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That's really random. Try transitioning to something a little less arbitrary. Something situational, related to her. How she looks, what she's doing, etc.

Yea, thats what I do but I got lazy and put etc. etc. to skip convo lol

this is the daytime man, these girls are shopping and have something they have to do,

1) tell them why you are talking to them so it is not just some random conversation out of no where

2)place a frame over the interaction or give a time constraint (you will want to do this at some point before close)

3)set out a request for compliance


''hey I know this is sort of crazy (set frame) but, you're really hot (why you are talking to her) I had to come talk to you (compliance you expect), start talking past this point

she either complies or does not comply, if you are getting no compliance from almost every set, then chances are you are either not projecting enough value, or you have to adjust your approach to be stronger (better eye contact, better posture, more relaxed confident body language, more clear and pronounced confident verbal tonality)

also it is very important to make good eye contact and stop the girl before you start talking, make sure she understands your intentions and that your intentions seem genuine, you weren't put up to this by your friends, and you are not drunk or playing a joke or are just going from girl to girl asking anyone, to this girl what you want to project is you are just a confident guy genuinely interested in her and you are doing nothing more then being honest and meeting her because that's what you want and you have the confidence to make that happen

hold that frame and you will start to see some nice things happen, just genuinely approach because you have the intentions of meeting her, getting to know her, and laying the pipe down because she interests you, don't hide it, don't be ashamed of it, don't warp it, it is what it is, just let it be clear, she is either interested or not interested, screen quickly for compliance so you can descide if you are going to start spending time working for something or drop it and move onto something else

I think you're interviewing her too much early on the interaction she gets bored? use false time constraints when opening.

Make yourself interesting and she will be interested. Focus building on attraction first.

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This. Right off the bat it comes off like an interrogation.

omg, u are showing afc styles appaoch, u need to stop that, because she cant stop by to everyguys and spend time with him to see if he worth it. so be like

a) opner, something fun, opinion, (relationship) i find this very good.
b)time constraint, ok i only can stay here for a min, ( with body language that you look around.
c) ESP routines, you knwo what is esp, they them to give their hand to you. etyc
d) if they ask for more,/ hook them, i have this magic show, that ill be doing on a waterhouse, this is really cool u gonna see it. but i cant do it here, let go to a table. ( tell them hold on i need text my friend,) then bounce them, with a rail, mystery's rail both girl on ur arms, if possible.

and other dhv, pre selcetion, lead of men, u need these things

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God helps those who help themselves.

I read this post a few days ago. And now i see you want this thread deleted. What is it man? Are you self conscious? Are you at the point where you feel SO rejected that even on the forum where rejection is ironically what we all have in common that you suddenly get insecure in HERE, of all places!?

Shame on you.. bad.. bad man! Very bad man. I demand you edit your post again and include all the other nonsensical crap you spewed the first time so that we may critique at our discretion.

Why? Because this is YOUR first step, that's why...

Don't be afraid of sounding stupid, the only person you shoulder consider first above all else, even Jesus, is yourself. If you can humor yourself, why care what anyone else thinks?