ok so I think I am just pretty much forget everything else and just stick with the c&f game... but I need some suggestions from you guys while I work on my game...I don't know what comes next after I open a girl start a conversation and be a little cocky and funny and flirt y at the same time but after this how do i get a little closer to the girl and then finally go in for the kiss?

i know you always have to remember to touch the vagina as you talk to her.

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i know exactly what to do ... you go to the bathroom, roll up a fat a** blunt and smoke it. because it puts that "f*ck it" in your system. then just walk up to her and kiss da b*tch. (kiss close everytime)

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kvee, have you read Then Venusian Arts Handbook?

Make sure you have gotten a couple of IOIs then you can use the triangle look (look into her left eye, then right eye then her lips) I normally pause on her lips a little longer and when I look back into her eyes if she is looking at my lips I'm golden. then from that point stick the 3 second rule. go If you fuck it up at this point you have wasted a lot of time. This method requires the least risk on your part. If you are not getting her to look back at you the same way you need to more c/f or use cube routine, that one works for me.

If you have gotten a few IOI's then my favorite, is one I got from the Game. just stop talking as if you you just realized something. and accuse her of wanting to kiss you. again I glance at her lips while I'm doing this. Unless you get a hard NO you are on the right track. if you get a Yes, 3 second rule, Go! if she says, anything form yes to maybe or playful no answer with any IOI , you say Let's find out , or if you got a playful no then say I don't believe you. go in. otherwise more c/f, etc.

These have worked in many situations for me. from being alone at my place to being on a dance floor at a club. (at the club I have done this with basically nothing done before this except dancing with her, I didn't even know their names, and probably didn't say ten words to them.)

when you do kiss her stop short and tell thats all she gets for now. implying that she will get more later. this a good time to switch venues or at least move to a more secluded area if in a club.(mini dates) If you at your place then maybe its time to watch a movie in the bed room, etc she will know whats up and its time to start closing. Hopefully this helps a bit.

LOL!

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no i havent read the venusian arts hand book.. i guess ill try the triangle method.. that seems easy but thanks guys

kvee, you NEED to read The Venusian Arts Handbook. Yes, the triangle method is easy, but the Handbook will LITERALLY open your eyes up to SO much that's going on that you DON'T EVEN KNOW is there. You'll do yourself a DISSERVICE if you don't read the Handbook. Trust me.

honestly I would go straight to the source. DD's Double your Dating. If cocky-funny is what your gunna run, get it from the guy that has it down to a science.

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i actually have all his e books and read and go back to them every now and them... i have his cocky and funny program.. approaching woman program.. and sexual communication program its just to long to watch! plus he is all over the place its not like broken down in steps like mystery method so i guess its more figuring it out on your own type of thing i guess.. what do you guys say?

You are right, he does wander. But, you do need to wade through it all. Fast forward through parts of it too. Stop every few minutes and listen to where he's at. That's still the best way to get the stuff.

It's finding the right mixture of cocky and funny.

HAHAHAHA! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??!! YOU DONT DO THAT!!

hey l.a tripp.. so you suggest reading the Venusian arts handbook? I have the magic bullets book and read the some of the mystery method and of course all the David d e books..which taught me alot about female psychology and why girls do certain things etc.. but I guess i will go ahead and get the Venusian arts hand book and read up and more David d.... thanks

Yes, kvee, all of what you are reading is excellent, but trust me on the Handbook. Don't get rid of everything else though, either.