We continue to talk a bit and she tells me after a while that she wants to go for a walk. I suggested to go to St Stephens Green, knowing that it is closed, and that the next part (also closed) is around the corner of my place.

This goes perfect, I forgot to say that during the whole evening, I kept KINOing. On the way from St. Stephens Green towards my place (well she doesn't know that we are going there), I stop her and just kiss her, which she answers at first. But then she stops me and says that she wants to sit on a bench (awesome, my plan was working!). So I tell her that the other park is around the corner. When arriving there, we gate is also closed (just as I expected), I tell her that I know a place in the next street where we can sit quiet.

She follows, nice and quiet, wants to sit on the bench at a busstop (wtf, I'm not 14 anymore!), when we arrive at the gate of my apartment, she doesn't even hesitate. She does ask if I live alone, which I confirm, she still is not totally convinced, so I tell her that she can leave anytime she wants. Then I just start walking into the building and up the stairs, not checking if she is following (I watched Adam Lyons videos for a couple of hours today). In my apartment she's really impressed (she lives with 4 people in a two bedroom apartment, I live alone in a two bedroom apartment). The lighting is set up nicely, on one of the chairs there is paperwork and I throw my coat on the other one, so she has to take a seat on the couch (I thought all of this out).

We start making out, I lean back a bit so she almost automatically leans over me. I pull her on my lap as she is small and light (the size of Spirit's girls), she freaks out for a second, she probably thought that I was going to take her to the bedroom. That's not for later. We continue kissing, my hand slides under her sweater and I squeeze her ass gently. Very quickly she takes her sweater off, leaving just her bra on, which I undid with one hand (nice, I love doing that). We continue making out, going with on hand between her legs (she's still sitting sideways on my lap). Giving me a bit of a hard on already.

After stroking around between her legs for a while, do I want to move my hand inside her panties, when she stops me, so I try another move of Adam. Which is counting to 5 and telling her before, I count to five and then I continue, otherwise you move beside me. She didn't move so I continued, then she stops me again and I think, wtf is going on here. At which point she finally tells me, that she is on her period. FUCK! There I am, fully dressed, with a massive hard on, a girl on my lap in just her panties, telling me that she is on her fucking period! She tells me that she really wants it, so I suggest to go to the shower or to the bathtub. She doesn't want to do that. I tell her to come back later and she confirms.

We continue making out a bit, she puts her bra back on, I try again, saying that I understand, but that it's fine with a leather couch or in the bath or shower (my little head thinking). Then she puts her sweater back on and looks as if she's leaving. I pull her back on me, but she resists a bit, so I get up. Help her to adjust her sweater, pick her up, kiss her again and walk toward the door with her in my arms. She puts her coat back on and walks behind me down the stairs, when I guide her out of the building and gate. There I give her a quick kiss goodbye and point her which way is Temple Bar.

So here I am, she left an hour ago, still totally horny, a little bit frustrated, but some texting that I'm doing with some Dutch girls make up for that. Now I'm going to meet Hudson in the center.


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Chat report 20-05

Ok, first I'll do a field report, to put the chat lower in this post in perspective:

On a friends party, over a month ago, I started to open and have friendly conversations with a lot of people. I already was pre-qualified because I was very close with the host and she introduced me to a lot of the people. I started chatting with several pretty girls, Spanish, French, Italian, etc. During the evening I noticed and smiled a few times to a very cute, small girl, easily a HB-10.

One of the guys (Hungarian) I was talking to, was telling about his guest from Madrid, a very beautiful Peruvian girl, which was sleeping already in his bed for a few nights. Nothing happened, but this night was going to be the night! This made me laugh, because if nothing happened the first nights, what was he going to different tonight? And he was getting drunk already.

At the end of the night, most people left already, I was talking to one of the (German) girls that I was talking to earlier, she had a BF, but was nice and I enjoyed her company for the moment. Then this cute girl I had eye contact with throughout the night joins the conversation, she speaks German as well, so we continue talking about a stupid stuff (as in, I don't remember). After a few minutes the German girl leaves with her BF and I stay in there with this cute girl. I keep the topic going, as I try not to seem to interested in her. I try to switch to English, my German is rusty and I don't want to show lower value by not being able to speak the language properly.

She says that her English isn't good enough, I accept that, as her German is on the same level as mine. Then I ask her where she's from, when she says Peru, I make the connection with the dude from before. So I ask her if she's visiting her boyfriend (emphasizing it, I knew he wasn't, but it gave her the chance to start about any boyfriend, it's a bit risky, but it was late and I didn't want to waist energy, because at that time I wanted to go home), she deny's having any BF. We start talking a little about nothing in particular, I KINO a little and after a while I feel that I don't have much to say anymore. I was tired of speaking German, she lived in Madrid and still studying, neither of these things attracted me. So I told her that I was about to leave and enjoy the few day's she had left in Dublin.

She asked me for my name and I asked her for hers. She told me that she was going to be back in Dublin in a few months time and that she's staying a bit longer, then she wanted to meet me again. Which I answered that this is cool and that most of the guys she knew, knew me very well, so just to put the word out and meet me in a bar or club.
I wasn't even home (okay it was half an hour walk), when I got a friend request on Facebook, it was this girl.

Since then, the often responds to my posts, likes stuff that I say or upload, or starts talking to me. Today I decided to invite her to a party (event) on Facebook, knowing that she wouldn't come anyway, but just to see how she would respond. The next thing happened half an hour ago, an hour after I sent the invite (remember, she barely speaks English, so that's why the Spanish and German):

Cute Peruvian Girl
I am so sorry but i think I could not go at the tiem because i have tu study for my exams and i wont be able to travel... i am sure there will be more oportunities to go and i could
thanks for your invitation... besos guapo...(thanks handsome)
si existe un milagro yo voy... (if a miracle happens, I will come)

Mr Driver
That makes me sad ;(

Girl
oh... noooooo

Mr Driver
when are you done with your exams?

Girl
from 3 to 15 june

Mr Driver
ooh, busy weeks for you now

Girl
I have 9 exams

Mr Driver
I am sad to know that your beauty is off the streets of Madrid the next weeks

Girl
me too... I have a lot of stress
Mr Driver
I know how you feel, same here

Girl
but I'm going to Dublin in July I go a few days.

Mr Driver
Nice! Do you have an idea already when in July?

Girl
no
prepare a party that I´ll be first (she meant here, that if I prepare a party, she will be the first to respond and show up, other Spanish friends talk in a similar way sometimes).
Mr Driver
Haha! I will do that, we will make a great party
just bring the sun with you, because we don't have any, then we can throw a BBQ

Girl
great.....
me gusta esta idea (I like that idea)
not worry, whenever I'm in dublin the sun is shining.

Mr Driver
People said that about me, too, didn't really work out unfortunately

Girl
oh no
trust everything will be perfect

Mr Driver
you're setting high expectations now, I expect you really are going to make an effort

Girl
ja, klar (yes, sure)
all is posible

Mr Driver
Good, can't wait for you to impress me

Girl
wow.. interesting
warte in juli ist besser
Mr Driver
Ich warte biss juli

Girl
ja bis juli (yes, till july)
ok schön , ich muss schlafen jeztz (ok, good, I have to sleep now)
morgen ist great day (tomorrow is a great day)

Mr Driver
I have to go too, have an important meeting at [insert famous company] tomorrow!
sleep well! Good luck with studying!

Girl
thanks and Good luck whith your meeting
muack..
schlaf gut. (sleep well)

Mr Driver
Que duermas bien, magnífica (sleep well beautiful)

Girl
gracias duermas bien guapo. (Sleep well, thanks handsome)
ciao

Mr Driver
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Diceys 22-05
(we have access to the VIP area, which is a balcony hoovering over/around the big beer garden.

I arrived at Diceys around 9pm, which was later then usually. I had to give a presentation before, at that event they kept giving me drinks, without having the opportunity to eat. So when I arrived, I was tipsy, might even have been drunk.

The first thing that I did, was getting some water, then walked up to see Sleek, who was accompanied by Rover and MegaMadrid. We started talking and Rover told me about a new opener that he wanted to try, so I pointed at a girl who was about to walk by and to use it on her. I tabbed her on the should and told her that Rover wanted to ask her something.

I didn't feel very comfortable going out sarging when drunk, so I got another glass of water and went for a walk downstairs with Sleek. We opened a few sets, mostly having just fun. I ran into a girl I opened and went on a D2 with when I just started sarging. So talked with her for a minute, to catch up with Sleek again after. We decided to go up to the balcony again.

I walk first and we passed a set with a few guys and girls, one of them (facing me with her back) is wearing a hat. I decide to grab it and put it on my head, partly covering my face. She quickly turns around, not knowing what to say, I didn't know anything to say either. But luckily Sleek takes the hat from me, and says "Hey! What are you doing with my hat". Ten I saw her, she was for sure a HB9, slim, small with a very cute face. One of her friends takes the hat away from Sleek and we continue walking.

We had some more fun, walked around, talked to several other sets, when I spotted the girl with the hat again, she was standing against the railing, appearing to be texting, but also a little bored. I told the guys to stay put and walked up to her, using the opening line "Are you bored, that you start to have a conversation with your phone" not really brilliant, but she responded a little laughing and finished her text. I almost wanted to walk away when she answered that she wasn't bored but had to send that text. I ask her what she does and she tells me that she has a job interview at a financial institution tomorrow and that she's fund manager. At that time one of her friends grabbed her arm, this friend came in very aggressive, I wanted to save the situation, saying that I had to go back to my friends, making sure that I left before her friend actually had the chance to take her away.

We went for another tour through the downstairs area, danced a bit in the dance area, opened a few sets again, but nothing special in particular. Sleek and I decided to go up to the balcony and decided where to go from there. At that moment I see the girl with the hat walking up to me, she opens me and I find out that she's Brazilian (wow how surprising - this was sarcastic btw) and only lives here for 2 months (which did surprise me, as her English was pretty ok). I asked her what her favorite place in Dublin is. And she answers right away, without thinking "My bed" which stunned me for a second :D But I came back nicely (at least that's my opinion) saying "wow, I wanted to ask you to show me your favorite place, but asking you to show me your bed, might be a bit too much for now"

She laughs about my comment and I say "I will tell you about mine, as you don't have a favorite public place" I know that this isn't the best way to do it, but I didn't want to ask another question. So I start introducing the seduction lounge. I tell her "you know what, instead of telling you all about it, why not meet up and I'll bring you there. When do you have time?" She says that the interview is a 4pm, so after 5pm tomorrow (today that is), I answered "Okay, I have a meeting till 5:30pm, I will call you when I'm done, what's your number?"

We continue talking for a few more minutes, then I wish her good luck on the job interview and turn back to Sleek, who seemed to be a bit confused to see what just happened :D We decide to walk to the short side of the balcony and there I see a tall blond girl of who I know that she used to be a colleague and I see at a lot of parties/venues. I walked up to her, kissed her on the cheeks when Sleek makes a comment about us going to speak Dutch (she looks kind of Dutch), her friend (shorter, dark hair) corrects him that she's German, which she confirms. Her friend makes a comment about Sleek being French, when I make a joke that he can't be, because he's my brother. When turning back to the blond girl, I ask if she goes to the party of she says she doesn't know him, but I'm sure she does (have seen her at their house before). I tell her to send her an invite, and ask her number. Quickly after she wants to go and I agree, because she's a bit boring at that time.

We go for another tour through Diceys and then leave the place.

Still a good night, looking forward for my D2 for this afternoon, I surprised myself how much you can do with forgetting about what to say next, but just thinking about where you want to go.


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I think that I made some major process yesterday!

Just after 6pm I called the girl with the hat. She was one her way to the city center, so we agreed to meet in Temple Bar half an hour from that moment. Then I would take her to a nice place (didn't decide yet).

Suddenly (about 10min before we're supposed to meet) she sends me this:
"Have a problem if I go with a friend (girl)?"
- It's Nicer with just the two of us..."
":-D She will stay only to drink 1 punt, then she will go... Ok?!"

I didn't answer that, but send her instead: ":-) where are you now?" from there the conversation was about where she exactly was.

She was a quays bar with this, also good looking, friend, they where sitting a a bar table, on either side, leaving a stool for me between them. I ordered a round of drinks for them and sat down, I noticed that from this position I could actually KINO without being to obvious! We talk about different things, differences between countries, they tell me all about their home towns. I spend most of my attention towards her friend, showing that I'm don't agree. I notice that because of this my date is trying to qualify herself towards me. And she's touching my hand and knee several times, increasing this gradually as the time progresses. I KINO her back, touching her knee, and hand. She starts giving me the "I want to kiss you" look, she kissed me on the cheek when she goes to the toilet.

When she came back from the toilet, I was leaning on the table, with my arms crosses, and my hand hanging of the table on my dates side. With most of my body and face turned towards her friend. As soon as she sits down, she takes and holds my hand. I squeeze and she returns this. When I adjust my seating position, she takes my other hand, and I lay it to rest on her knee. At that moment her friend decides that it's time to leave. As soon as she left the place, I get up to move location, but lean in to my date, just before I'm about to turn and kiss her.

From the pub, I first wanted to go to Pinxto's (Tapas) but realized that we couldn't sit in a great way. So continued to walk towards La Dolce Vita, unfortunately they moved all the tables outside and there we could only sit opposite of each other. I decided to ask if they could move our table inside, which they did. I ordered some food and wine for the both of us (she seemed to like it). During dinner we had some small talk, about a job that she wants here (at an investment company) and other stuff. After the dinner I want to move again. She suggests to go to her place (nice!).

We decide to walk, it's about 10min from the restaurant. Then she tells me that she lives with 6 women and shares her bedroom, at that moment I realize that she lead me to this situation, where we couldn't do anything. I tell her that I have a place of my own, so that we can sit and talk quietly, and that I'm not going to sleep with her that night anyway, because I'm not that kind of guy. When we arrive at her place, she takes me to the bedroom, where there are three beds. She starts rolling a joint, and lights it. I sit down in the windowsill (one leg out of the window, the other one inside) and she joins me there. We start smoking and kissing, where as I make sure not to take to much.

When the joint is finished she sits down on her bed, taking my hand and pulling me on top of her. For the next hour or so we keep kissing and touching each other, where she keeps telling her that I'm dangerous and I reply with that she's a bad girl and makes me do this. In the end I'm getting tired of doing nothing, so I tell her that I want to sleep beside her. She agrees with that, when I add that I don't want to do it here, but in a more comfortable place. She tells me again that I'm dangerous, and I say that I'm going, with or without her. That she can take some clothing and sleep at my place. She doesn't want to, so I put my shoes back on and take my bag. She pulls me back on the bed, but I lift her up, turn her around and set her on the floor. Telling her that I have to go. I felt only at this time that I was getting the control back.

We kissed for a few minutes again and then I left. Outside I realized that there were no taxi's in that part of town, so I had to walk, which pissed me off a bit

Plus: I made her qualify towards me, I kino'd.
Minus: I let her take control and shouldn't have agreed going to her place I think. Or is should have handled differently, because somewhere I think that I could have F-closed her.


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This is about the texts that I send to the girl described in the post above.

After our date and ending up in her place this conversation happened:
She texted me the next day around 22h
- Hey there!!
- How are you?
* Hey I'm fine thanks, how about you?
- Hi...
- I'm ok! Any plans for the weekend?
- Kisses
*Good to hear. I'll going to a friends b-day tonight, tomorrow there's a summer party. What about you?

I didn't get an answer to that, so I send two days later this:
* Hi, let's go to a festival today, it's in the city, starts at 1. Kiss

I didn't get an answer either, so I knew that I made a mistake. I was reading the text material that we talked about last Sunday and I received of Apollo, I was reading this afternoon, when I received a message around 16:30:
- Hey there...
- How are you?
- Xx

I answered at midnight and she responded right away, the following chat appeared:
* Hey Girl that makes me do bad stuff. I'm fine thanks. How are you? X (she was telling me when we met that I made her do bad stuff, so used that against her).
- Bad Stuff?? Why?
- I'm fine too...
- Xx
* You don't remember anymore? What are your plans for the weekend? Kiss
- I remember only the good stuff... Hehehe
- I don't have plans yet, and you? X
* Let's keep it that way
*There's a party in the Turks Head on Friday, might go there and a friends B-day on Saturday. X (I realized after sending that I didn't have any question there, kind of pissed me off, but she responded anyway).
- Brazilians party at TH at fridays, no?
* Yeah, seemed okay to me. Want to join? X
- I don't no... Hehehe
- Maybe!!
- Xx
* Let's meet around 10pm for a drink before. Xx ( this was my answer as a "Maybe" should always be understood as a "Yes")
- Ok! Why not?! =)
- Keep in touch..
- Xx
* Sleep well! Xx
- You too...
- Have a good dreams!!!
- Xx

I think that I recovered pretty well, I tried to implement the first two chapters of the Love Systems book. Any comments please?


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