I had a great k-close/fingering a chick (9) last night that would have been an f-close if the logistics were there. She wasn't feeling doing it in a dark room with no door and I couldn't drive. Anyway, I got her number, so that should work out.

This girl was reluctant to give me her number, kept saying "I'm never going to see you again." Eventually gave me her number. Clearly she just wanted to get down and dirty and call it a night, which I appreciate. However, right before I left, we were kissing and she said "I like kissing you." I've heard this from 3 of the past 4 girls I've hooked up with and didn't f-close. 2 of them were very clear about how much they liked me before they said that. I haven't even thought about it until now, but does anyone have any insight into this? Like, what does it really mean when a girl says that? Is she just saying I'm a good kisser, or is she saying she likes me, or what?

Also, how long before I text her? Got her number Friday.

1 thing i definately know is

that when she says "i like kissing you"

it means she feels comfortable around you and thats a big positive

Also to add she is attracted to you and you've built some good rapport

Theres no negative side to it

Soncheese x

You probably didn't build good rapport. That's why she's reluctant to see you gain. If you have a great connection/rapport + attraction, there's no way a girl that you already kissed will be hesitant to give you her number. You'll probably lose her, in my opinion. Doing arousal in a club without ending it that night and without a good connection will make her have buyers remorse. When you'll text/call...she's going to think: "This guy...I don't even know him that well....he almost fingered me in the club...why does he call me?? Oh for sex...no I'm not a slut" She can even arrange a date and she'll flake at the last minute. I had this several times, I learned from mistakes. Although there are exceptions...if you haven't built a REALLY GOOD connection...so that she has a reason to take your number (not just because you wanted to have sex with her). There's a high chance that this girl will flake..
Not necessarily. She just thought you were some random guy who was attractive, but didn't give a damn about her...because you didn't built a good connection. That's why she wasn't sure to give you her number...because yeah you're attractive, but why would she give it to you?? There's not enough rapport in your set

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Well, when I first read that, I thought you were just being a jerk, but now that I've read it, I see where you're coming from. I just assumed that if things are progressing in the club, I must be doing everything right. Perhaps not. I'll update how texting/calling/day 2 go.

Anyone have anything to say about how long to wait to start texting?

You wait depending on how much of a good connection you have. If you have a reallly strong connection..you can even wait 3 days, she'll still remember you. The more you wait, the more she forgets the strong emotions she had associated with you when you first met. I always text the next day. At around 4 PM...just don't ask her out in your first text

And no I'm not a jerk. Everything I say is based on experience in field, that's it

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Thanks for the text advice. Sound advice. I worked out the day 2 and we met up. She had to be somewhere in a couple hours, so we didn't have a lot of time. It was a little awkward at first, then we went to change venues. When I got in the car with her, I said "one thing before we go" and kissed her. That kind of settled the awkwardness. From there, we went to the beach and ended up getting pretty kissy/grabby. She decided to blow off her next appointments. We changed venues again, got some food, went to the park, more kissing/grabbing. I suggested we go to her place. She was a bit hesitant, then like "ok." Then f-close for like 2 1/2 hours. So, I must have done something right.

To your credit, Flair, I had missed a call from her the day before we met up and she didn't pick up when I called back. I asked her about it when we were hanging out and she said the reason she called was actually to cancel, but because I missed the call, she changed her mind.

This is my first f-close since my last relationship, which ended a few months ago. I'm feeling very good about things. I maintained a feeling/vibe of being totally in control the whole time, as in, not feeling awkward, treating the situation like there was nothing unusual about it.

just because you f-closed it doesn't mean you made it right. like people said you made some big mistakes. you just got very lucky.

You're right. I fucked this girl, so clearly I made some very big mistakes. You are the definition of a debby downer, friend.