I beg to differ. She is his girlfriend and he screwed up. this is well beyond picking up a girl whom he just met at a bar..
he should prove his love and that he is sorry and truly will never do whatever he did ever again. how to do that? it depends. I would push the right emotional buttons by creating connections to some special moments in the relationship (a perfect date for instance), something along the lines of "remember that day when we X? it could still be like this. it will still be like this. let us get the past beyond us. I know I screwed up. I feel terrible about it. but I can't lose you for it. I still want us to be doing X.. and Y.. I still want to hold your hand and make you feel safe in my embrace"..

yes, she will be in a position of higher value and power for a while. he can work on switching power and value roles later on. now, his aim is to get the girl back, not to DHV.

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I agree and disagree. It depends on the level that he is now. They haven't broke up, yet.

Furiox has a point, don't just hand over control to her. you have to known what you are doing when you apologize. you are NOT begging to have her back. Think the opposite, think, you are the best men in the world for her and she's lucky to have you. you are human and made a mistake and you are sorry.
if you are just begging you already lost it. if you apologize and have a great date and such then you have her back. you don't even need to ignore her for a few days because she's already yours.

I assume you known some basic rules... after the date you can't contact her. Expect her to get to you. make her want again. don't ignore but just don't get back on her too fast. you have to create interest again.

Either way you have to make a move. doing nothing now it will not going to help.
The key is what you are going to do now. Better start thinking on something great.

One more thing guys, I texted her yesterday asking her what's new, she told me she just got her braces off 3 days ago and got a new job starting tomorrow. (I knew the braces thing cause she posted on facebook saying it, but I ignored that) and then she sent me a pic of herself smiling with no braces, at that time I know she was teasing me, showing me how prettier she is now.


unknownpoet
I actually have thought about that, but we live so far and it's pretty AFC thing.
but I agree with you, she still likes me and waiting for me to make a move, I just don't know what exactly should I do.



Furiox
I know she still likes me and I can tell that, she was saying that just to try to make me feel bad and terrible about myself, but that really hurts my pride.

But the thing is I already apologize to her and acted needy, and now freeze her out?

And what if she doesn't text me back in 3 days, and if I do the "3 days ask her out" thing, don't I fall into the friendzone immediately?

No, guys we already broke up, she changed her relationship status to single last week.

And seagull_sfmv
I like that, I know I need to do something, otherwise I will lose her for sure, but if she doesn't want to go out with me, I don't know how can I create connections to some special moments. Will it work through text or messages?

you have made many mistakes. some of which were the opposite of what you told you to do.
Probably to catch your attention. That's why you needed to act. But not in a desperate and needy way.

Learn from your mistakes.
Realise it's hard to analyse just by your posts and without knowing you both.

Now you are in a very tricky position. We don't known if you are already out of her equation or if she really loves you. Either positions have their own different answers.

If you act now like I told you and she really doesn't want you anymore then you'll loser her. If she's waiting for you to apologize then you'll have her back.

If she doesn't want you anymore you can try to do what Furiox said.

Dude im pretty sure you know what "take a break" means, dont waste your time bro.

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by the sounds of your posts she has you wrapped around her finger, your only chance is to work on your inner game and work at it hard, even if she did get back with you now she'd only dump you again because she has all the power now

So here is my thought, I tried and it doesn't work if I just apologize through messages. I screwed up and I have to man up and do that in person.

I'm gonna try what seagull_sfmv said.
Try to push the right emotional buttons by creating connections to some special moments in the relationship, seems like it's only work if I do that in person.

What I'm gonna do is go all the way to her town, and show up at her work and talk to her (That will surprise her, don't worry I'm not gonna talk to her while she is working, maybe I'll show up when she's almost done). I don't know if that's a good idea or not, please let me know guys. Thanks

terrible idea which i pretty much gaurantee will not work, man up for christ sake!!!!

Thats too bad,just give her some time,she will come to her senses.

After the messaging, forget it. you did the opposite that we all told you. you are being an afc. you have lost your window now. you had a chance and screwed everything. you can go and try it but imo it's worthless and you are just wasting your time.
basically you did everything wrong. imo she doesn't like you anymore after all that shit.
forget it. move to the next one.

I'm so confused, most of you said I screwed up and I need to man up and apologize to her, which I did.

manning up means you only apoligize if you are out of order yourself and only do it once maybe twice then dont bring it up again, by the sounds of it you are saying sorry to her all the time which is lowering your value.

I hope i'm wrong but i've think you've blown it with this chick for being too beta, if i was you i'd read every article on pick-up you can find over the next few days or weeks and learn everything that you can

My main point here is you're so young you should just chill out.

You talk about her past and your past. But dude, you're kids:) She's not even 21, she lives with her parents, they're cool enough to let her go far away regularly -- and you're probably just a few years older. You don't have "pasts" yet. Neither of you has issues. No need to analyze. No need to freak out and create fake profiles and spy. All the stuff you're going through is normal. There are kids out there with junkie parents and one committed suicide and they were raped by their uncle when they were 8. They have pasts and issues. And I know it may seem like a big deal now, but look back on it in a few years -- or what's more, ten years. You'll laugh at how silly you were.

I'm 30. I had tons of "girlfriends" in high school and college, and with each I thought it was the most important thing ever. Looking back, only one was important. And since leaving college, only one other has been important. The things worth freaking out about -- if there are things worth freaking out about -- are rare.

So chill out is point #1. Point #2 is let nature take over.

Most guys, when they like a chick, want to put artificial labels on her and walls around her (by making her a "girlfriend") way too quick. You'll probably make this mistake a bunch of times in the years to come (if you don't listen:). I sure did. The better way to go, when you like a girl, is to just enjoy her. No pressure to be a "girlfriend".

A year ago I pressured the third girl I ever loved to be my girlfriend. I lost her. She moved to another country and stopped talking to me 100% and I didn't know if I'd ever see here again. I told myself, if I'm ever in that situation again, I'd just enjoy it. Let nature take its course. Because losing love is the worst thing.

I got lucky. She came back three months later. She called. So not only was I in the situation again, but I was in it /with her/. And I did things the right way.

She's /not/ my girlfriend. What she /is/ is the hottest chick I've ever seen, the best sex I've ever had, and 100% committed to me. Sounds like a girlfriend right? Well she is -- in nature. Fuck the labels and artificial constraints. Ducks mate for life. They never talk about being a couple.