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What amazes me about Sasha and Yad is that even though both styles are completely different both seem to work. You hear PUAs all the time talking about how their way is the best. So is that all just bull shit? Some would say watching both Sasha's and Yad's videos side by side in comparison proves it.
Some would say that if that's true then the whole PUA industry is bull shit as well because at the end of the day the differences don't mater, and the competing styles are just perpetuating lies to sell boot camps, dvds, and e-books. I don't know. I don't care. I've never spent a dime on PUA anyway. There's so much free shit out there that you don't have to these days! I can say that I've encountered alot of bad advice among the good. I think it's the responsibility of future PUAs to defend the purity of the art against these scams. The question is still what is the pure art of PUA?
What we do is art not science. Sure science is a part of the artistic process but there are things that can't be measured or quantified. When it comes down to it, it seems that anything will work on somebody for somebody. But is that true? What if both are doing something very similar and just can't see it on the surface?
If you act AFC (or what's considered AFC at least) with a fat ugly girl, you've probably got a shot with her. Do that on a bikini model and you're fucked. At least that's the accepted traditional knowledge. If I didn't know better and was just watching these two videos with no knowledge of the fact that they are both highly respected PUAs, I'd say they were both totally AFC. At least you'd think that until you see them get the girl. Then there is this "WHAT THE FUUUUUUCK!?" moment where you sit back and realize your mind has just been blown and everything you ever knew has been shot to bits. I think in the community the term "alpha male" needs to be re-examined and redefined. Neither of these guys fit the traditional definition and they still get laid.
Now the real question is what is it that they are BOTH doing that's working? Take all the surface stuff and throw it in the trash. Why are both of these guys getting laid? Is it the fact that both methods work, or is it that under the surface they are doing things that are the same and work universally?
Anybody have any ideas? Personally I have no idea. I've got 9 years of head knowledge and a year of experience, so I honestly still suck at this shit, just gonna be honest
Right now I'm just doing anything and everything that looks like it might have a chance at working on a particular type of girl.
I've been throwing bits and pieces of stuff both of these guys do into my game, and there have been minor improvements. Particularly Sasha's humor and wit and Yad's calm, but positive energy. The down side is I feel like I'm running around like a guy with multiple personality disorder!
It's kinda weird for me and the girls.
I've been debating styles with my wing for the past week. Right now we are trying to answer this question: What is universal, and do you really have to change as much as we've been taught in the past to? What I mean is do we really have to change core parts of our personalities to get the women we desire, or is this counterproductive? I'm starting to think it is.
hey man, both these videos are pretty cool, but you seem to focus alot on the style of game and what is being said, these things all come together to form a strong outer game when the inside has it's shit together, confident/secure people, just naturally do confident/secure things, how ever your can ''fake it till you make it'' and learn how to trick/manipulate people into thinking you are more confident/secure then you actually are (routines/guidelines/putting on acts etc.)
the reason you are having trouble putting your finger on what this is that makes this possible is because it is not the style, it is not the words, it is the confidence behind the words, you get it from experience, the material doesn't get you laid, the confidence that you have in the material gets you laid, if you start off using lines, the lines suck, but once you get confident in them, you present yourself as a more confident person, even if the lines are cheesy and corny, it is fine, the girls just want a confident guy who actually is worth something, not some scrub who doesn't take care of himself or have any drive or ambition to make anything out of himself or his life (these guys naturally weed themselves out by never taking any action or risks, this lack of confidence echos through out their whole lives, it shows in the sort of job they work, the kind of clothes they wear, the friends they hang out with, the hobbies they participate in, the physical condition their bodies are in, the more confident and sure of yoruself you are, the more likely you take pride in yourself and actually take the initiative to do things you enjoy as well as improve your life)
for you sex is 10-30 minutes of fun, for the girl it is the possibility she has a mini you inside her, girls like guys just as bad if not more then guys like girls, the only thing is sex is more of a heavy descision for girls, so naturally they are more selective
if you enjoy pickup then just set some time aside (when you are single), to go out and meet people, just make a hobby out of it, a few hours a day
just be yourself, tell the truth and act through your own intentions, the more you can do this, the easier you will find directly communicating with people, the more you communicate with people the more you will pick up better on social cues and naturally just become more socially intelligent, the more you develop your confidence and social skills the easier you will find connecting with people as well as developing a natural nack for having people just randomly like you for no reason other then admiration for your social skills and emotional security, even if you are projecting a really high social status with super tight game, you will also notice that no matter how good you get you just can't win with certain girls depending on other external factors (looks, money, status, your voice, ethnicity, etc. etc.)
the whole point is you can improve your sex life greatly, but game is not everything and you should not only work on your social skills but on yourself as a person become more attractive overall as well as learning to connect and seduce, looks and confidence are to two main points a guy should focus on in my opinion, girls do care about how you look, but confidence, intelligence, and good social skills go a really long way when it comes to girls (especially in comparison to guys)
the more you practise and become more confident/socially intelligent the more you will realize you don't need anything to pickup girls besides some sexual intent, eye contact, a smile and the truth
but to get to that point, you have to develop good habits, you won't just wake up one day and shazam all of a sudden life has changed, it happens step by step over time with discipline and effort, make yourself as attractive as possible and maximize your potential by taking action to develope that deep level confidence where it gets to the point that you believe you can do anything you set your mind to and you know how you're going to do it
yad/sasha are no different then any other average guy with the exception of they like chatting up girls, and they are confident and motivated enough to actually go out over and over and do it, you can be guarenteed they get the same flakes/blowouts and funny stories as well as amazingly satisfying hookup stories as any other average guy who has this sort of confidence, it is the confidence that makes you like a boss, that ability to just believe in your own intentions to the point where you just go for what you want and know how to get it because you are absolutely certain of yourself
GOOD LUCK
Thanks, and I actually agree with everything you said. By the way, your advice has been a blessing. It's saved my ass more than once! I've been sending people asking me for advice your way, so much respect my friend! Any time you want to give me advice DO IT! lol!
I only focus on the styles to show that the styles don't matter, which is something I am slowly becoming more aware of the more I watch mPUAS in action. All the shit I learned from Ross Jeffries, David DeAngelo, and even Carlos Xuma, about changing your personality can be tossed in the trash. It's bull shit. They teach you how to attract women they are attracted to, not women you are attracted to. Though Carlos Xuma is the one who does it the least. I have mad respect for him. He's made great contributions to the PUA community, but the whole Alpha Male idea needs to be reexamined, if not in practice, then at least in the way it is taught and discussed.
I see two guys who in the past I would have considered AFC (Sasha and Yad) for completely different reasons and both getting hot women. It proves that it has nothing to do with personality and everything to do with skills, and the skills are the ones that bring out the best parts of your personality. Maybe the idea of changing yourself completely is too extreme! Being yourself but having skills seems more likely to attract the women you like.
I spent 9 years trying to fuck strippers and becoming the ass hole who could to impress other guys and frankly amuse myself, but ultimately it just worked to turn off the women I really like: the nice, sweet, innocent good girls who are submissive and kind. Not that strippers can't be that way, just alot of them aren't. The same applies to chicks in bars and clubs.
Now I want to know that shit so I can teach it to someone who wants to know, but my goal is to find my perfect woman and get married. My personality suits that lifestyle. I'm going back to being more of who I used to be minus the wuss.
Naturally I'm more like Yad or James Marshal (more the later) than Sasha. That's my vibe. I'm a fucking man, but I'm a nice man. I don't like uptight snotty women, and I'm not going to waste my time on them or put up with them.
Fuck being fake, faking it til you make it, and trying to become someone your not. Just add the skills that you need to be successful being yourself!
So being fake might get you the women you could never get before. Are they really the women you want? The divorce rate is 80% in America. That's pitiful. Rather than being scared of marriage (like I think alot of PUAs are) I'm going to focus on finding my one perfect girl (or at least an ideal girl) and trying to make it work! But I'm going to wait until I know for sure. I'm going to use this shit to attract her and KEEP her forever. Part of that will be never cheating, loving her with all I've got, always learning more about her, actually listening to her, and leading her, being a REAL MAN who is HIMSELF, but FULLY HIMSELF! Not some watered down fake sexuality version of himself.
To me, if the end result is not a LTR or marriage in your game, you're wasting your life on this PUA game. That's for chumps. Sure it gets you lots of sex, but what's sex without love? It's pointless to me. You might as well be indulging yourself in mutual masturbation. And then that leads down the path to sex addiction. It's pointless, meaningless bull shit.
Sorry I got off topic a bit and had to rant. That shit's been in my head for a few weeks and I haven't been posting because I've been spending all my time looking for a job, so it's all been building up in my head. Well, anyway, I just got one, and it kicks ass, so I'm fucking back. I'm moving to the big city and sarging quality big city women now!
And the job is a PUA's dream come true! I might as well be doing PUA for money!
Anyway, that's my post. Sorry it was so long and random. Did I mention I have ADD?
Much love and respect to my fellow PUAs. I'm logging out!
CHAT
