I'm just very curious and kinda thinking about hiring one out. If I gamed her well enough I could get myself a fuck buddy without ever needing to pay her. Anyone done this?

Are there not any other girls that you don't have to hire?

And escorts are about they're money, if you can't score a regular girl there is no way you can score an escort.

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Yeah of course but these girls are smoking hot. It would be great to get one of them as a fuck buddy.

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yes, I was smooth as shit, it cost me $200

I would not recommend paying for a prostitute to any man looking to improve his lifestyle or learn how to pick up women. These ladies are not women. They are cheap sluts, who will yield to the lowest common denominator to make money.

They basically manipulate men for a living, and probably hate men. If it is considered bad game to buy a drink for a girl, why would it be ok to pay hundreds to sleep with them. I mean buying a prostitute goes against everything trying to be taught on this forum.

Prostitution will kill your game. Something akin to a porn addiction, but even more detrimental and costly.

I used to use prostitutes frequently. I always felt horrible about myself afterwards. Whores are bad people. They use you for money. As well, the sex is never very good, they often just want to get it over with as fast as possible. A man who pays for sex, is admitting to himself he has no other options.

Have some pride in yourself.

This is the problem with the male ego and society. This very post highlights why women have ASD - because "men" like FirstBase attribute a girl that is comfortable in her sexuality as a sort of demon prospect of "getting money and exploiting to the lowest common denominator"

I hate to break it to you newbie, and I hope you gain more wisdom as you game - but most girls get into relationships DUE to the exploit trade-off. Most men get with women for emotions that make them feel good and exploit female affection. You are no different.

To call escorts and prostitutes "sluts" is not only idiotic but rather not even original. What really defines the woman that trades sex from money than from a woman that trades her affection for marriage or exploitation of mutual value? Why are you no less of a slut? For all we know, you as a man fit the definition much better.

They hate men for a living? Where are you getting all this nonsense bullshit from exactly? I mean half of your post is SEVERELY depreciated in terms of intellect. Oh wow...I did not even realize you actually paid for prostitutes yourself...sounded like a bad first hand account.

Listen - whatever happened to you or your AFCism, keep it out of the forums.

As for the OP the FirstBase person makes SOME points in TRANSLATION of his highly deluded concept: whores like money. This is not to say these girls are not people, but they maintain extremely high standards for a man's economic worth if you are looking for a relationship.

Also...contrary to myth, these girls don't have time for "fuck buddys" and I doubt they will certainly keep you as one. After all, what's your offer in return?

I notice you comment on a lot of peoples posts. You seem to think very highly of yourself. You've been on this forum for 3 weeks, replying to any and every post. Your posts are usually sarcastic, uninformative, and highly critical.

I simply wrote that last response to advise men on this forum, to reconsider paying for hookers. I realize that maybe this thread, was not the best one to give that advice. However, I was just trying to advise guys that using prostitutes can have a very negative impact on a guys ego, progress in Pick Up, and his wallet.As a recovering AFC, I use this forum to gain insight into my problems, and share my experiences. As a newbie when it comes to game, I read these forums for insight, as I do not have much advice to give. However as a very experienced AFC, I think my advice could be useful. One problem that I had in the past has been addiction to porn. Occasionally when porn did not suffice, I looked up prostitutes. Happened about 5 times.

First of all, you referred to me as a "man". I am a MAN, do not ever call me a "man". You should not insult men in this forum, and that is certainly an insult. Also don't call me a newbie like its an insult. I admit that I'm a newbie, whereas you don't.

I never demonized women for being comfortable with their sexuality. I never said all women will yield to the lowest common denominator to exploit men for money. I said Prostitutes do. Maybe my language was a little harsh. You are right that me calling them cheap sluts makes me sound bitter and judgemental. But why are you putting in so much effort to defend these whores, and put me down at the same time.

As for my AFCism. I will discuss it in these forums. I will try to use my experience as an AFC to provide advice for other recovering AFCs. As I progress over the next months and years, I will reflect on my past AFCness, and hope that I can inspire more men to improve their game.

Then you say that my comments are likely due to bad first hand accounts with prostitutes. They always treated me nicely. I never had a bad experience with them. However I felt bad about myself afterwards. This was the advice I was trying to leave behind. If a man has AA, oneitis, trouble escalating, etc. Being with a prostitute will not help him out. You seem to think I wrote that response because I hate prostitutes. I don't. I hated myself for paying for them.

You seem to be defending the idea of guys paying for sex. This entire forum is devoted to learning, improving, and providing support for PUA. You seem to be the only guy on this forum who disagrees. As a newbie, I have no reputation points on this site. Captain, you gave me a bad reputation. I hope other guys take away your reputation for giving bad advice, commenting before you even read my entire post, and being an asshole.

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Honestly, bitch elsewhere. Any way you spin it - to call prostitutes sluts just speaks highly of your general bearing towards the retarded fashion. Lastly I can care less for what you think about my previous posts, I'm glad you got into reading them all... the real problem comes with your reading comprehension skills (hint: you have none) if you believe they are all sarcastic...sorry if your ass is ripely sore about what I said about you and called you for what you are: a prostitute hating utterly AFC shit.

But here you are completely degrading prostitutes but then hrmm...suddenly saying you had amazing experiences with them? But then again you felt like shit for using them and yet you refer to them as sluts and not people? Get your shit straight.

I'm not advocating paying for hookers, just saying that you as a moron are the highly stereotypical example of the AFCism most guys have set for themselves. If you view escorts, etc as 'sluts' and cheaply conniving women to the "lowest denominator" you are directly denigrating them by not considering them as people....keep in mind the ORIGINAL topic: HOW TO GAME ESCORTS (who actually can be gamed. I myself have gamed escorts). You also make assumptions that they hate men, they will do anything to betray men...use them, manipulate them...try reading back your own shit and seeing what you sound like: someone who has a serious issue with prostitutes, otherwise HOW are you basing any of the shit you say?

Usually it also speaks rather ironically you used prostitutes for sex but at the same time are painting them as an object of disgust yourself. I wonder what psychological trauma got you into putting that out there.

Spin it either way, but you still look like a retard.

i second that.

dude, by saying prostitutes are not women and the like, you are proving that you know nothing about women at all.

1. almost any woman will take advantage and use a man for money, if she does not respect him.

2. you think buying a girl drinks at the bar and getting no action is better? and how many girls do that? so then they are also not women to you, i suppose?

3. saying prostitutes are sluts and not people reaks of AFC, and having that sort of attitude generally towards any kind of woman should get you banned from PUA material at all. go see a therapist dude, i think that might help you "recover" more.

4. don't bother answering my post, i don't feed trolls. i just put this out there for everyone else that may not have met with hookers/escorts before and might listen to your crap!

don't listen to all the b.s. man. of course you can game an escort.

remember, we are talking about high-end escorts, not your average dazed and confused hooker. that means they have some class (often more education and class than most women) and that means they have men courting them all over. remember, a lot of these girls end up marrying one of their clients and end up very rich usually. in other words, these are the REAL high maintanance women, and they know what they are looking for.

on a side note, some of the coolest girls i know are hookers/escorts.

here is what you do:

1. you pay her. you have to pay her for a fuck or forget it. i've seen numerous men try to game escorts without paying and 100% fail. that comes off as very cheap to them.

2. fuck her well. don't just fuck her, TALK TO HER (after the fuck, not BEFORE, or she will think you're just shy). make sure you look deep into her eyes while fucking her. make sure she enjoys it and feels you are treating her as a person, not a piece of ass.

3. be nice to her and compliment her on something else other than her looks.

4. if she is interested, she will say something like, "are you often here (city, country, whatever). you say "no". you tell her that if she wants to see you again, to give you her private nr. and if you drop by her (city, country, whatever - many of them are from out of town), you will give her a ring and you meet up for drinks. if she says "yes", you game her like you would any other girl.

note: make sure the number is not her "working" number. duh!

got tons of nr.s from escorts from all around the world. rule here is simple: if she gives you her private nr. email whatever, she is interested in you. make sure you call or write immediately, or she will forget who you are, remember these girls get a lot of traffic.


@captain jack, don't feed the trolls. just some wanker who is pissed he can only get girls for cash.

I once gamed a girl on-line who turned out to be an escorte. I told her I wouldn't pay, and she agreed to meet me anyway.

When I got to her place, she didn't open and didn't answer her phone. She later texted me and apologized saying that her ex-bf came by and caused a lot of drama (he still had her key), and that she really wanted me to fuck her.
I didn't follow up, and I have no more contact with her.

When I think about it, screwing an escorte without paying for it would probably boost my already obnoxious ego to a level where I would be impossible to be around. So in a sense it all worked out for the best, I guess.

On the other hand I'm hoping to nail a tall, slim brunette with loooong hair and big boobs this weekend. Wish me luck!

You cannot game a prostitute, the prostitute will game you. Always