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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:44 am 
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A bit overly negative, but good post.


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Pure truth, like button :D No but really most of top global PUAs can be put into that categories. So in conclusion you can say.

Don't fix something that works already, be normal

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WOW! :shock:

This is the best article I've read in months. It's funny how I knew this, but I still fall into many of those categories.

I have saved it and promised myself to read it once a month at least.

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Great Article.... I feel sick and guilty to doing all listed above. Yakkk! My life in the past 3 years has narrowed to just PUA and come to think of it i have nothing to talk about to my friends than Self Improvement and hitting on girls(in theory that is)...

Gosh i have to get my life back... Aint that a bitch

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there were a lot of valid point in that post.

there were also a lot of sarcastic *almost playerhateristic* points that were simply amusing plays on words.

50/50

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A bit overly negative, but good post.
I'd agree with that, and the sentiments of a few others in the thread.

It's definitely worth reading for anyone starting out, because it can help cultivate a certain level of self-awareness; I'm sure it's useful for those who have gained a lot of experience too.

The key seems to be to incorporate PUA into your existing life, instead of allowing it to become your life; with a lot of new interests though, it is probably inevitable that people will get into it a lot in the beginning, because it's new, exciting and intersting. Some people will lose interest, while others will maitain a healthy balance, while still others will go overboard.


I think the degree to which PUA starts to dominate your life though, is probably an indicator of underlying psychological or spiritual issues; PUA won't address those issues, that has to come from working on yourself. It sounds like it can be an incredible journey though, when done right.


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Yeah I can see how you can get sucked into this I will say I want to be the best PUA I can be, I don't use many PUA terms and in not a Guru, a kid asked me that and I said no im not you can be as good as me or any PUA if you have the confidence, social skills and treat women with respect. What I basicallytook from PUA videos and strategy is going out of social norms to interact with women in a positive way. You dont have a social skills in high school that teaches you this stuff and alot of guys lack it. Most none PUA's won't approach wemon out in public expect at certain places bars/clubs which is the social norm. All PUA's do is take advantage of this by gaming places most none PUA's wouldn't and have better social skills at talking to women. It's about over coming fear of rejection and being put on the spot. Fuck the crazy terms and the weird shit it comes down to do you have the balls to love yourself and approach any girl you desire. Yes I created "Project Mayhem 210" to bring PUA's in San Antonio together to game and have fun and help those who want to learn are art. I use "Fight Club" and my favorite character "Tyler Durden" because he strikes a nerve with men that were the middle men of history, no great war to fight, no great depression, its a spiritual war. We're supposed to just sit back in take the scraps that society throws at us or go out there and get what we want out of life. I don't worship him but I relate so much to that movie and the message behind it. PUA groups is exactly that a "Fight Club" mentality but except instead of beating each other up we pick up girls and get laid. I don't want to be a cult leader "Project Mayhem 210" is just about PUA's getting together having fun and getting girls. Not an ego trip, going mad losing friends or a secret society. But I do support the creation of a PUA clubs that are positive and not destructive. If we were more organized with responsible individuals we could root out all the bad seeds giving us a bad name or taking this too far. I'll have to make sure I don't find myself making those mistakes and any advice or beliefs I have are mine only and I would never impose them on anybody. Thanks for the post it was very interesting and I think I may have caught myself making some of these mistakes. Its to late for me im good at this its my adrenaline rush my PS3 collects dust I enjoy striving to be a PUA but some are not cut out to get out in the field and do it even if I got 3 out of 10 success rate that's 3 beautiful girls that wouldn't be in my life.


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I have to agree that most of what is stated in this article is SPOT ON! It must serves us all as a reminder.

In the meantime I believe, at some degree, when you're starting in this whole PUA Community, at moment you will see yourself go trhough some of these stages outligned here. The thing is to learn from them and move on...Life is a collection of experiences...


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Great post! Although one-sided, I think this made some very good points, and esp. as a beginner I've found myself possibly getting too wrapped up in pua and the attitudes often taught by some sections. Important to remember to keep a level-head and not to get sucked in to everything you read.


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Ways the puahate community can make you a permanently weird retarded virgin loser.

1. PUAhaters feel depressed and insecured just for all sorts of reasons.

This number is self - explanatory, just watch the miserable suicidal incels in puahate.com

2.Asking advice from utterly helpless, clueless mentally retarded people in a incel forum.

The puahaters, gullibly swallow any kind of information on the internet without self - questioning, without self - doubt, without critical thinking. This is the extreme form of menatal retardation.


3.PUAhaters FAIL to get the main point or the main geist of certain ideas like for example

-- peacocking is design to be unique and/or to recreate an artificial sense of value. Another term for this is scarcity tactics.

But puahaters are mentally retarded, the misconstrue and end up misapplying advice.

Intellectually superior people will have it easy with any kind of method or idea.

If you can be unique without looking weird then you can succeed but puahaters are so

pitifully dumb and mentally retarded so they fail.

4. PUAhaters have A skewed perspective about women. (and maybe also towards men.)

waaahh!! waaahh, waahh women so evil. waaah, bitches, cunts cunts cunts cunts waaaah women

so evil they just reject losers. waaaah waaahhh women so evil. waahh. That is how most puahating retards are.

waahh, waaahh so sad so depressed little 'ole me becoz men are worthless trash. waahhh waahh. whiny crybabies, waahh waahah.

5. The puahaters idolize basement dwelling. The puahaters idolize being a shut-in introverted hermit. They patronize trolling the internet whole day and making one giant mental masturbation essay about how PU makes you weird. Blah blah.
Some pu might make you weird but it's better than being invisible to women and sexless.
It beats jacking off and crying over tranny porn all day and all night.

6. I agree with the extreme use of jargons though. Too much jargon is bad.

7. Not applicable - strawman, not all of pua', use flashy tactics or tricks. I don't like silly tricks either.

8. These statements do describe some women, or the way some women act in certain circumstances but there is no generalizations. All these behaviors - (i.e. shit test,
uhhmm, pussy to the highest bidder etc and so on) --- is based on the "TENDENCY" of women
to select the most superior/valuable man.

It is part of a woman's SHIT TEST, to figure out the most superior, most powerful, dominant
alpha aggressive genes. It is a woman's method to find out the best male candidate to
inseminate her. A test of QUALITY
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A system for identifying worthy genes.

An innate mechanism to filter out the winners from the loserz.

9. PUAhaters intrepret everything as a rejection or a negative feedback. They think every woman thinks that they are ugly or unworthy. They interpret every situation as a threat to
their ego or self esteem or whatever they like to call it. They treat every social interaction as if it was harmful.

10. PUAhaters buy too much into the paranoid belief that every person wants to hurt, wants to harm you and wants to make money out fo you. Well, surely some of it is true but they take it to extreme levels.

11. There's nothing secretive about PU men trying to figure out how to get inside a pussy.

LOL..@OP that has existed for ages.

12. The wannabe PUA's are weird and creepy, that is true but the legit ones, the real PU's
who have made it and are successful, happy and getting lots of sex, "AREN"T"
The wannabe PUA's are fake. They frauds so your attacks is another strawman.

13.The author of this post is a hypocrite, he preaches about not caring what other people thinks and about what other people do on the internet and yet compiles a long ass mental masturbation about how the community on the internet makes you weird. yeah, right! Oohh man, what dope ass sucker.

14. The cultlike SPAM is happening to the anti - pua groups as well. PUAhaters spread shitty inaccurate and often false information about life and women all the while remaining depressed virgins.

15. PUAhaters jump to a logical fallacy that reading books and watching movies = self - improvement.

This is a logical error. PUAahters are confusing epiphanies and reading books as self - improvement. This is not real self - improvement thus your attacks against PUA's are ungrounded and baseless and all depended on fallacies after fallacies.

You are relying on the gullibility of people to fall for your false and often deceptive portrayal of PUA's.


I don't like reading books. I prefer taking real action.

Reading books and watching movies is not going too far into self - improvement because it isn't self - improvement to begin with. Aaaoron sleazy is really one mentally retarded dope.


16. Nice guys aren't weird. They are just invisible like doormats to step on that nobody
sees. Again, the OP preaches about not caring what other people thinks and yet cares too
much about not being weird or being weird. Again, hypocrite scammers like these should be
called upon and exposed.


17. I support healthy balance and moderation.


18.Again another hypocritical statement, by posting this article about how community makes
you weird, aren't you yourself proselytizing people into HATINg the PU community. ooh mna, yoiur words are full fo utter bullshit. Instead of spreading love, you're spreading animosity.

19. You misconstrued the true definition of confidence. PUAhaters confuse superiority complexes with true confidence. PUAhaters confuse a hyper - inflated sense of ego with overconfidence. You constantly throw one logical fallacy. One after the other.
When will you ever stop scamming and spreading misinformation aaron sleaztard (The author of How community makes you weird)

19. I don't like formulas especially repititive formulas. This we can agree on.

20. PUAhaters based their entire identity as INCEL scums of society. They based their identity on being kissless, sexless and anti - social freaks.

21. Puahaters equate talking to women as anti - social. What is truly anti social is being a friendless wimp who is too sacred to do things.

For puahate -- Social = being alone and locked inside a room.
For puahate -- Social = being shut - in basement dwelling.

For the puahaters
The equate kissing = anti - social
sex = anti - social
interacting with women = anti - social
talking to women - anti - social.

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We, human beings a sociable creatures and is in our genetic programmed to interact with other human beings no matter how silly and ridiculous it seems.
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20. The naturally hierarchy to fulfill a higher need. Once sex is completely satiated then a lot of the people move on to having meaningful relationships. Congratulations, they've grown and up and mature and this would have never have happen if the remained as a kissless, sexless puahating virgin loser.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:25 am 
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It was indeed a long topic. However, thanks for the information. I will reread it from time to time just to see if I'm not doing these mistakes.


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1st off, this post was extremely detailed and well thought out and I have to respect the author of the post for putting himself out there.

2nd, I didn't agree with every point, but that doesn't mean that I couldn't learn from this. Personally, I think this is a must read for anyone in or wanting into this discipline.

3rd, Weird isn't always bad. Some things are delightfully weird. Every person I've dated has a something about them that makes them "weird." I'm a Pastafarian and proud of it. Ask most Evangelical Christians if they think I'm weird for being Pastafarian. I'd wager at LEAST 50% or more would say yes, if not 100%. By the way, this is just an example, and you don't have to follow my Noodley Master and his Marinara Covered Meatballs.

4th, While you shouldn't be "looking to drop your friends" to be part of a new lifestyle, simply be prepared for some people to not understand, or want to understand. This can be said about any change. Unfortunately, this may lead to friends not wanting to be friends with you anymore, but make sure that you're not simply trying to proselytize them into a new belief system and dumping/shunning them for not wanting to participate. That would make anyone doing that no better than religious people ostracizing friends for not converting into their religion. Joining this art form is a personal choice, just like religion, taking on swimming lessons, going to college, dating a specific girl, etc etc.


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