Seems that every situation ends the same. I chat up an hb for a while usually for a few days (9-10 brief banter emails). Build humorous/playful report most of the time. Then when I feel its time to escalate things and ask for the number or offer mine, they either stop messaging or say I'm sorry I don't feel comfortable.

Me "So any interesting plans for the weekend"

HB None yet.

ME We should grab some drinks or something.

HB ....
or
sorry
or
Is this you trying to get my number? lol


I've tried just giving my number... as Gambler recommends but that results in idle usage at the hands of the opposite party.

This girl still messages me like we will eventually have drinks when she has time and its been a month! lol

Any suggestions?

Be more creative with you invites to meet up. "Grab drinks or something" is predictable and has a sleazy feel to it. Be more specific and creative.

Ex:

"I'm going to check out the new Andy Warhol exhibit at blah-blah museum this Sunday at 2:00. Come with."

Original, specific, and instructional. Don't ask, insist. Then the number will naturally follow.

Never say or something.

Be specific. Be decisive.

He's right. You are being too vague. You ask a girl out vaguely and she is going to give you a vague answer.

This raises an interesting point. I could have quite possibly blown it with the last 12 hb's (some in person and some online) simply because I wasn't specific enough with planning. That hurts. There could be other factors, but that's something that all the situations have in common.

It's interesting because many of the girls will continue to engage me even after they said no to giving out there number or to making plans.

I mean are you guys already planning the next date in detail shortly after the first one?

I plan it [b]during[/b] the first one.

As you progress in the game, you'll find that time-management and efficient planning become paramount. When you hit a hot streak and start booking your schedule, you'll find it overwhelming. You couldn't ask for a better problem lol.

Setting up a day three while on a day two is a pretty powerful tactic. It demonstrates that you're seemingly in it for the long haul. This is a proactive approach to destroying LMR.

Besides, it's much easier to make plans and then cancel them than it is to throw out a last-minute invite faced with rejection.

So your saying I should ask for the date before I ask for the number? This contradicts traditional game doesn't it?

Also, It seems a lot of the higher caliber ones expect you to maintain the conversation by yourself the whole time? Like to see how well you can entertain them?

So its difficult to build rapport quickly if they aren't using IM or if they are continuously giving you one word answers.

You're damn right it contradicts traditional game. It works. Try it yourself. Set up an intriguing day two and watch her hand you her number. When she agrees to the day two, it's only natural to have her number in case she gets lost or either of you are running late.

When I'm running a set, my goal is never to get the girl's number. My goal is spend time with her and close it out. Phones are just tools to bridge the gap between time spent together.

Getting one word replies out of girl is a completely different subject.

It's likely that your communication isn't dynamic enough and that you haven't built enough attraction.