Say there are problems in the relationship, and say it even breaks down or she walks away. As much as we say girls are looking for long term, ideal partner bullshit, I still think a girl that walks away and misses that dick will probably be double-minded about whether she really wants to stay away or come back no?

My experience is the girls who had the orgasms and enjoyed the sex put up with a lot more stuff than they would normally. I'm not talking cheating but i'm talking normal shit that they claimed they wouldn't. And they would walk away and then come right back into it.

Pose this same question on a forum with women, they'll say no way. But am sure guys who have experienced this might be able to tell me if i'm right or wrong here.

And I'm not talking the skanks either. I'm talking even the nice normal girls looking for long term boyfriends.

it's not all about the dick.. it's how much you get them involved and attached.. my last GF would scream and cry for even the most minor thing I did, but in the end would always come back home and beg me not to leave her.. in spite of me not putting up with her demands, not even pretending to put up with her demands..
and since there were long periods of distance, it's certainly not only about how much good dick she got from me!

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How did you get her attached and involved then? I can't figure out why my last two exes kept putting up with my indifference and if the current one who just told me to take a walk will do so or not

generally i would say that while they do put some emphasis on good sex, in the end it will not be a dealbreaker.

they place much more value on confidence, status, how you handle yourself, how you treat them, etc etc.

a girl who will put up with alot of shit will do so because of the emotional attachment, which is born from the above mentioned factors, not how good you fuck her. however a dude who does all the right things, will also generally know how to get his girl off properly.

that being said, some women WILL make it a deal breaker, and say 'hmmm, he's this this that that and everything else that i want, but the sex sux' and she'll walk.

but for that to happen the sex has to really, really, REALLY suck i think. and if a girl would walk just because of that i woudlnt want her anyways

JuanAntonioB said it all.
it's not linear.
certainly not a deal breaker for SOME but for others sure it is.
it depends on the girl. for girls that a looking for a long therm relationship instead of a random bf or something, it doesn't matter so much.


you need to hear woman talk about sex among themselves to learn more about it. It would give you a great insight. I think it's a completely new world to you op. it's the next level for you, good luck.

Hard to exactly say.
I cared, but never completely. I gave but with some restraint. I provided enough drama and tension to keep her from looking for it some other place. Made sure she knew I could have other options but was willingly not pursuing them (but she better be good or I might...). I have also provided her with lots of advice and slowly got myself into the "smart dude who knows it all and is gonna run your life" role.
I would summarize my recipe in this last relationship with "love her but not too much, become a survival requirement for her"
In my penultimate relationship I had been a total AFC, a hopeless doormat. I am even surprised she slept with me for 3 months when I think about it in retrospect! Maybe that helped.

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"It's disrespectful not to bang them when they sleepover." (Hellhound)

Well I agree with all that was said. I think with the previous two I didn't care and they knew I could have others so they were clinging to me. With this last one I became an AFC, and even though I fucked her good and gave her orgasms, I don't think the fucking alone would keep her around and it certainly didn't. We fucked like mad this past weekend. She could hardly get out of bed all day saturday because she was so tired from the fucking. She would get a thrill out of asking me why am I so horny all the time and meantime she wanted it all day and all night whenever I was ready to give it to her. But outside of that I didn't show dominance.

Some of the posters answered my question in reverse ie if everything else is good will she stick around if the sex is not, but what i am really asking if the sex is good and the rest is not will she stick around or come back and the answer is most likely not. Gotta let that one go and now focus on making sure I get the other stuff right.

Do you guys think AFC behavior can be seen in a different light if enough time passes especially if she remembers how good it was to have sex with the guy?. I did that with one girl recently. Became the pushover, knew it, and so my only option was to dump her, and after two weeks she started calling and chasing me. With this current one she dumped me and her last memory of me is full of AFC mistakes but good sex. Don't think there is a recovery from that, but if there is and guys have done it, let me know.

unfortunately that doesn't work. only works with men. if a girl is great at sex but she's not in other things a men will keep her for sure. the opposite doesn't happen.

a long long time ago one of my first girlfriends told me something I never forgot. She basically broke up with me but said she was very sorry to do it because sex was so great. and she did told this to some of her friends too.

so in the end, it might prolong the ending, but it is for sure that she will end the relationship.

Well i had one yoga chick who told me we're not right for eachother and she doesn't see a future but somehow i was able to flip that script around and we became fuck buddies. We both knew we were not right for eachother but also figured might as well keep fucking until either of us find that right person

Occasionally,Love and Relationship will be comes in our life.If you try to keep besides of you,you cant able to grow up