Hi lads, I have set up a lair and PMed a few of you.

This lair is going to get big.

There is already a lair set up by guys who call themselves Practise Ireland. These lads take it far too seriously and want you to jump through hoops to join, asking all kinds of questions and wanting you to "prove" you are good enough. In this lair, ALL ARE WELCOME!!!

PM me and become a member. This lair needs more and more members and is going to be the premier lair in Ireland so join now and get started.

Lets get this party started lads!

PM ME FOR DETAILS!

Paddy

Awesome!

Im in! Ive thrown you a PM

Hi all,

I am looking for wings in Dublin, preferably for Daygame, all level welcome.

In total I already got around 10 phone numbers, but my approach anxiety is considerably slowing my progression. I need motivation.

Let me know if you are interested even just for one session.

I am trying to gather other people from Dublin.

See ya


Smoothey
Level: 6/10

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Smoothie
Dublin Pick Up Student
Level: 6/10

Could I get a PM about this Lair? Mostly into solo daygame (don't mind helping anyone), but want to give night game a go. Literally haven't got a clue how to do it in a club. I've no problem being social, gaining social proof, but I've never been able to consistently escalate when sober. Never tried structured game.

ok lads, well i have sent you all links to the board. at the moment there is no real activity on there but its just starting and you should sign up and maybe introduce yourself and start posting because we can make it a decent community if we make the effort. if anyone else wants the link, please post in the thread guys and i will PM. Its a shame that there is no real community here and we have to work together to build it but at least we have a forum now that we can post on.

I have also got in touch with the guys who post lair lists online and asked them to add our board to the list so hopefully we can get more and more members and keep growing

this is now the biggest lair in ireland,

pm me for details on how to join

A lair is not a forum

Not that I wanna create a flame but let's be honest here you didnt create a lair you only created yet another forum like there arent enough of them out there.

Our group is different not because makes you go through hoops to join but because we make sure all the people in the group knows each other personally.
There is no need to yet another forum where people argue, fight and flames and they dont even know each other.

Is it a too hard process to ask someone that wants to join the lair to come to out Sunday meeting and introduce himself? Is that a hoop?

We meet regularly sarging 3/4 times a week and we do a social gathering every Sunday to discuss about the game, sticking points, relationships, personal development and just social hang out among lads.

We have no commercial interest unlike other groups: we dont market bootcamps or seminar nor any other products; we do not get any advertising.

It is false that we dont welcome people based on their skill levels. We have not accepted people based solely on thier social behaviour. The Dublin community is full of weirdos, nut cases and fruit cases we just dont want to deal with them.

The result is a drama free group of people that are dedicated to their personal development including the important social skill to convey their better selves to women.

If people want to get "judged" on if they are "good enough" to get in to your group then that's ok. A lot of guys are not comfortable with other people judging them like that. It seems like a nerdy geeky environment in which this whole thing is taken way too seriously. There are close to 60 members on our lair and we are different ages, backgrounds and styles of game so there is a wing for everyone. Our group is open to all and we are in contact with good PUAs over in London and the US who are going to be coming over to give talks in Dublin for free so everyone should join our lair if they want to get free talks from the likes of RSD, Love Systems, Daygame.com, Mystery, Beckster etc. I am personally in touch with Tyler from RSD and he has expressed interest in coming over to Dublin in July so I am trying to finalise that at the moment. PM me for details!

Paddy1000 you must be very desperate to get members if your slandering another lair. Just because it doesn't suit you to get to know other members doesn't necessary mean you speak fro the whole community.

For the rest of you newbies I can say for a fact that i have been on the irish PUA scene longer than the average irish PUA. I have lived through and seen 3 irish open forums die.

You may wonder why we have our meeting and I'll write a brief note on this here to clarify: An open forum has the positives of beeing easy to access and more members. ironically those are also the negatives. The easy access allows ANYONE to acess your information, hack your account and if they are really in for you post your details, FR/LR, and slander your family, friends, dates, gfs etc on a site like PUA HATE. Large amounts of people on a forum means you don't know all of them and your sarging with strangers who ultimately know nothing about you don't consider you a friend, or care. There is the odd chance you may meet a compatible wing from the start but i doubt it. THE REASON WHY we have our criteria for entry is not to judge you but to make it easier for you to feel part of the gang without undue pressure. The face to face meeting guarantees that you know the other members and don't have any Ghosts or creepers ready to expose your information. AND THE BEST PART IS: you don't have to pay us to be able to hang out with us. Talk to any of our members and you will hear a different story than the commercial propaganda paddy1000 is trying to sell you. I doubt Mystery and the rest apart from beckster and Kezia will turn up. Remember your beeing buisness to them! SO WOULDN'T YOU rather be protected, safe and sarge with people you know who do more than just game together...

Your level of skill is not important to us when you join us. we know anyone can get good with proper practice! Its the actual person we want to get to know. if you don't belive us your free to check out the other forums. The reason Practie Ireland is beeing attacked by people like PADDY1000 is because they feel threatened by us. As long as PRACTICE has been around we have never slandered or flamed any other forum. We are not interested in competeing for you money! We are not interested in beeing the greatest or biggest forum. We are not interested in any War with any other forum! The only thing we are interested in is keeping a safe and good environment for our members to develope their game without beiing dragged into the battlefield that is the irish pick up community! Come to our meetings to see for yourself and YOU CAN MAKE UP YOUR OWN OPINION about us. DON'T LET ANYBODY MAKE YOUR OPINION FOR YOU!

And a last note to PADDY1000: You should get to know us before YOU JUDGE US AND SLANDER US!

PEACE OUT

Hey Paddy,

Respect due for setting up the forum. I've joined it and some interesting debate going on.

I just want to take issue with what you said about Practise Ireland. I'm a member of the group since December and have got to know the main guys well since then. They don't worry about how "good" at game a new member is, more that they will be friendly and sociable. This is important as it therefore means the group is a friendly and sociable group. I particularly enjoy the face-to-face meetups on a Sunday evening. PI (Practise Ireland) is a very welcoming and supportive group, in my experience.

Anyway, I wish you all the best with the new forum and see you on there or here

BC

As you can see we at practice ireland don't mind our members beiing active in other forums. You can join as many as you want and still be part of practice. With that we wish paddy1000 best of luck with his forum.

lol take it easy man

I was just responding to the post by Spirit who was saying we don't have a lair just a forum which isn't true. We have a community. Spirit felt the need to come into this thread about this particular lair and make his comments.

I have been in the Irish scene since way back in 2004 so I've seen lots of lairs and people come and go myself. I'm not trying to sell anything, I actually have a good job and no interest in making anything from anything PU related. We have nearly 60 members and growing and the PUA companies see potential customers so they will give free talks to try to drum up interest. If Mystery or Tyler was to come over or any of the daygame.com guys or anyone in London, it would be a talk open to everyone of course, not just people in this lair. I'm in touch with some of them and it's a matter of time before they come over. I have no commercial interest at all and I would just love to get those guys over giving free talks, which used to happen in the old lairs if you recall.

I have nothing against your group but the problem with it is simply that I and others are not comfortable being "judged" by people to join a group. It's that simple really. No offence at all is meant but the open lair I feel is a great thing. There is enough room for both. It's not a competition! You can all join the open lair and I hope you do. I know some are members already!

PS, you might think you are safe by "screening" people, but a good reporter or puahater could quite easily come to a meeting and appear to be nice and genuine and gain access and then the rest is history. So be careful with private info on the internet.

Hey mate, that's cool and it sounds good. As I said, I have nothing against it at all. I did try to join before I set up the lair and heard nothing for a week then got one email where i was bombarded with questions about what I could bring to the lair, why i wanted to join etc. Maybe they don't do that now. I just didnt want to jump through the hoops is all and many others agree with me which is why the lair I set up exploded with activity and members immediately.

Anyway, anyone who wants to join the lair, PM me for details.

In your First post you are already SLANDERING and JUDGING us. Im curious as to why you chose us and not any of the other existing forums? dude you keep saying that we judge people on their game even though i have explained why its not true and also why we have the meetings. Also in a PM you tell me we are geeky for trying to provide security. And as for the different gurus wanting to come over and give ''free'' bootcamps i have been approached myself by some of them and I can promise you you'll get nothing free out of it! Maybe when the community was young they used to do free bootcamps but i doubt they will do it now. The irish community is not as big as the other worldwide scenes and so they will need most of you to make a profit, especially if they are flying in from north america!
In The oldest forum i was in I found there was shitstirring goiing on because different companies had made it their virtual battleground.
As for the creepers or ghosts: if you remember in the last big irish forum there was a guy who attacked a member by sharing his stuff on PUAHATE and was never caught because nobody had seen his face or know who he was. This person can easily pop up in YOUR FORUM.
At least with our way we can limit that down and we can find out who he is and expose him so that all of YOUR LAIRS can identify him. THE FACT is That PRACTICE has no INTERNAL FLAME!

I dunno about you but to me it sounds like our way is working and If you think our lair is much smaller than yours we are only 10 members short of your numbers and we would if we were an open forum already have 300-400 members.
Take responsibility for what you are saying.
Now i apologize if i sound like im out to flame you. im not. I don't know you personally and i have no beef with you ( as far as i can tell).
Lets Keep the peace. im sure both of our forums can gain a lot of knowledge and friendship with each other. If you need anything you can always ask us.

PEACE

Please stop posting in the this thread, which is about the lair that I set up which is open to all members.

I'm personally in touch with good PUAs (Tyler in particular who I know quite well) who want to come over and give FREE TALKS, not free bootcamps. You don't seem to have understood the difference. In fact, you seem to not have grasped quite a few things I said.

When I tried to join your group I was asked "what can you bring to the lair", "how did you find the lair" "why do you want to join", among other things. That to me is being judged before I can join. To me that is taking things too seriously and comes across as a geekly club of guys judging whether I am good enough to get in. No thanks. You feel that it's different. Fair enough we disagree. We have a bigger and better lair now anyway. Anyway, whatever. We have already argued about it. Lets end the discussion now. You have no reason to reply as we have said it all already so start a new thread about your lair if you want to do so but leave this thread alone as I have no interest in arguing back and forth.