Hi watch. Welcome to the forum.

First of all, back off just a bit. Some girls can take more of that just as some guys can. Also, the closer you are to a person makes a difference too, obviously. I'm sure you know that. Anyway, back off just a bit. Watch her body language. That's a big key to how she still feels about you. Is she closing herself off to you? Or not? If you have really hurt her, then just apologize, ONCE. Let her know you're sincere. Then, move on and be yourself, just making sure that you don't go overboard on the negging.

hey dude.. if i recall you're currently married and have been married a few times... yet in this marriage i'd like to hear how you established the whole swingers aspect with your wife as you seem to go out and still pick up and sleep with other girls.
Were you both swingers from the start?
Do you go out just to bring women home to share?
Does she go out and sleep with other guys as well or is it just you?
etc etc.. i'm quite interested to understand this as from what i understand, you're the only one that goes out and she doesn't seem to care

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Tripp, I am so excited that you answered this question that MS. Zip asked. I find in my experiences, that being a gentlemen is a good starting point for trying to become a PUA, at least in my understanding of it. I am a member of the league of extraordinary gentlemen.

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Hi Tripp,

It's me again.

How many calls should I call before I say f* it? Then when she call back (after a long while), should I f* it or continue the time bridge?

Good questions.

We mutually agreed to the swinger lifestyle. We started after we were married. To be blunt, I took her virginity. I knew she was curious, like anyone would be, what someone else would be like. I wanted her to find out, so we talked about it and mutually agreed to it. We set ground rules, which I won't go into.

Yes, I pick up girls to bring them home to join us. I also have a blast while I'm out, but I'm not out with the intention of SNL's although there have been opportunities. She doesn't go clubbing on her own. She's not the type to go clubbing much. She does at times go out with me. She doesn't sleep with other guys now, mainly because the ones she has been with, ranging from the average joe to pretty well known area celebs, have not come near pleasing her the way I do. So, her curiosity has been quenched. She's told me so in her own words, aside from what I saw with my own eyes. She still likes women, but other men have no appeal to her anymore. Anyone we have been with has been in the presence of each other, and there are many humorous stories, which I won't get into, lol. Mainly because it would sound like I'm bragging, which I don't set out to do. It's quite funny, though, what men do. How they lack certain skills and things that should be obvious. It's actually been through our experiences that I've learned just how inept men are, and just how much of a "natural" I found out I am. Every man or woman she has been with has wanted more of her, and every woman I've been with has wanted more of me. I guess that says something for both of us.

She doesn't care that I go out and pick up women, because she knows what's going on. She knows about every girl I pick up. She knows how far each pick up progresses. Obviously she knows if a girl has enough promise to bring her into our bedroom. I don't bring just any girl in to join us. She has to have many qualities. She must take care of herself, be very attractive, have a personality, a sense of humor, among other things. She has to click with both of us. At that point, the three of us have a blast.

fortunehooks, being your dude, I couldn't let you down bro.
Just remember, don't lose the gentleman side of yourself, but don't let it overrule everything else either, lol. You must still maintain your frame, but I know you will.

Hey LoveBomb. I wouldn't give more than two. Sometimes the girl has a good, legitimate reason for ignoring you, but until you find out, you can't be needy either. When she calls back, go ahead and answer. Give her a shot. See if she's playing or not. But make it clear that that's her last shot, if she's actually been playing with you before that. She has to straighten up or hit the road. You don't have time to mess with a girl that's gonna play around. So, if she's serious, continue the time bridge.

that's interesting tripp.. i figured all that except the one thing that surprised me is that you established the swinger lifestyle after you got married which is quite the rarity. Virtually all of my relationships have been the same way as the swinger lifestyle is what i've lived by since i've gotten good with women.

by the way, where in cali are you moving to

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Dear Tripp,

I heard somewhere that women are creatures of infinite curiosity. Yet you seem to have tamed this rule by satiating an unquenchable thirst. Could this be true, or is it merely a mirage in the sandstorm of our lives?

1) I've been busy recently and have had very few sarges. While they have all been successful at various stages of the M3 model, I feel as though I may regress after so much time off between them. Do you feel this effect when you take a break from the action for a week? How do I combat this?

2) Have you ever had to make a choice between career and women? If so, what choice did you make?

3) How often do you use the word "So" to transition inside of a conversation? I detect women using this a lot, so I assume I should refrain from using it so as not to come off so interested in the initial stages of a sarge. So.

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Actually most of the swingers we've gotten to know also started after they were married, although some were before they were married.

Somewhere around the L.A. area. We have to take care of another issue before we can start setting specific plans into concrete.

Actually, lol, I've TRIED to get her to be with more men, but from what she's experienced . . . they have no lure to her anymore. Well, I normally don't take a break for that long, lol, but YES, when there are days between, and the stress level is really high, then I do also feel that regression. That's perfectly understandable. How to combat it? There's really only two ways that I know of. Keep studying, and when you ARE out, social when possible. I'm always looking for opportunities when I'm out. Work on your body language too. The last couple of days, I have been in one of those periods of extreme high stress, and therefore not to "open" to opening people up, but, apparently because of my body language, 9's and 10's have been opening me.

So, my advice when you CAN'T open sets is to continue to study the material and work on your inner game. That will help to keep the regression down a little. Your inner game WILL progress and grow, and will show in the field. THEN, you'll just have to battle AA again, lol. Yeah, actually, with my current wife. We met at the same work place. Got involved there. Kept it under wraps for a while, but considering her cousin was my major competition at the job, not to mention the bosses pet, it created a LOT of tension at the work place eventually. So, although the boss was married himself, yet fucking two other women we worked with, he started taking measures to keep me and her apart. Needless to say, I chose the girl, and have never regretted it. LMAO. So, I probably have done it some. So, actually, I DO use it at times.
LOL, yes I do that myself. Sometimes I do it purposely actually, and sometimes I don't realize it. More often than not, I actually know when I'm doing it. But, usually when I use it, it's a natural progression anyway. Other times, I use it as a tool, so as to break the tension of something else going on, not as in sexual tension between us. I don't WANT to break that, lol.

In general, no, it's not a good idea to use it a lot, like most people do. Such as at the beginning of every sentence or at the end of every sentence. I ESPECIALLY hate that one. Gets SOOOO annoying, lol. When I'm talking to someone that ends every damn sentence with "so", I find an excuse to leave real fast, if possible.

By seeing if she is playing or not meaning I need to be getting some IOI from her? Or is there another way to actually tell she wants to play? Thanks.

LA, eye contact question for you..

Ive been reading about it on this forum and the jist seems to be that you hold ec while speaking, and about 2/3 of the time when she is speaking if she is saying something worthwhile. (Correct?)

When in a 3 set recently, my wing said after "great eye contact, you looked from one to the other to the other" and I realised that in set I sometimes act like I am giving a presentation (ironic thing is that I am, but I dont want them to know it)

I generally use the MM so Im guessing I should leave out the target and break my conversation up a bit to encourage interaction???

Actually, what I meant was see if she's playing you or if she's seriously interested.

If she's playing you, she would still be showing you IOI's in order to get what she wants from you. You have to actually test her to see if she's serious. And, watch her body language closely when she's around you. That in itself will be a big indicator. Although girls do know about body language, normally their body language when in your presence is something they don't specifically think about, but just do it because their minds are telling you what they are really thinking, through their body language. So, IOI's in the form of her body language will tell you a great deal. However, if you're not getting that, I would back off and stear clear.

Basically, she could fake playing with her hair, very easily. She could even fake EC easily. But, things like does she turn her body into yours? Does she open her body up to warm up to you? Things like that normally aren't gonna be faked. Also, the pupils, whether they are dilated or not when she's looking at you and around you, that she can't fake. If they are dilated, that's a good sign. Look into her eyes. Is her EC steady and does it seem to be intense? Maybe because her pupils are dilated? That's a good sign. If she's just standing there, maybe arms crossed or legs crossed, and looking at you with eyes that say they could care less, that's not a good sign.

So, look for things like that to see if she's seriously interested or not. If you get the feeling she's playing you, push her away, fast.

And, if she IS seriously into you, she WILL want to "play". Bet on that. So, at that point, you just escalate kino, build attraction, comfort, etc.

Yeah, that's a rough guideline, but yes. I mean, you don't at any point want to just stare at her eyes. She will start thinking your creepy, or a perv, or something like that. But, good solid EC, yes. And, normally she will look away anyway, when you don't break the EC. That's when you give yourself a break too. Well, there's nothing wrong with looking from one girl to another at times. However, you do want to focus on the obstacles more than your target. Lock your target IN, but then focus on the obstacles more after that. And, it doesn't matter so much if you bounce some EC around to the others, because you're giving each of them attention. You need to do that in order to make them your friends. Leave the target out to an extent, yes. Don't completely ignore her though. Even throw an occasional neg her way. I do mean occasional, depending on the girl, which of course takes calibration. Encouraging interaction is fine, but don't just stand around and wait for them to throw their input in. If no one is willing to speak, keep going. You are responsible at first for about 90% of the convo. At some point, depending mostly on the people you are engaging, that will change and they will start participating more.

As far as breaking the convo up, that will be handled well enough with the simple practice of snipping threads and starting new ones. This will help to keep their interest, build their comfort with you, make them "feel" like they have known you for years, and build rapport. So, keep snipping threads and starting new ones, and come back to the thread later, when you're ready to. And at times, someone in the convo may even try to bring you back to a previous thread. That's fine too. That shows they are interested in you.

And, since you use MM, also remember, one interesting thing is just that, an interesting thing. 10 interesting things in a row makes YOU interesting. So, snip those threads and jump to a new interesting thing.