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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:17 pm 
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So, frankly my day game is probably the worst part of my personal "skills assessment."

My weakness is approach anxiety to begin with, because I am a good "closer" once I get the ice broken in these "business dealings." (haha)...

Right now I don't have much time for socializing, so I started out with the online game, where I am a good writer and creative, and when I have a minute to think about what I am going to say it makes a huge difference. Also, interacting this way does make me think quicker on my feet in real life situations, so it is good practice to get your mind rolling...

I will probably be hitting the night life social scene here and there and looking for some wings here in my home town soon, and I have a lot more comfort in clubs and social scenes anyway.

My biggest weakness is that my AE takes over when I am just walking down the street and see a pretty girl.

I go out to lunch EVERY DAY in a good, busy part of town with lots and lots of girls walking around every day, so I would be foolish not to use this as an opportunity to improve my day game since it is available to me every day!

I find though that lately I am confined to trying to make eye contact and smile, and getting a bunch of bitchy, scowling glances back for the most part. Occasionally a girl opens me on a T-shirt I am wearing or whatever, but otherwise I don't really take the plunge.

I am just looking for some basic general purpose ideas to get the ball rolling on overcoming that approach anxiety out on the street. I should be able to score a phone number a day with as much time as I have to walk around out there during lunch.

I think improving my game there would be the biggest thing I could do to my game overall because it is the one I find the hardest and causes me the most anxiety.

If prepared with some routines I know — I am pretty good at winging it and thinking on the fly once the ice is broken and there is IOI.

Tips on body language, stance, and all that non-verbal stuff are good too.


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Use the situation to your advantage! If you see a HB walking with a coffee, simply ask her where she got it from.

You: Excuse me, but where did you get that coffee?
HB: Just around the corner at x
You: Ahhh, the reason I ask is you are the 2nd person I saw with a coffee and now I have a craving for one.
You: What would you reccommend?
HB: Blah, blah, blah...
You: Endless possibilities.....

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Works good except for when the cup has a giant Starbucks logo on it, then I just look dumb — which could work to my advantage anyway LOL.

Crummy weather we have today so the honeys will all be cooped up inside.

I think I just need to get loosened up enough to freestyle on the street while I am out for lunch and I'd be having a lot of fun every day. I think a few night games would be good for that purpose.

It has been a long time since I've done a serious sarge with some real wingmen (ie, not just friends of mine who aren't into gaming). I think that will help a lot because I find as my conscious efforts toward night game go a long way in my subconscious and I end up being more outgoing during the day as I make progress there.


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Notice the Starbucks logo and work it into the convo "Wow, Starbucks"! Where is that located near here? :)

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I'll help you out in 3 words.
Get a pen and paper ready because this is going to be intense.



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JUST DO IT.

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LOL — thanks.

Will do when the sun comes back out and the girl's clothing becomes skimpy again.


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Today gave me the perfect example of what is wrong with my day game.

My mind works too slowly when I am not in frame like I would be if it were a night hunt.

So today, 2 girls are standing on the corner (HB8 / HB7) handing out free samples of "5hr Energy" shots to people as they walk by. I am already not in frame after having 5 minutes from getting out of bed to being in my truck headed for work because I had to beat the tow truck that was coming to tow me away (they are paving my street today).

SO… When the girl hands me one I just kinda do the whole "talk to the hand" thing and keep walking…

THEN — not even 7 seconds later I figure out what I WOULD HAVE SAID to them had my mind been working fast enough…

ME: "Um… I don't know, I really need about 7 hours of energy today, do you have anything for that?"

HB: whatever…

ME: "Yeah, you know, you really aren't selling me on this. You don't look very energetic yourself so what makes you think people are going to want to buy this crap if the spokeswoman doesn't even have any energy?"

Then take it from there. I know if I had done that I'd be holding some new digits in my black book right now.

My biggest problem is the OPENER, the very first thing to say. Once I get that out of the way I flow pretty naturally. Of course I make mistakes here and there but my opening anxiety and lack of brain quickness seems to be my biggest trip up with day game. At night I can use crutches to get over it, but in the day I can't do squat.

I was reading the Apocalypse Opener and thought that was pretty funny. A good way to grow some balls. At night I could do that with no problem.

Today, I saw the absolute perfect opportunity to try it out on this HB9 who was all alone getting up from an outdoor table, stretching out and looking very scantily and like someone who would respond to such an opener.

I looked down at the shoes I am wearing today and my wrinkled ass shirt, also remembering what I looked like in the mirror before going out to lunch and said NO F-ING WAY I'd do that today LMFAO.

But any ideas on how to get over the brain response time being too slow — ie. thinking of the right thing to say about 5 - 10 seconds too late to use — would be appreciated.


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Perfect canned opener "Hi"

Bad shoes and wrinkled shirt!!! You show a lot of confidence if you had made the approach looking like that...Worst case you would not get the # from the girl who you already don't have the # of!!!!

Push through it...Just like night/club game it takes practice. Day game is actually easier because HB's are less defensive during the day (Typically).

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Yeah, the whole dressed like shit and looking like shit was more of my own problem -- inner game. Sometimes knowing I look good that day gives me a lot more confidence, but I just spent the last few weeks forcing myself to get girls interested in me while rocking my playoff beard.

I didn't shave AT ALL for a couple weeks until my team got knocked out and I finally shaved. Looking like the guy who wore the T-shirt to go out to the Vegas Night Clubs in "The Hangover" really did not have a negative effect and I saw it as a personal challenge to basically ignore the fact I look borderline homeless and just be myself and see how they react. I didn't do bad at all, but I won't be rockin a beard again until next season. I hate facial hair but playoff beards are funny.

Now back to yesterday, even though I looked like total shit, this HB9 got on the elevator at work with me as we were leaving and was giving me mad IOI and I opened up a conversation with her about work and it turned into her walking with me all the way to the parking lot, and where we part ways she kept me there to talk for a minute. I should have taken that opportunity to get her to go out to lunch with me or something low key but I didn't.

I don't know if it is the whole "don't dip in the company pool" bit of advice, or just fear that kept me from pulling the trigger or a combination of both.

I am fresh out the gate picking back up the study of the PUA sciences after almost 3 years of a LTR so the fact I am making measurable progress in a span of less than a month and very little time investment makes me feel good.

I am going out on a solo night sarge this weekend at a very popular event that should be crawling with females of the type I enjoy meeting. That is going to do a ton to loosen me up for my future day game, I can already tell. I will probably have a bit of an entourage with me if I go to this event, or will surely see people I know everywhere so it will be a great start for getting back into some night game.


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I dunno. I find if you look bummish but just naturally good looking, then you can pull off day game. But you can sort of come off sort of creeping approaching looking scruffy.


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Agreed. I would not dress like that guy in the Hangover and go out to the clubs or any night time sarge for sure, but then again if your game is tight then you can get away with anything.

Today's pickins' were quite slim. I ended up being on the wrong side of the street for both of the 2 sets that I saw which were worth hitting up.

There was not a single girl to open up this dreary day, but some girl, not really even a 5 opened ME up as I walked past, stopped cold, turned around and asked me if I knew where the library was.

I didn't have the problem with reaction time like I did yesterday because I immediately thought to say back to her "Why? You don't look like the type of girl who reads books..." but she was rather doggish and unkept so I just pointed out where it was and kept going on my way.

However, after reading "David Shade's Eye Contact experiment" --

http://puarticles.blogspot.com/2008/01/ ... iment.html

I have done this on many occasions and quite frankly the girls where I live are fucking COLD and very bitchy when it comes to day game and even making eye contact.

I am going to play the eye contact experiment over the next few weeks and just see what kind of reactions I get (hold 30 ft out, stare, do not smile until she does, or say hello unless she does).

Just today I have gotten more pissed off, cold, go fuck yourself stares or girls just refusing to look in my direction than I expected. But I have noticed this many times when I did the same expirment myself years ago (without really reading other people's thoughts on it).

I think a lot of people here complain about how hostile the women are towards men compared to many other cities. And I can't figure out if that is really true because I sense it too when I travel. I have much less AE when I am somewhere else and the girls always seem much more approachable in other places. I just wonder if it is because my state is elevated when I am traveling or if there really is merit to the fact women are bitchier and colder in some parts of the country compared to others.


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Honestly, just keep at it. The more you learn to talk to random people, the better you get.

If you're getting really cold stares or looks, theres probably something straing about you at first glance? I believe people are not generally assholes.

Stare in the mirror before you go out but also it could be your demeanour. You could look scruffy but if you look like a guy whos generally happy or a guy that would be a awesome guy to chill with, people shouldn't be hostile to you.

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"Hostile" may be a bit of a stretch. And today it is shitty outside so that didn't help.

I agree that I'll warm up to everything in a few weeks. It doesn't take me long to really hit my stride once I get going. I am actually shocked at myself for what I have accomplished since I broke up with my GF, and it hasn't been long at all.

I was the type that used to sulk when a relationship ended and there is this whole traditional "mounring period" that most normal people go through etc., but I found a number of years ago — WAY before I even knew what a PUA was — that the best way to get over it was to get RIGHT UP on my feet and IMMEDIATELY go out and start meeting women, like literally THAT DAY.

That is what I have done this time, and instead of being negatively focused on the end of my relationship and feeling worthless or inadequate I have been focused on how bad that relationship really sucked, the reasons we were not good for each other, the things she did to ME which I hated about her (even though she was the one who left), and looking at it as an opportunity to meet a woman (or two, or more) that I am happy to be with. It is a MUCH MUCH better mindset to be in than sulking around feeling like shit about yourself.

Granted there are times when I mourn the loss of that relationship because it is so fresh, and we have a child together which doesn't help, but getting off my ass and meeting new women has done a lot to keep that under wraps.

So, in the wise words of Chris Rock — "New pussy ALWAYS clears your mind..."

But yeah... "New pussy can't cook!"


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try this speed technique

you see this hot girl walking,roll up on her and..

me:hi,can i tell you something real quick
her:yeah
me:i just literaly saw you walking and i just had to say hi,because you are so gorgeous/sexy/stunning
her:oh thank you(smile)
me:you probaly in a hurry huh..
her:yeah kind off
me:yeah me too,so i can't have a real good conversation with you in the middle of the street right now,but never too worry because i always can give you a call(grab your phone out of your pocket),whats your number?......BAM number!


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For day game, I suggest "half negging openers" or situational openers


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