Is it worth joining?
I like all this stuff and wouldnt mind taking it to the next level.
Thought on the VIP zone.

Ice-Cold I for one like the PMZ. There are a lot of good openers, and extras like how to pick up hired guns and stuff that you can't find as easily on the main forum. In addition, there are other things going on in the PMZ that don't happen on the general forum. In addition to all that there are the member journals that you can read from myself, and other moderators and active people on the forum. It's really active, with a lot of things going on that will help new members and experienced members alike!

I say it's worth it. You want to take your game to another level, I would definately get involved.

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There needs to be a some sort of free trial basis if they want more people to join. I don't know if its really worth the cost Cuz if its just people telling more stories about their pick-ups I'm not really interested. Personally I rather live my own adventures

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One big point about the PMZ, ASIDE from those great things jsmooth mentioned, is the PUA chat. Normally, that's only open to PMZ members. Plus, we do have some workshops that are open to the general members, in fact three more, but once those are done, the remaining workshops will be available only to PMZ members. So, yes, there is in effect a trial period for that.

Your options are either paying to get in immediately, or proving through your posts that you are already exceptional at this art. That you KNOW what you're talking about. After a period of time, where that can be seen, you may gain entrance, if there is a concensus among the mods.

This is a dangerous question to ask. But I'm hoping it's been debated enough that we won't have another monumental struggle.

From the perspective of a PMZ member who's been in it from the start, it's really grown and evolved in just a few short weeks. Worth it at this very moment? No. That's just my opinion, take it or leave it. But do not question it, you will not change my mind. That said, I enjoy being a PMZ member very much. The private journal is a great tool for my own reflection and a great way to keep things archived for myself.

Worth it with all the plans the moderators and Brad have for it in the not-too-distant future? Yes, probably. They do have some good plans, some of which are already being implemented.

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Well Tripp I dont have anything to prove I know i my abilities and if I got to write 500 Good post to get in I'll pass for the time being

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Pro's about PMZ

-Less clutter
-More quality
-Better personal relationships between members
-Special events
-Different, exclusive content
-Videos, podcasts, downloads, etc

Cons
-Have to pay unless invited
-Will help your game....

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"Be the same, only better."

U know i might help if you make the PMZ open for a 24hour period

No one buys a car without test driving it first or without looking up information on the car

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See that would ruin a major part of what makes the PMZ good.

Annonimity... Several senior members including myself post in much more depth in the PMZ and give actual verbatim examples... I'd never do that in a forum that was open to the public.

Also there is video footage... I believe some others are working on getting some as well, but I should have some of my in-field footage up shortly (once I can get the video to brighten up right, lol)

Forget I asked you guys don't believe in good advertising
If see some pics of you guys with women it'll look more promising
till then I don't buy it

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I am someone who really believed that the PMZ should be something that you had to work for to get in - rather than just pay for it....I figured it would just turn into the main forum and be a bunch of garble.

However, the admins keep is really clean (well presented), and informational.
I have not been able to even make a dent in all the wonderful stuff they have.

It is a place where you get legit, useful information; it is a place to advance your game. If you are looking to take it to the next level rather than just get personalized tips and interactions....it is worth it.

It isnt a place (or so I have come to think) that you go to whine and/or get tips about personalized scenarios. It is more like a book published by PUA's....except instead of being a book, it's an online database with Chat.

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Honestly id prefer it were invite only.

However, it isnt..people have the option of paying to goto PMZ, imo its worth it.

It has nothing to do with marketing, economics, or buisness...it is information not a tangible object. What you could get for free there in 24 hours they cannot take back.

Have you ever bought a book, cd, video game, computer program? Typically you dont get to "test drive" them before you use them. Sure there are illegal ways to 'test drive' these, but typically you dont end up buying it if you do this.

No one gives information away for free temporarily because thay cant get it back. That makes no sense.

You can either not goto PMZ, pay to get in, or step up the quality (not quantity) of your posts and get invited.

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if anything....you should see that Ka is part of it. And Ka's a P.I.M.P.

Duh.

Don't you want to be a pimp too?

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Im not a unique or beautiful snowflake, im the same decaying organic matter as everyone else...except im working on changing that

Thanks Locke, but save the praise for when you get to watch me freeze first hand (or hopefully by then im tearing it up).

Later guys.

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So do we have anyone who actually paid for this and is content with their investment?
Because the fee is not my main concern, the price is reasonable. I dont need a test drive but I would like to know what im getting into?
Can someone PM with some in depth details would appreciate it.