ok well me and this girl went on a date to a festival, i was supposed to come with my friend but he lagged it and so i ended up spending the date with the girl and her friend. the two of them left early, i dont know if it was because her friend didnt feel ok as a third wheel or if the girl just decided she didnt like me. I waited about 3 days and so im wondering what i should text? i was thinking along the lines of:

me: so im curious, how are you planning on makeing it up to me for ditching

her: yada yada yada

or does this sound a little jerkish or like i took it personally? i feel as though i should say something so that i show her i wont let her just leave me after she arranged that date with me and she should own up for her actions. what do you guys think, thanks. oh and after that day she did send an appologie over the text but is that enouph? and should i just give her a call? thanks.

I've had the same thing happen to me, if a girl ditches you it means she found you boring or she was not comfortable with you or both. The fact that she brought her friend along means she was not comfortable with you alone. If that's the case I usually don't even talk to the girl again, if she likes you enough she will initiate another meetup. The fact that she sent an apology means she feels in control, and feels bad for you. You want it the other way around you want to feel bad for the girl because she missed out on an evening of hanging out with you. If you really have to text her, say something about how much fun you had after she left. I myself do not like texting as I find it helps you get friend zoned real fast from the lack of mediums of which you can create sexual escalation. This might re-spark the idea that you are fun, and make her intrigued into how you had so much fun without her.

good advice, whats the longest you would go without texting though

I would wait a week, and then see how you feel. Right now you cannot stop thinking about her am I right? You just want to text her and for her to respond so that you know she is thinking about you. If you do this she will be thinking of you as a friend, which only makes matters worse. If a situation arises that allows you to talk to her then you can text her. Say for example she comments on one of your photos on facebook. I personally would not text her back, but give it a week and if you still really have feelings for her send her a blank text. If she replies saying you sent a blank text, you say "what? blank text? you don't have to make up stories to talk to me". Credit goes to some guy on the forum for that one!

I think that's good neg her, you are demonstrating higher social value. Being a jerk is not bad it depends on the girl. I spent a couple of week building up someone with my NLP knowledge and then she just started pulling the I may want my ex back. So I just started slamming her and missing compliments with slams. She said I can be a bitch and I said you are right, you are self centered bitch and she said thanks.
The one whom cares less wins generally. You need to demonstrate you are confident and have high social value. Tell her something like you know you are cute but rude so I am willing to give you another chance. That will throw her off. Remember relationships are about whose in control.

I think that blank text is awesome it creates mystery and screws with here mind a bit, that's good.

i thank you for your reply danielsaun, but im going to have to dissagree with

["Being a jerk is not bad it depends on the girl. I spent a couple of week building up someone with my NLP knowledge and then she just started pulling the I may want my ex back. So I just started slamming her and missing compliments with slams. She said I can be a bitch and I said you are right, you are self centered bitch and she said thanks."]

not to say your methods dont work, but that i believe positive reinforcement works better and faster aswell as leaves her a better person in the end which is one of the main goals of pick up. I thank you recast for your advice on the not texting and if i had to, make it lean toward me haveing fun so she doesnt feel sorry for me, you were right that i had butterflies before texting her which is a big problem in my game, it seems no matter how many girls i pull i always retain some attachment to them, i need to learn to overcome this so my game can improve ten fold. i ended up texting her

me: hay you missed out, when you left early me and some friends got to kiss a sea lion haha we had alot of fun, but i know you were saveing that kiss for me ;p anyway i feel as though we could make a better connection one on one so well do that next time ...............mabey sometime after finals

her: ok just let me know

i dont know if shes still interested but i feel you were right i should have just said nothing and let her reply but i didnt check this in time oh well whatever happens happens, next time though, thanks

Well the happy faces are a good sign, and how fast did she reply? I would say make your texts a bit shorter, but you took a risk and it seems to have payed off. You are in control now as she said let me know, meaning you hold some of the power. I would say when you plan the date call her, as that creates a more powerful connection, and reduces the chance that she will bail as you have reinforced what you are doing verbally and via text.

Girls love honesty, and quite frankly that's sometimes why they like jerks because jerks are in a sense honest about how they see you as a person. It may in the end leave them a better person because you are telling them where they go wrong, just in a very blunt way. The fact that you were upfront and concise in the text portrayed you as confident and alpha so be sure to reflect that when you meet her. Do not hold back go all out on the escalation, or else you will be friend zoned.

um i personally dont like to invest to much into smileys that girls do, alot of time they just post thoughs to be friendly, i think your right about the gaining controle back though, thanks for pointing that out. im pretty good with escilation, but being that they left early on the first date would you say that that killed alot of the intrest being that i wasnt able to kino much, ive never had this happen before. its a shame your in canada i feel as though we are on almost the same level of pu or to clerify our styles seem simular. if your ever in california hit me up and well go sarge together. thanks

I may have changed my opinion after reading about the straw man on this forum, but it still stands I actually got respect when I starting dishing it back her way instead of being the AFC pussy and just listening to her crap. It's probably not going anywhere but I figure she is a good experiment to work on my game.

no theres nothing wrong with not takeing her crap and dishing her shit back at her, infact that is what your supposed to do, what im telling you is that its ok to be nice to her as long as your using it in a rewarding way. you have to learn the lines that sepperate jerk from not takeing her bs and between nice guy and pushover

heres a video by kezia that does a good job at showing the differance between them.

http://youtu.be/xY3yC4Z8sqE

Good vid thanks for posting.

Dude, thanks for this whole thread, and especially this part.

I am in a similar situation and it's all text game stuff where I'm not sure if she still likes me. I think I really pissed her off. I went overboard and wasn't quite nice enough when I should have rewarded her. I went total amog. It was meant to be sarcastic and flirty, but my humor doesn't translate well into text format. I guess I need to learn when to neg and when not to neg.

At the moment I'm trying to figure out if I should wait it out a week or something before re-initiating contact, or if I should take a risk with a blank text or something else. How do you recover from needlessly pissing a woman off. Is it time to go afc and kiss ass? Nobody really talks about this. They just say leave her, or forget about her. If I lose her, whatever I've got 5 other girls I'm gaming, but I really like this one. HB9 blonde rocker chick bartender with huge tits and great legs. If she was Asian I would be smitten.

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What I usually do if I know I have pissed her off is send her a random text. For example I got this one girl incredible pissed off by guessing stuff wrong about her. I waited a few days then sent a text to her saying "Dude you are not going to believe what happened last night". When she replies say 'opps wrong person". This will create intrigue, maintain you with the power, and hopefully her intrigue overcomes that fact that she is pissed off. It worked for me, I hope it works for you.

Just so you all know I hate texting because there is too many meanings and it is too easy to loose control. Girls are masters of expressing themselves through language whereas men tend to be more scientific minded and straight to the point, thus making text game too unpredictable and in women's favor.

ok well for future refrences, if you get into this situation again, what i do turns things around so fast. when you sense that shes getting pissed off and gives you some attitude, just respond with there we go thats what i was looking for, some attitude.. i like that i dont like thoughs passive girls, give me a real firey woman anyday. totaly takes the wind out of her sails and shifts power fast. in your situation however, because you didnt say anything at the time its more of a matter of how you let it affect you. i would say show her that your almost humered by her being mad at you, say i thought you were a person that could take a joke, oh well but be unapolagetic. your a good guy but why should you be sorry for your observations, if your trying to re-establish a connection however, realise shes going to read the text nomatter what so dont worry about her getting the message and if she doesnt reply, you know she isnt interested but go on with your game as if nothing was differnt, but make your next text really REALLY interesting so you can get a reply, and if your reply happens to be negative even better. when im gameing a girl my favorit responses come negative, im always trying to find something i can work with, that being a bitch shield, a connection like similar intrest, something to neg any kind of response then its you that can turn it into something, a negative response is better than no response. hope this helps.

oh and recast i used to think like that to but now my text game has trmendously improved, text game can actually be quite interesting because it is harder than real life gameing in that its differant and no keno, but it gives oppertunities that come easier than in real life, you want to be as clear as possible but because your message isnt always clear it gives you the oppertunity to take her response a positive way which is a dhv