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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:19 am 
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Ok, that last question is VERY needy. And that's why she hasn't responded. Your next move is to tell her there's a party and TELL her to come along. If she mentions her friend, TELL her to bring her. If she flakes or says no, or ANYTHING that doesn't result in her coming, you FREEZE HER OUT.

And, actually, that move is only if you HAVE to contact her to set your mind at ease. If you have the willpower not to contact her, then your next move is to freeze her out IMMEDIATELY, AND find some other girls and don't keep her from knowing. I mean, DON'T go brag to her that you have other girls, but don't try to hide them from her either.
ok so I fucked up and now I'm nervous about how to recover

I guess my problem is I'm being pessimistic and I'm really busy with exams and work and I won't be available much (bachelor party weekend out of time and a wedding the next) plus it is x-mas break and I don't know where she will be during that (we go to the same college). I don't really know when to squeeze her into my schedule but I do really like this girl. What exactly should I say or do to keep her around on my limited schedule. i might ask her to help me pick an outfit for the rehearsal dinner and maybe that will also DHV.

I guess I've always been the friend first and then gotten women to like me and I've never thought that maybe in fact random women are attracted to me so I always feel odd gaming random women bcuz I don't want to be a friend, I want more then that
but does she?
I have issues with being forward
I never know how sincere to be or vocal
all my exes tell me I need to put myself ot there more


so what do i do to recover from my lame move if my schedule might not actually have any parties in the future besides my friends wedding reception ? plus I'll be out of town this coming weekend


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:14 am 
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i might ask her to help me pick an outfit for the rehearsal dinner and maybe that will also DHV.
Yes, actually, IF she agrees to "help" you with that, it would work. That would be a good move.
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I have issues with being forward
I never know how sincere to be or vocal
all my exes tell me I need to put myself ot there more
Well, there you go. Your ex's are telling you the answer your seeking. That's what women want and NEED from a man. The man HAS to be forward for any kind of lasting attraction. How sincere to be? There's a time to joke, and a time to be serious. That's just social skill.
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so what do i do to recover from my lame move if my schedule might not actually have any parties in the future besides my friends wedding reception ? plus I'll be out of town this coming weekend
Actually, it's BETTER that you're that busy. THAT is a DHV. It doesn't have to be a party that you invite her to. It can be anything where she will HAVE FUN. That's the important factor. She JUST has to ENJOY HER TIME WITH YOU. That's what matters, because that's what she will think about. While she enjoys her time with you, you should also be building attraction. One thing leads to another . . . you get the picture.


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Hey Tripp,

I have another girl that I am interested in sharing sexual experiences with, since she is a lesbian (a dominate one that is) who is always horny that needs satisfaction. She says she does not sleep with anyone else but the one she is in relationship, yet we still talk, and I often mention to join in on the action with her girl, or alone. I've also gave clue that I am also wild in bed, and can satisfy a women's need. But how can I get her to try me out?

Also, there is another girl that I want to call but she does not call back too often. She is extremely busy school and work, and attending to her large amount of needy friends. I do not want to be in placed as one of her needy friend so I don't call her too often. Maybe once a week. Yet, when she say she will call me on so and so day, she never does. Then when I call her she said she was going to but something came up. When we talk it range from 20 mins to hours. I love it. How can I get her to call me instead of me calling? She love to text also, but I hate it due to the fact that it can accumulate into a high expense.

Looking forward to your advice.


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Actually, it's BETTER that you're that busy. THAT is a DHV. It doesn't have to be a party that you invite her to. It can be anything where she will HAVE FUN. That's the important factor. She JUST has to ENJOY HER TIME WITH YOU. That's what matters, because that's what she will think about. While she enjoys her time with you, you should also be building attraction. One thing leads to another . . . you get the picture.
that's the problem, we've never hung out and when we meet is was short horrible small talk
I'd be comfortable doing a party but to just hangout I feel pressure
I really don't have much time in my near future but I really want to recover from my lame move
should I just reinstate the facebook smalltalk "hey how are exams goin?"
etc...
this week is exam week then its winterbreak but I don't want to lose this one...I'm really into her
my coworker said I should ask her to that wedding reception
is that really cool or too much?
I could play it off like" hey lots of ppl are crash'n, you should tag along"
damn I feel so lame sometimes


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Last night I went the local Elks Club because they have Salsa dancing on weekends. Anyway Salsa is tonight, but I stay, have a As I am walking out the door her gay friend made some comment about me never coming back. I was trying to be half-joking, half-flirting. I am going back to apologize because I feel I may have come off as insulting. If not for Salsa I would not care, but, I since I am going back there I am going to be a man a about it and, depending on how she acts, I will apologize because I don't want women to see me as a dick. I guess I don't know how far to go before a girl sees you as annoying, piggish or both. I would like some feedback. Also, Is apologizing the right thing to do?
A HB's Gay friends can be a real cock bloc. I have known that realm all to well. If PUA have a name for that and a play, point me to the right place please.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:01 am 
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Hey Tripp,

I have another girl that I am interested in sharing sexual experiences with, since she is a lesbian (a dominate one that is) who is always horny that needs satisfaction. She says she does not sleep with anyone else but the one she is in relationship, yet we still talk, and I often mention to join in on the action with her girl, or alone. I've also gave clue that I am also wild in bed, and can satisfy a women's need. But how can I get her to try me out?
Ok, first of all, is she's straight les, and not bi, there's ALMOST no chance you're gonna get anywhere. Also, from what you're saying, you're telling her that you are VERY, VERY needy. Sorry man, but that's how she's got to be taking it, which is a definite turn OFF.

The only chance you even have, if there is one, is to flip the attraction switches that every female has hardwired.
1. Preselected by women.
2. Leader of men.
3. Willing to emote.
4. Protector of loved ones.

In short, you do NOTTTTTT show her or tell her that you want her. In fact, do just the opposite. Put yourself in her friends zone purposely. While you're at it, work on your inner game and start showing more alpha traits. Do the things that amp up a girl's attraction to you naturally. You know, push/pull, neg, some kino. But, friendly on the kino. Start giving her mixed signals like that.
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Also, there is another girl that I want to call but she does not call back too often. She is extremely busy school and work, and attending to her large amount of needy friends. I do not want to be in placed as one of her needy friend so I don't call her too often. Maybe once a week. Yet, when she say she will call me on so and so day, she never does. Then when I call her she said she was going to but something came up. When we talk it range from 20 mins to hours. I love it. How can I get her to call me instead of me calling? She love to text also, but I hate it due to the fact that it can accumulate into a high expense.

Looking forward to your advice.
Ok, on the texting, your cell company SHOULD have a part of the plan that gives you unlimited texting. Trust me, I've been there and done that with the high text bills myself, until I started "racking up" girls that I was texting with. I QUICKLY found out that those unlimited plans are worth it. Texting is GOOD. As far as getting her to call you. Well, if she stays on the phone with you like that, along with the other stuff you said, flaking and all, you most likely are in a type of LJBF zone of hers. The only real way to change that is to again, flip the attraction switches mentioned above. Also, don't contact her. Step back. Leave her alone for a while. When she finally does contact you, have something extremely interesting going on in your life. Better than usual. Be busy with it. Let her know you're busy, and let her know that there's something interesting you'd like to share with her soon. But, tell her that she has to meet with you for that.

Let me know how both girls progress.

Oh, also, game other girls while in this process. As MANY as you can.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:07 am 
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Actually, it's BETTER that you're that busy. THAT is a DHV. It doesn't have to be a party that you invite her to. It can be anything where she will HAVE FUN. That's the important factor. She JUST has to ENJOY HER TIME WITH YOU. That's what matters, because that's what she will think about. While she enjoys her time with you, you should also be building attraction. One thing leads to another . . . you get the picture.
that's the problem, we've never hung out and when we meet is was short horrible small talk
I'd be comfortable doing a party but to just hangout I feel pressure
I really don't have much time in my near future but I really want to recover from my lame move
should I just reinstate the facebook smalltalk "hey how are exams goin?"
etc...
this week is exam week then its winterbreak but I don't want to lose this one...I'm really into her
my coworker said I should ask her to that wedding reception
is that really cool or too much?
I could play it off like" hey lots of ppl are crash'n, you should tag along"
damn I feel so lame sometimes
First of all, fine. TELL her to tag alone to the reception with you. DO NOT ask her. You HAVE to get comfortable with small talk, talking to a girl. THAT is completely an inner game issue. You HAVE to be comfortable with yourself. The fact that you're so into her and don't want to lose her will actually push her away.

The whole facebook thing I wouldn't even worry about at this point. Just tell her to tag along with you to the reception, and GET COMFORTABLE WITH YOURSELF, so that SHE will feel comfortable AROUND YOU.

And, on the lameness . . . don't worry, we all started there. Even the PUG's.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:09 am 
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Last night I went the local Elks Club because they have Salsa dancing on weekends. Anyway Salsa is tonight, but I stay, have a As I am walking out the door her gay friend made some comment about me never coming back. I was trying to be half-joking, half-flirting. I am going back to apologize because I feel I may have come off as insulting. If not for Salsa I would not care, but, I since I am going back there I am going to be a man a about it and, depending on how she acts, I will apologize because I don't want women to see me as a dick. I guess I don't know how far to go before a girl sees you as annoying, piggish or both. I would like some feedback. Also, Is apologizing the right thing to do?
A HB's Gay friends can be a real cock bloc. I have known that realm all to well. If PUA have a name for that and a play, point me to the right place please.

Thanks
Sure, they are just like ANY other obstacle. You make friends with them . . . FIRST. Once you're in with the HB's friends, you're practically in with her already.


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Ok, first of all, is she's straight les, and not bi, there's ALMOST no chance you're gonna get anywhere. Also, from what you're saying, you're telling her that you are VERY, VERY needy. Sorry man, but that's how she's got to be taking it, which is a definite turn OFF.
Damn. I do sound needy. Now for the change in the game. She is a bi, but perfer to date hot girls over guy because they can satisfy her better. Now that I know I am needy towards her I am going to step back and perform the attraction switches. Hope it works, as I read somewhere that attraction is not a choice.
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Ok, on the texting, your cell company SHOULD have a part of the plan that gives you unlimited texting. Trust me, I've been there and done that with the high text bills myself, until I started "racking up" girls that I was texting with. I QUICKLY found out that those unlimited plans are worth it. Texting is GOOD. As far as getting her to call you. Well, if she stays on the phone with you like that, along with the other stuff you said, flaking and all, you most likely are in a type of LJBF zone of hers. The only real way to change that is to again, flip the attraction switches mentioned above. Also, don't contact her. Step back. Leave her alone for a while. When she finally does contact you, have something extremely interesting going on in your life. Better than usual. Be busy with it. Let her know you're busy, and let her know that there's something interesting you'd like to share with her soon. But, tell her that she has to meet with you for that.
I am going to look into the unlimited text plan, I do get texted alot and hesitant to text back to increase the cost. Now I can game frequently through text also. LJBF sucks, now that I know she is doing this (thanks for pointing it out) I am going to step away and game other girls. I know she will call back, as she likes to check on my progress in life (I think she does this to search for attraction), yet since I already have the feeling that we are friends I tends to share negative stories about my life that does not go according to plans...maybe this is a bad idea? Or are these kinds of stories only to guy friend?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:22 pm 
Right, do NOT share the negative stories. You need to share POSITIVE stories because they show more DHV for you. In fact, you need to only share stories that DHV you from now on, with any girl.


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There is a HB9 looking girl at my school. I see her alot because we have the same program but the thing is I don't know her I know her friend, Usually she and her friend walks and study togheter. So I pop upp and starts talking to her friend and so on. And she listens and then I put my attention on her and I make her laugh.

But I have never come to that stage were we greet and talk when I see her alone. So what do I do ?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:52 pm 
That's pretty easy. If she is "OK" with you when you're talking to her and her friend, she should be fine with you if it's just you and her. Just ask her something that's relevant to the class you share. Once she starts talking, go from there. Build rapport with her. Build attraction with her. Build comfort with her.

When you are talking to her and her friend, put most of your attention on her friend.


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Dear Trip,

Sometimes during medium to heavy kino with HB's I get aroused. To your knowledge, do they mind this? :oops:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:16 am 
To my knowledge, they don't mind it AT ALL.

I've had girls at clubs push their ass up against my crotch, feel me in there, aroused, and push up more because they like it. They even smile when they do it.

Normally the girls like this because they know you think they are sexy, w/o you even saying anything.


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What can you do if your neg's turn into insults, not actual ones, just the type that you would do with a friend, but the girl takes offense and you're not sure if it's affected the way they feel about you?

I wasn't straight out bagging her, just conversation/cocky funny.


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